Andi Dorfman & Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 - General Discussion

GuardianAngel wrote:

Steel2009 wrote:The more I think about it, there has to be a good reason for the unfollowing on twitter.  I agree it's strange but would love to hear some other theories besides Kacie vs. Andi or Murray Brothers fighting.  All we have to go by is SM habits and what we've seen on the show.  Lets not think the worst. This family is very close and have been thru a lot together.

From what I've seen on the show, Josh is the type of man who loves his family to death and is very protective of them.  He probably not let anything petty come between them. I think if he had an issue with Kacie, he would address directly with Aaron and Kacie.  We saw him on the show  address andrew directly in one episode to get Andrew's side of the story and move on from there..

I also believe if Josh did have problem with his family, Andi will do her best to help bring them together to work things out.  I know it would make her sad to see her man unhappy.  BTW: Josh does not look sad or unhappy in any of his recent pics..

It it possible??

-They've set up other private twitter accounts?  

-Is there a feature on twitter that blocks people from seeing who you follow?  

-Maybe they have accounts on another app...i.e snap chat and communicate that way?  Seems like Andi and Josh are really using twitter for business purposes and promoting etc... lately

Josh is very protective of his family, so I can see him unfollowing them to protect them from the SM crazies and negative comments.

Right now, it looks like Josh is only following his sister Steph.  I don't think that will change.  Maybe he wants to keep an eye on her since she's away in college.  

Any other theories besides family drama?

Bringing this forward, as it's an excellent post IMO!

Steel2009 wrote:The more I think about it, there has to be a good reason for the unfollowing on twitter.  I agree it's strange but would love to hear some other theories besides Kacie vs. Andi or Murray Brothers fighting.  All we have to go by is SM habits and what we've seen on the show.  Lets not think the worst. This family is very close and have been thru a lot together.

From what I've seen on the show, Josh is the type of man who loves his family to death and is very protective of them.  He probably not let anything petty come between them. I think if he had an issue with Kacie, he would address directly with Aaron and Kacie.  We saw him on the show  address andrew directly in one episode to get Andrew's side of the story and move on from there..

I also believe if Josh did have problem with his family, Andi will do her best to help bring them together to work things out.  I know it would make her sad to see her man unhappy.  BTW: Josh does not look sad or unhappy in any of his recent pics..

It it possible??

-They've set up other private twitter accounts?  

-Is there a feature on twitter that blocks people from seeing who you follow?  

-Maybe they have accounts on another app...i.e snap chat and communicate that way?  Seems like Andi and Josh are really using twitter for business purposes and promoting etc... lately

Josh is very protective of his family, so I can see him unfollowing them to protect them from the SM crazies and negative comments.

Right now, it looks like Josh is only following his sister Steph.  I don't think that will change.  Maybe he wants to keep an eye on her since she's away in college.  

Any other theories besides family drama?

GuardianAngel wrote:I suppose it all depends on personal opinions. They would all be concerns of mine, and I don't even know them. If it were my son, and I had that conversation with him, he wouldn't be too happy with me. I would voice my opinion, so he knew how I felt, but at the end of the day, wish him well and move on.

There are many accusations and judgements in all of the other general discussion threads as well. It's all part of speculating and discussing opinions.

Bet2Win wrote:Just caught up reading this thread and smgate.  If I were Josh's mother, there are several things that would cause me concern as his mother and I would discuss these things with him:

1.  The way Andi spoke to JPG after the FD.
2.  The way Andi spoke to Eric, and yelled at the rest of the guys.
3.  Sleeping with another man within a few days of getting engaged to my son.
4.  The hypocrisy she exhibited at the AFTR with Nick regarding what happens in the FS is private ~ she outed what happened in the FS with JPG.

If MM had this type of conversation with Josh, I could see it being problematic for Josh.

Steel2009 wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:

Steel2009 wrote:The more I think about it, there has to be a good reason for the unfollowing on twitter.  I agree it's strange but would love to hear some other theories besides Kacie vs. Andi or Murray Brothers fighting.  All we have to go by is SM habits and what we've seen on the show.  Lets not think the worst. This family is very close and have been thru a lot together.

From what I've seen on the show, Josh is the type of man who loves his family to death and is very protective of them.  He probably not let anything petty come between them. I think if he had an issue with Kacie, he would address directly with Aaron and Kacie.  We saw him on the show  address andrew directly in one episode to get Andrew's side of the story and move on from there..

I also believe if Josh did have problem with his family, Andi will do her best to help bring them together to work things out.  I know it would make her sad to see her man unhappy.  BTW: Josh does not look sad or unhappy in any of his recent pics..

It it possible??

-They've set up other private twitter accounts?  

-Is there a feature on twitter that blocks people from seeing who you follow?  

-Maybe they have accounts on another app...i.e snap chat and communicate that way?  Seems like Andi and Josh are really using twitter for business purposes and promoting etc... lately

Josh is very protective of his family, so I can see him unfollowing them to protect them from the SM crazies and negative comments.

Right now, it looks like Josh is only following his sister Steph.  I don't think that will change.  Maybe he wants to keep an eye on her since she's away in college.  

Any other theories besides family drama?

Bringing this forward, as it's an excellent post IMO!

Thanks GA!  Josh is a "grown ass man" . ...  and I don't think SM unfollowing is his style unless there's a good reason.  

I also believe there's a good chance that Andi and Kacie already met and possibly even hung out... Just because we don't have pics does not mean it never happened.  Maybe they are building their relationship off social media.  

-Remember Josh and Andi said they saw each other almost every day while the show was airing?  During that time, there are pics of Aaron in GA with Josh and I believe Kacie was visiting Aaron in ATL almost every other weekend.  Maybe the 4 of them also hung out..

-After Josh and Andi attended the PingPong4Purpose event in LA back in early Sept., there were at least 2 tweets ...stating they spotted Andi and Josh in Kansas City.  1 tweet said they actually saw Kacie and Andi at a bar.  We just never got pics from anyone.

Eagle Eye wrote:
Good question. And given that the whole reason Josh was on the show in the first place is that his mom "absolutely loved" Andi, I'm not sure Lauren would have much of a leg to stand on if she were suddenly to start expressing concerns about anything Andi said or did on JPG's season.

Alanna wrote:

Eagle Eye wrote:
Good question. And given that the whole reason Josh was on the show in the first place is that his mom "absolutely loved" Andi, I'm not sure Lauren would have much of a leg to stand on if she were suddenly to start expressing concerns about anything Andi said or did on JPG's season.

Yep, not to mention she posted all about Andi until the beginning of this month. So I don't think it has anything to do with the show.

She hasn't posted anything from last night which makes sense to me. If they don't publicly wish her a happy bday, I don't know why she should continue to publicly post pics of them. Obviously, no idea what's happening privately.

If there is drama, I think the person who is thanking her lucky stars for this must be Andi. No more sitting glazed over at dinner, listening to endless Chiefs talk, no more getting dragged to games, no more sharing Josh, and really, no more worrying if Josh is second fiddle. She and Josh are the belles of the ball for the Dorfmans and everyone can just fawn over him just like she thinks they should do. Sounds good to me! She must be secretly thrilled

Alanna wrote:
If there is drama, I think the person who is thanking her lucky stars for this must be Andi. No more sitting glazed over at dinner, listening to endless Chiefs talk, no more getting dragged to games, no more sharing Josh, and really, no more worrying if Josh is second fiddle. She and Josh are the belles of the ball for the Dorfmans and everyone can just fawn over him just like she thinks they should do. Sounds good to me! She must be secretly thrilled

lurker11 wrote:Do we remember when Josh tweeted something negative about the Chiefs and Aaron's potential there? Does anyone think Aaron asked him to cool it with social media and him for awhile?

Laudergirl wrote:

Bet2Win wrote:Just caught up reading this thread and smgate.  If I were Josh's mother, there are several things that would cause me concern as his mother and I would discuss these things with him:

1.  The way Andi spoke to JPG after the FD.
2.  The way Andi spoke to Eric, and yelled at the rest of the guys.
3.  Sleeping with another man within a few days of getting engaged to my son.
4.  The hypocrisy she exhibited at the AFTR with Nick regarding what happens in the FS is private ~ she outed what happened in the FS with JPG.

If MM had this type of conversation with Josh, I could see it being problematic for Josh.

Regarding #1 & #4: What hypocrisy? She didn't mention anything about whether she did or didn't have sex with JPG. Just the fact that she was hurt that he didn't ask her any questions or try to get to know her and that he said she was there by default and that he had brought up the fact that he had spent the night with Claire. How is that similar to her conversation with Nick and discussing their intimate time? Totally different. We're not comparing apples to apples here.

Regarding #2: She was dramatic, yes, and may have overreacted, but that conversation could have been interpreted different ways, with either party not handling it perfectly.

Regarding #3: Again, it's not unheard of for the lead to sleep with the ones they have feelings for and are considering ending up with. It's the process on this show. People keep forgetting that. She could have slept with three guys, but showed class in sending Chris home.

Josh gets it and gets Andi. He knows the process. Why would MM need to get involved here?