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Post by umngirl Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:35 pm

Man. Reading this discussion about Andi's personality and whether she's a strong woman makes me glad none of you observe me in my real life. I think I exhibit many of the same qualities Andi does and people have always said they liked/admired that I was like that. Guess this means something different on a highly edited, stressful, and unusual t.v. show.

Maybe my point is just that I don't see what's so "bad" about Andi. Then again, I don't really see what's so great about many contestants that others love. Gotta make the world go round some way. Dissimilar tastes will do that.


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Post by luvlady345 Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:35 pm

Oh gosh, I just LOVE Andi!!!!!


 

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Post by soccermom333 Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:38 pm

vivi2 wrote:
PS. Regardless of my opinion, if Andi is so "bad", why more than one guy fell in love with her?  Were they lying or just love in the bubble hence not real love?





This is a great post!  clapping! 

I have never seen a bachelorette get so many declarations of love. Josh, Nick, Marcus, and Chris. (Maybe more) They all LOVED her and wanted her.
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Post by vivi2 Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:40 pm


The world will be so boring if we're all the same. A woman doesn't have to be sweet to be a good woman.

"Thou shall not judge" is my motto and I'm sticking to it.

THE END.

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Post by Alanna Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:45 pm

vivi2 wrote:
PS. Regardless of my opinion, if Andi is so "bad", why more than one guy fell in love with her?  Were they lying or just love in the bubble hence not real love?

Men love it. laugh out loud
http://www.amazon.com/Why-Men-Love-Bitches-Relationship/dp/1580627560

Andi pretty much reminds me of any normal, cute, wealthy/spoiled girl that's been loved up by her doting family her whole life. There is nothing wrong with her, it's perfectly understandable why she has some of her personality quirks. I think she was the best Ette ever, hands down!


Big: You know, Manhattan has a lot of beautiful women.
Carrie: What an amazing observation!
Big: But the thing is, after awhile, you just wanna be with the one who makes you laugh.
~ Sex and the City

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Post by MiaHawk Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:05 am

I'm not saying Andi is a "bad" person.  She's an average 26 year old girl.  It is purely my personal opinion that she shouldn't be held up as the gold standard of what a strong woman is.  This is purely my opinion.  You are free to feel differently.

And, one of these posts above described Andi as "XXX".  Not a word in my typical vocabulary.  I read the description on urbandictionary.com, and I'm more confused than ever why somebody would think that was complimentary.  But, to each his own. Like I said, I don't think Andi is a "bad" person, just not my cup of tea.


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Post by Maggenzm Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:06 am

umngirl wrote:Man. Reading this discussion about Andi's personality and whether she's a strong woman makes me glad none of you observe me in my real life. I think I exhibit many of the same qualities Andi does and people have always said they liked/admired that I was like that. Guess this means something different on a highly edited, stressful, and unusual t.v. show.

Maybe my point is just that I don't see what's so "bad" about Andi. Then again, I don't really see what's so great about many contestants that others love. Gotta make the world go round some way. Dissimilar tastes will do that.

Great Post! To each his own. I love Andi, the good, the bad, and the ugly! She is strong. but yet tender when she needs to be.
She can't be that bad, 95%+ of bach fans love her. So, you can't win them all. Heck, even Jesus Christ who did all good, had enemies.
I am glad she doesn't care what people think about her. she is happy with her man, got family and friends that love her, and that's all that matters really.
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Post by Maggenzm Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:21 am

Alanna wrote:
vivi2 wrote:
PS. Regardless of my opinion, if Andi is so "bad", why more than one guy fell in love with her?  Were they lying or just love in the bubble hence not real love?

Men love it. laugh out loud
http://www.amazon.com/Why-Men-Love-Bitches-Relationship/dp/1580627560

Andi pretty much reminds me of any normal, cute, wealthy/spoiled girl that's been loved up by her doting family her whole life. There is nothing wrong with her, it's perfectly understandable why she has some of her personality quirks. I think she was the best Ette ever, hands down!

 word Good Post 
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Post by Maggenzm Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:24 am

soccermom333 wrote:
vivi2 wrote:
PS. Regardless of my opinion, if Andi is so "bad", why more than one guy fell in love with her?  Were they lying or just love in the bubble hence not real love?


This is a great post!   clapping! 

I have never seen a bachelorette get so many declarations of love.  Josh, Nick, Marcus, and Chris.  (Maybe more)  They all LOVED her and wanted her.  

Brown, and more. and even the ones that didn't say it, all agreed, she is the total package, they loved her. I have great respect for Andi. The best ever ette IMO. clapping! 
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Post by Relalou Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:42 am

Maggenzm wrote:
soccermom333 wrote:
vivi2 wrote:
PS. Regardless of my opinion, if Andi is so "bad", why more than one guy fell in love with her?  Were they lying or just love in the bubble hence not real love?


This is a great post!   clapping! 

I have never seen a bachelorette get so many declarations of love.  Josh, Nick, Marcus, and Chris.  (Maybe more)  They all LOVED her and wanted her.  

Brown, and more. and even the ones that didn't say it, all agreed, she is the total package, they loved her. I have great respect for Andi. The best ever ette IMO. clapping! 

 clapping! clapping! clapping! 

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Post by Eagle Eye Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:49 am

Alanna wrote:This is slightly off-topic but how do we know what kind of women MM and Josh's sister are that they should rub off on Andi? I have looked at their sm since the season started and I have no idea how in the world they're different than Andi tbh. In fact, prior to Andi, Josh kept posting that he wants a woman just like his mom and he seems to think that is exactly who he's found.
I'm wondering the same thing myself. In fact, I thought it was pretty much the consensus outside the Josh fan thread that Lauren is a total ball-buster who rules that household with an iron fist and brooks no opposition. Strength? Yes. Grace and compassion? I don't believe anyone ever used those words to describe her. By Stephanie's own admission, she gets her "diva side" from her mom, and if I were to judge her by her social media (which I'm not), one might think she's a pretty typical, self-absorbed 21-year-old. I'm not really getting strength, grace or compassion from anything we've seen of her. So Lauren's a diva, Stephanie's a spoiled diva, and now Andi's a brat and a diva? Josh must feel like he won the lottery!


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Post by Lucas15 Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:05 am

umngirl wrote:Man. Reading this discussion about Andi's personality and whether she's a strong woman makes me glad none of you observe me in my real life. I think I exhibit many of the same qualities Andi does and people have always said they liked/admired that I was like that. Guess this means something different on a highly edited, stressful, and unusual t.v. show.

Maybe my point is just that I don't see what's so "bad" about Andi. Then again, I don't really see what's so great about many contestants that others love. Gotta make the world go round some way. Dissimilar tastes will do that.

Interesting post. My wife (who is a very strong woman and exhibits many of the same qualities as Andi - and apparently you) says Andi is her favorite Bette of all time and in many regards I share her opinion. And upthread I read this description:

there are some women, AND men in my field who are brash, confrontational, and treat every discussion as an argument to "win".  They tend to be adversarial especially during negotiations or points of disagreement - they do not do well at "seeking to understand and find common ground".  They show little grace or humility.

and I had to read it several times before I realized it was an attempt to describe Andi and not someone else because I see it as a perfect description (and could cite and have cited examples) of a contestant that many others love. Different strokes for different folks.

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