Re: Andi Dorfman & Josh Murray - Media Thread - Fan Forum - Discussion Thread #4

by Alanna Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:26 am

sara11 wrote:I can't even imagine how hard this must be for them if its this difficult for us..

If you look back, it's been 7 weeks since Josh posted she's his baby and blahblahblah whatever he used to post about her so I don't think it's sudden whatsoever, it's just hindsight is 20/20 for us.

by sara11 Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:31 am

Alanna wrote:
sara11 wrote:I can't even imagine how hard this must be for them if its this difficult for us..
If you look back, it's been 7 weeks since Josh posted she's his baby and blahblahblah whatever he used to post about her so I don't think it's sudden whatsoever, it's just hindsight is 20/20 for us.

I guess so, atleast it appears to be mutual problems since they both stopped posting things like that. And if problems started then, they've clearly tried to work through it. I wish they would release something more personal to their fans sort of like what michelle and cody did on ig

by nannymargie Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:33 am

Alanna wrote:
sara11 wrote:I can't even imagine how hard this must be for them if its this difficult for us..
If you look back, it's been 7 weeks since Josh posted she's his baby and blahblahblah whatever he used to post about her so I don't think it's sudden whatsoever, it's just hindsight is 20/20 for us.

I just looked and he said his sweetheart Andi Dorfman for the Advocare call. That was 5 weeks ago, Not that there is much difference 5 or 7.

by AnandaMarie Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:35 am

Alanna wrote:
sara11 wrote:I can't even imagine how hard this must be for them if its this difficult for us..
If you look back, it's been 7 weeks since Josh posted she's his baby and blahblahblah whatever he used to post about her so I don't think it's sudden whatsoever, it's just hindsight is 20/20 for us.

Actually 4 weeks ago was the last time that he posted a picture with Andi with a nice caption. I think they had been having problems for like maybe a month and thats why they still celebrated Christmas with both families, because they were trying to make it work. I think they onky broke up recently though.

by **GuardianAngel** Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:40 am

Alanna wrote:
sara11 wrote:I can't even imagine how hard this must be for them if its this difficult for us..
If you look back, it's been 7 weeks since Josh posted she's his baby and blahblahblah whatever he used to post about her so I don't think it's sudden whatsoever, it's just hindsight is 20/20 for us.

I don't think it's sudden either because he was quick to update his twitter profile pic which to me indicates he's was ready to move on.

Also I just wanted to point out, all the comments about what he said, the next person he says I love you to he wants to marry, and so many more that have been posted, we have to remember at the time they both meant it. That's how they felt at the time, and it was real.

This is a crazy show. They moved in together, travelled a lot, and the more they got to know each other, the more they probably realized it isn't what it was any more. These are just my opinions but it happens in every day life. Couples grow apart for whatever reasons, one person changes, the other is the same. That doesn't mesh any more.

by nannymargie Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:42 am

GuardianAngel wrote:
Alanna wrote:
sara11 wrote:I can't even imagine how hard this must be for them if its this difficult for us..
If you look back, it's been 7 weeks since Josh posted she's his baby and blahblahblah whatever he used to post about her so I don't think it's sudden whatsoever, it's just hindsight is 20/20 for us.

I don't think it's sudden either because he was quick to update his twitter profile pic which to me indicates he's was ready to move on.

Also I just wanted to point out, all the comments about what he said, the next person he says I love you to he wants to marry, and so many more that have been posted, we have to remember at the time they both meant it. That's how they felt at the time, and it was real.

This is a crazy show. They moved in together, travelled a lot, and the more they got to know each other, the more they probably realized it isn't what it was any more. These are just my opinions but it happens in every day life. Couples grow apart for whatever reasons, one person changes, the other is the same. That doesn't mesh any more.

We understand that Guardian and we know they meant what they said at the time but it still breaks my heart for them to break up. What we saw on TV was the love that we wanted for a life time for them.

by AnandaMarie Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:50 am

nannymargie wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:
Alanna wrote:
If you look back, it's been 7 weeks since Josh posted she's his baby and blahblahblah whatever he used to post about her so I don't think it's sudden whatsoever, it's just hindsight is 20/20 for us.

I don't think it's sudden either because he was quick to update his twitter profile pic which to me indicates he's was ready to move on.

Also I just wanted to point out, all the comments about what he said, the next person he says I love you to he wants to marry, and so many more that have been posted, we have to remember at the time they both meant it. That's how they felt at the time, and it was real.

This is a crazy show. They moved in together, travelled a lot, and the more they got to know each other, the more they probably realized it isn't what it was any more. These are just my opinions but it happens in every day life. Couples grow apart for whatever reasons, one person changes, the other is the same. That doesn't mesh any more.

We understand that Guardian and we know they meant what they said at the time but it still breaks my heart for them to break up. What we saw on TV was the love that we wanted for a life time for them.

Yeah i just want them to have that love forever.

by soccermom333 Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:37 am

Funny how everyone is giving an interview saying what "they" think. Only opinion like us here. I have my thoughts but will wait for the dust to settle to say. If you want a clue as to what really happened check out Brian Osborne. He has no filter and is pretty spot on. Smiley

. IMHO. ;)

by aviej Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:41 am

I have a funny feeling that Dylan and Brian already knew about the break up. Either they were informed at the evening they had out or something. Because just before Andi and Josh go to get interviewed by CH we see Dylan and Josh cheering him on, like shooting guns at him like he's the man. And Josh returned their gesture. Strangely enough though, one hand was in front of Andi and the other hand behind her while he was doing it and like Andi was just annoyed and she stepped back as if to say get away. Andi was there all glued waiting for her cue to go up on stage and Josh couldn't care less about the fame. Josh has remained the same guy all along - he doesn't care for cameras. I feel though that it's not the same for Andi and that is why they broke up - while she did love him, she also loved putting on a show.

by Guest Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:43 am

I'm trying to be realistic about this whole thing but it's so darn confusing. I just really want to know what is or was real and what wasn't. I tend to agree with GA that what Josh said on the show, he did mean at the time. But circumstances do change.

Here is what gets me, some girl posted on twitter a text message saying that Andi said it was all a business deal and that they both got tired of pretending. This showed up in the twitter feed but now appears to be deleted. I don't know that it's legit, but it's upsetting nonetheless. I can deal with the idea that Andi and Josh were in love, and tried to make it work but couldn't. What I can't deal with is the idea that it was a business deal all along. I don't believe Josh would go for that. Why after waiting five years to find a girl to settle down with would he waste the better part of a year on a relationship that wasn't going to work. It makes no sense. Nor does a tweet from Patti Dorfman back in the fall regarding break up rumors then that HY fakes nothing. Her mom was very interactive with Josh on twitter for a time, and that stopped around Thanksgiving. I really want to believe that all was going pretty well with these two until about that time. It meshes with the Mexico girls trip too.

Have I really just been that gullible about the love between these two? I've never fallen for it with any other couple, but i did hook line and sinker with Josh and Andi. I hope it was real, but we may never know.

by Spencer81 Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:50 am

aviej wrote:I have a funny feeling that Dylan and Brian already knew about the break up. Either they were informed at the evening they had out or something. Because just before Andi and Josh go to get interviewed by CH we see Dylan and Josh cheering him on, like shooting guns at him like he's the man. And Josh returned their gesture. Strangely enough though, one hand was in front of Andi and the other hand behind her while he was doing it and like Andi was just annoyed and she stepped back as if to say get away. Andi was there all glued waiting for her cue to go up on stage and Josh couldn't care less about the fame. Josh has remained the same guy all along - he doesn't care for cameras. I feel though that it's not the same for Andi and that is why they broke up - while she did love him, she also loved putting on a show.

I totally agree.. Andi has gotten better looking since the show, maybe she has lost weight or working out with Josh. And she is starting her new career it seems with designing clothes etc. And Josh still has his same goals as when they met. I believe hers have changed. Why, who knows. But Josh is hurting, not sure about Andi.. I'm sure in a way she is, but I believe it is her saying no, don't want to settle down.

by edenpol Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:51 am

Laudergirl wrote:I'm trying to be realistic about this whole thing but it's so darn confusing. I just really want to know what is or was real and what wasn't. I tend to agree with Ga that what Josh said on the show, he did mean at the time. But circumstances do change.

Here is what gets me, some girl posted on twitter a text message saying that Andi said it was all a business deal and that they both got tired of pretending. This showed up in the twitter feed but now appears to be deleted. I don't know that it's legit, but it's upsetting nonetheless. I can deal with the idea that Andi and Josh were in love, and tried to make it work but couldn't. What I can't deal with is the idea that it was a business deal all along.

So am I really that gullible to have fallen for their love story? I've watched this show since Trista and Ryan, and I have never felt so strongly about a couple as this, so it's not just that I'm a hopeless romantic that way. These two really effected me and seemed genuinely in love.

I don't rush to believe all of it. But I agree, as much as I love them, and it pains me that they broke up, if this was all an act, I'll be so angry. But again, I don't rush to any of this, people say many different things. I believe that they really did love each other, a lot, and something must have happened.

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