Re: Andi Dorfman & Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 - General Discussion

by albean99 Tue Sep 16, 2014 12:10 am

docnash14 wrote:
sbolduc wrote:Good post jlccaz.

I am very surprised they are going this route also, I really hope that those interested take the time to educate themselves on the product.

Thus far I have been impressed with this couple in terms of returning to normal life and feel they have a strong foundation.

However I am not impressed with this "new business venture", makes me feel they are taking advantage of their fans, whether they intend to or not, JMO.

I am not a big supporter of this type of program. I will say, however, that as far as I can tell, there are several other UGA athletes (including Josh's good friend Chad Gloer and Chad's mom Kathy) who have been involved with Advocare for a few years. In fact, Aaron has had its website as part of his twitter profile for many months. So Josh likely is familiar with its products and did not simply become involved without doing some due diligence.

I get what you (& others) are saying but I don't find athletes all that discerning if they think something will help them nor are some people who want an easy way to lose weight. I don't like it when anyone endorses something like this so I'm not just picking on Josh. There are others who sell jewelry or other things and that doesn't bother me because it will only hurt your pocketbook and not your health.

Of course it's all up to us what we want to do as fans. The most I've done is donate to the ALS run that Chris & Peyton take part in.

by IrishGal Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:14 am

What upsets me is that this is another example of a role model encouraging young women to lose weight when they don't need to. Does no one notice that young women today have a serious body image/anorexic problem? I challenge anyone to convince me that Andi needs to lose weight or change her body. I'm really disappointed by this.

by MiaHawk Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:48 am

An attorney and a financial advisor walk into a bar....

Nope, this is no joke. Just a bad idea. A very, very bad idea.
From a business law standpoint, from a health risk standpoint, and from a WTH are they thinking standpoint. hmmm

by foodie Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:21 pm

IrishGal wrote:What upsets me is that this is another example of a role model encouraging young women to lose weight when they don't need to. Does no one notice that young women today have a serious body image/anorexic problem? I challenge anyone to convince me that Andi needs to lose weight or change her body. I'm really disappointed by this.

I'm a little familiar with these products and they're not all about weight loss, but also strength training. When I first heard them doing this, I didn't think Andi is doing it to lose weight but to build muscle. JMO

by bleuberry Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:09 am

Bump!

Did I read that Andi and Kacie haven't met?

How old is Kacie? Aaron is so young!

by Guest Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:12 am

Laudergirl wrote:
Alanna wrote:
Deanna1826 wrote:I am so happy that Andi's parents have really stepped things up. They're are showing the love that's so important when a new relationship is just getting started. MM shows preference towards Aaron and that trickles down to Kacie. I have never really seen her show even an attempt Andi's way. If she mentions her it's in a very general way. I never saw a congratulatory post when the engagement was made public. She spends the majority of her time with Aaron and Kacie and that all really has to hurt Josh and therefore Andi is sure to be in protective mode. Sure she's favoriting some tweets now but that's too little too late. Andi is the woman Josh loves and they all need to suck it up. They barely even know her and aren't giving her a fair chance. MM needs to learn to spread it around or she's going to really regret it in the future if they cut her out. The same thing happened with my dad and his mom when his mom didn't like my mom and preferred his brother. That was the huge side of our family and we never got to know any of them. My parents are gone and most of my moms side of the family. Today, the only family I have is my 3 kids. It could have been so different if almost 50 years ago my grandmother could have cared about what she was missing and faked it if she had to. I hope that MM wakes up, sucks it up, and puts the rest of the family (other than Stephanie who has her head on straight) and Kacie in their places. If she doesn't, she will miss out on so much.

I don't know mm's place in all this but maybe what is really needed is The Man, The Myth, The Legend, Hy Dorfman, to implement some Real Talk in that family. I wonder if Josh looks at Andi and thinks "Wow!! I got the low maintenance one!"

Alanna, your are hilarious! One of the things I love about Andi is how real she is, she doesn't have to be dolled up all the time and doesn't shy away from posting pics of herself without make-up or acting silly. She is goofy and funny, like Josh, which I absolutely love! If I were a man, that is what I would want in a woman, not someone who always has to look perfect. That's what leads me to believe that , if there is any drama, it stems from Kacie. I know you shouldn't judge people by their SM alone, and I have seen very little of her on air persona, but I do think it's very telling when you see her constantly posting selfies, all glammed up, and appearing to really eat up all the attention she gets, particularly from her male fans. It definitely screams out attention seeker to me! I could be totally off base though.

Btw, I do think this should be in the general discussion thread, it just seemed nobody had gone in there for a while and I wnated to use Alanna's quote. How do I move this post over there without having to retype it?

by Ash2214 Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:21 am

bleuberry wrote:Bump!

Did I read that Andi and Kacie haven't met?

How old is Kacie? Aaron is so young!

Nope, Kacie and Andi haven't met yet - at least not that we have any public idea of anyway. Even while the season was airing kacie chose to favorite some not so nice things in regards to Andi. I wouldn't be surprised if Andi and Jish saw that. Shortly after that Josh unfollowed Kacie on Twitter and IG and deleted all of his pictures with her. Kacie is 24 and Aaron is 23. Also, since they started to date last winter their entire relationship has been long distance until she moved to KC about a month ago.

by sbolduc Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:24 am

Based on what I am reading there is possibly some family drama on Josh's side.

I think it is unfair to put this on MM or Kacie or Aaron and assume Andi and Josh are not at fault. I also think it's unfair to say they are at fault. They are tv personalities, we don't know how they act or what they say in the privacy of their own homes.

I really hope for all their sakes that if there are some issues they find in themselves to let it go....it is not worth it IMO, family to me is everything and if what we saw pre show is true it was very important to Josh as we'll.

by Ash2214 Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:28 am

^ You're right, it's not fair to put it on any one person, but considering Kacie was favoriting nasty tweets about Andi before the season even finished airing, I would say it most likely stems from Kacie. After Kacie started doing that, it was not long after that It seems like Josh cut ties with her.

by Guest Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:36 am

sbolduc wrote:Based on what I am reading there is possibly some family drama on Josh's side.

I think it is unfair to put this on MM or Kacie or Aaron and assume Andi and Josh are not at fault. I also think it's unfair to say they are at fault. They are tv personalities, we don't know how they act or what they say in the privacy of their own homes.

I really hope for all their sakes that if there are some issues they find in themselves to let it go....it is not worth it IMO, family to me is everything and if what we saw pre show is true it was very important to Josh as we'll.

That's what I find so unsettling in all of this, is how much Josh loved his family and put them first. It just seems so odd that he would let something come between them. The only thing I can think of that could cause him to act out would be his being protective over Andi and their relationship. I truly don't believe MM or Steph are causing a riff, they truly seem to be welcoming to Andi in my opinion. I agree with Ash2214 that if there is drama it started with Kacie. She screams drama to me. This is a girl that on SM is constantly posing seductive pictures of herself and obviously loving all the attention from her fans stating how hot she is and how she is the Murrays favorite. That wouldn't settle well with me either. It seemed her and Josh had an amicable relationship before the finale, so bringing a new strong minded woman into the picture definitely seemed to change some things. Maybe the fact that Andi is a no nonsense, take no crap kind of woman and wants equal attention for her man from his family is very threatening to Kacie.

by soccermom333 Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:51 am

Laudergirl wrote:
Laudergirl wrote:
Alanna wrote:

I don't know mm's place in all this but maybe what is really needed is The Man, The Myth, The Legend, Hy Dorfman, to implement some Real Talk in that family. I wonder if Josh looks at Andi and thinks "Wow!! I got the low maintenance one!"

Alanna, your are hilarious! One of the things I love about Andi is how real she is, she doesn't have to be dolled up all the time and doesn't shy away from posting pics of herself without make-up or acting silly. She is goofy and funny, like Josh, which I absolutely love! If I were a man, that is what I would want in a woman, not someone who always has to look perfect. That's what leads me to believe that , if there is any drama, it stems from Kacie. I know you shouldn't judge people by their SM alone, and I have seen very little of her on air persona, but I do think it's very telling when you see her constantly posting selfies, all glammed up, and appearing to really eat up all the attention she gets, particularly from her male fans. It definitely screams out attention seeker to me! I could be totally off base though.

Btw, I do think this should be in the general discussion thread, it just seemed nobody had gone in there for a while and I wnated to use Alanna's quote. How do I move this post over there without having to retype it?

There is enough love in the Murray family to go around. Getting engaged or married or having babies is not a race or competition!

Lets focus on the positive and the fact that Andi and Josh love each other more than anything. Congrats to his brother too. I am sure we will see the family coming together this next year! Big things are happening for them! Kacie will come around. She has too. Josh and andi will be marrying in front of millions on TV. That is how their relationship started. It is only natural.

I honestly think Aaron and Kacie are very young but probably were planning on getting engaged before Josh went on the bachelorette. Life happened and Josh got engaged first. :cutesmile!:

by Alanna Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:53 am

Ash2214 wrote:^ You're right, it's not fair to put it on any one person, but considering Kacie was favoriting nasty tweets about Andi before the season even finished airing, I would say it most likely stems from Kacie. After Kacie started doing that, it was not long after that It seems like Josh cut ties with her.

Yep, the moment I see Andi posting some duck face selfies in her sexiest little number, I'll re-evalute which Future Mrs. Murray is actually, secretly 12 years old. With that said, it might be time for Josh to go ahead and peel off Andi's yoga pants and dig out his big boy pants and do the great honor of extending some sm follows and friend requests to his family because Kacie about to be his baby sis in law. Aww! Schnuggles!

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