Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 10 - MTP-LCD-FRC- July 28/14 *Spoilers & Sleuthing* #2 - Discussion

jlccaz wrote:He was vengeful,  that didn't come from a place of love, it was hurtful, and he wanted to hurt because he hurt, best case

 I actually find it more exculpatory of his character if he was just fulfilling a contract there rather than trying to take away happiness from her

That's not love ... Read Corinthians ha!

 :broken heart: That is definitely a bleeding heart there when he said that! Why?... Why?
What not LOVE is when Andi said it's Josh since the start then why did she had sex with Nick....why? Me too I'm so confused and disgusted!

lovelySC wrote:

jlccaz wrote:He was vengeful,  that didn't come from a place of love, it was hurtful, and he wanted to hurt because he hurt, best case

 I actually find it more exculpatory of his character if he was just fulfilling a contract there rather than trying to take away happiness from her

That's not love ... Read Corinthians ha!

 :broken heart: That is definitely a bleeding heart there when he said that! Why?... Why?
What not LOVE is when Andi said it's Josh since the start then why did she had sex with Nick....why? Me too I'm so confused and disgusted!

Especially when you say you take the process seriously, isn't that what she told Eric and some of the others. So why? would you have sex with a man you don't love or have any intentions of choosing. Knowing you will choose another man in a few days and accept his proposal...Why?

Andi NEVER said she knew while she was having sex with Nick that she was already in love with Josh, but decided to do it anyway.  She said she had a revelation at the end of the process that she really was in love with Josh all along but didn't realize it, and that's why she didn't make her decision until the final day.  That's her story (we are all free to believe her or not), and that's why she continued to pursue her relationship with Nick, including sleeping with him on the FDs, and maybe thinking/hoping that she WOULD fall in love with him, but it didn't happen.  No confusion there as far as I see it.

Of course hindsight is 20/20, and if Andi knew how things would have gone down on ATFR, I suspect she would have met with Nick before (where it would have been filmed and shown on the show anyway).  If Nick asked her the same question, does anyone really believe it would have been edited out?  Well, I suppose Andi could have begged, but at the very least, at least she would have been prepared for the bombshell Nick dropped.  So yeah, that would have been a better outcome for her if she'd been able to predict the future.  Oh well.

ironcat wrote:Andi NEVER said she knew while she was having sex with Nick that she was already in love with Josh, but decided to do it anyway.  She said she had a revelation at the end of the process that she really was in love with Josh all along but didn't realize it, and that's why she didn't make her decision until the final day.  That's her story (we are all free to believe her or not), and that's why she continued to pursue her relationship with Nick, including sleeping with him on the FDs, and maybe thinking/hoping that she WOULD fall in love with him, but it didn't happen.  No confusion there as far as I see it.

Of course hindsight is 20/20, and if Andi knew how things would have gone down on ATFR, I suspect she would have met with Nick before (where it would have been filmed and shown on the show anyway).  If Nick asked her the same question, does anyone really believe it would have been edited out?  Well, I suppose Andi could have begged, but at the very least, at least she would have been prepared for the bombshell Nick dropped.  So yeah, that would have been a better outcome for her if she'd been able to predict the future.  Oh well.

Never a truer statement said Ironcat. TPTB would NEVER have edited out that comment, they go for the "shock" factor. :Nod: 

Judiful wrote:I watched ATFR again paying closer attention to what was said , and of course I still have Andi's back..Nick showed no class..he made a terrible choice running his mouth the way he did. I have way less respect for him now than I did before. I know people love him and that's their right..To each his own. Not me...Congratulations Andi and Josh ..!! Perfect match !!  

wow! and they're off to a great start...with visions of Andi having sex with Nick in Josh head. And Nick the bad guy.

[quote="ironcat"]Andi NEVER said she knew while she was having sex with Nick that she was already in love with Josh, but decided to do it anyway.  She said she had a revelation at the end of the process that she really was in love with Josh all along but didn't realize it, and that's why she didn't make her decision until the final day.  That's her story (we are all free to believe her or not), and that's why she continued to pursue her relationship with Nick, including sleeping with him on the FDs, and maybe thinking/hoping that she WOULD fall in love with him, but it didn't happen.  No confusion there as far as I see it.

Of course hindsight is 20/20, and if Andi knew how things would have gone down on ATFR, I suspect she would have met with Nick before (where it would have been filmed and shown on the show anyway).  If Nick asked her the same question, does anyone really believe it would have been edited out?  Well, I suppose Andi could have begged, but at the very least, at least she would have been prepared for the bombshell Nick dropped.  So yeah, that would have been a better outcome for her if she'd been able to predict the future.  Oh well.

  On the proposal segment she proclaim her love to Josh after he proposed to her! She knew right away that it's him! Only a s-l -u-t would have sex with another man when you feel in love with someone!

lovelySC wrote:

ironcat wrote:Andi NEVER said she knew while she was having sex with Nick that she was already in love with Josh, but decided to do it anyway.  She said she had a revelation at the end of the process that she really was in love with Josh all along but didn't realize it, and that's why she didn't make her decision until the final day.  That's her story (we are all free to believe her or not), and that's why she continued to pursue her relationship with Nick, including sleeping with him on the FDs, and maybe thinking/hoping that she WOULD fall in love with him, but it didn't happen.  No confusion there as far as I see it.

Of course hindsight is 20/20, and if Andi knew how things would have gone down on ATFR, I suspect she would have met with Nick before (where it would have been filmed and shown on the show anyway).  If Nick asked her the same question, does anyone really believe it would have been edited out?  Well, I suppose Andi could have begged, but at the very least, at least she would have been prepared for the bombshell Nick dropped.  So yeah, that would have been a better outcome for her if she'd been able to predict the future.  Oh well.

  On the proposal segment she proclaim her love to Josh after he proposed to her! She knew right away that it's him! Only a s-l -u-t would have sex with another man when you feel in love with someone!

Listen to it again, that's not what she said.

I didn't really watch Andi's season, but I am curious if she was soooo in love with Josh, why in the world did she sleep with Nick?   

[quote="ironcat"]Andi NEVER said she knew while she was having sex with Nick that she was already in love with Josh, but decided to do it anyway.  She said she had a revelation at the end of the process that she really was in love with Josh all along but didn't realize it, and that's why she didn't make her decision until the final day.  That's her story (we are all free to believe her or not), and that's why she continued to pursue her relationship with Nick, including sleeping with him on the FDs, and maybe thinking/hoping that she WOULD fall in love with him, but it didn't happen.  No confusion there as far as I see it.

Of course hindsight is 20/20, and if Andi knew how things would have gone down on ATFR, I suspect she would have met with Nick before (where it would have been filmed and shown on the show anyway).  If Nick asked her the same question, does anyone really believe it would have been edited out?  Well, I suppose Andi could have begged, but at the very least, at least she would have been prepared for the bombshell Nick dropped.  So yeah, that would have been a better outcome for her if she'd been able to predict the future.  Oh well.

KARMA...I remember JP telling her about what happen in their fantasy suite the last time... she keep yapping all he did was talk about himself not asking about her. JP said what happen in FS is just for the two of them. Now reversed situation. What comes around, goes around!   

Mommyof1 wrote:I didn't really watch Andi's season, but I am curious if she was soooo in love with Josh, why in the world did she sleep with Nick?    

She was horny and his date was first

bleuberry wrote:

Mommyof1 wrote:I didn't really watch Andi's season, but I am curious if she was soooo in love with Josh, why in the world did she sleep with Nick?    

She was horny and his date was first

Yep.      

I jest, but I do suspect that if Josh's date was first, it wouldn't have happened with Nick.

I have been reading this entire season how once Josh told Andi he was falling in love with her in Belgium, she was a goner, that's all she needed, game over, everyone can go home.

So if she was head over heels with Josh by then, isn't it dishonest and disrespectful to both Nick, who openly told Andi what sleeping together meant to their relationship, he was in love and to him it wasn't just casual sex to scratch an itch, and to Josh who she was planning to get engage to in a matter of days?

As I see it, Nick gave his heart to this woman, she used him for casual sex, disregarded his feelings completely, and disregarded what her future fiancé might think or how hurt he would be, just because it felt good to go all the way with F2 guy that night.

She made a mistake, fine, at least own up to it.