Re: Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - Thread #6

[Alanna]

Can I just say how freaking amazing Andi must be in the fs for Nick to be harping on one night after 3 months and the woman being engaged to another dude for 2 of them??

Best Ette Ever. Period.

JMO

[Ash2214]

As Kasha said above, no one can control what other's perceptions are going to be.  A Fox news anchor calling her a slut can't fall on Nick's shoulders anymore than tweets blaming Andi for Eric's death can fall on her shoulders.

It's too bad that Josh didn't contact Andi when she was cut at F3 and go from there.   They could have avoided this whole mess, and still lived happily ever after.  Andi's season was not kind to her.  

If Nick didn't mention that they slept together on national television, no one would be referring to Andi with some of these awful terms. There's a cause and an effect to everything. Andi and Nick chose to have sex, but it was a private matter. Nick chose to take it public and therefore a lot of hate got thrown onto Andi because of a decision Nick made and I guess you could say Andi too, but regardless, Nick shares some of the blame to the fallout that happened because of his choices.

Really? The minute Andi accepted $$$ to become the Bachelorette, date multiple guys on television and fool viewers (not to mention her suitors) into thinking that she was falling in love with more than one man, is the minute that her every action became very public.

Why is it okay to comment and have snarky opinions on every little thing about this show but not okay to comment and have opinions about what went on in the FD?

And, keep in mind that ANDI WENT THERE FIRST. She made it very public what happened with her and Juan Pablo during the Fantasy Suite date. She told all the world what an a$$hole and jerk he was. You can't have it both ways!

Andi and Nick had sex in a private suite. No one else was around. No cameras. No crew. They could do whatever the heck they wanted to (clearly they did). What they did was in private. Sex should be a private thing. The deed was done in private. Do you happen to know if anyone was watching them or was in the room with them? If not, the act was done in private, but at the end of the day, Nick made it public.

[Bet2Win]

If Nick didn't mention that they slept together on national television, no one would be referring to Andi with some of these awful terms. There's a cause and an effect to everything. Andi and Nick chose to have sex, but it was a private matter. Nick chose to take it public and therefore a lot of hate got thrown onto Andi because of a decision Nick made and I guess you could say Andi too, but regardless, Nick shares some of the blame to the fallout that happened because of his choices.

Really? The minute Andi accepted $$$ to become the Bachelorette, date multiple guys on television and fool viewers (not to mention her suitors) into thinking that she was falling in love with more than one man, is the minute that her every action became very public.

Why is it okay to comment and have snarky opinions on every little thing about this show but not okay to comment and have opinions about what went on in the FD?

And, keep in mind that ANDI WENT THERE FIRST. She made it very public what happened with her and Juan Pablo during the Fantasy Suite date. She told all the world what an a$$hole and jerk he was. You can't have it both ways!

Andi and Nick had sex in a private suite. No one else was around. No cameras. No crew. They could do whatever the heck they wanted to (clearly they did). What they did was in private. Sex should be a private thing. The deed was done in private. Do you happen to know if anyone was watching them or was in the room with them? If not, the act was done in private, but at the end of the day, Nick made it public.

The mere fact of the FS being made public, that the 2 chose to use it, makes it public.

Remember Ed's FS? TPTB insinuated that he couldn't perform. Andi didn't keep what occurred with JPB in the FS private, so she full well knew that what occurred with Nick may not remain private either.

[luvlady345]

Can I just say how freaking amazing Andi must be in the fs for Nick to be harping on one night after 3 months and the woman being engaged to another dude for 2 of them??

Best Ette Ever. Period.

JMO

  I was saying that also, Andi must be lined with gold   , I need whatever Andi has.....

[Bet2Win]

I don't care if she slept with the whole lot of them, someone needs to challenge Blob's number.   

[Guest]

No. It's not.That's the thing..... It seems that people are missing the point some of us are trying to make...... IT's all oh "poor Andi is being called horrendous names, bc bad-bad Nicky acted like an ass and said things that should have been kept behind closed doors..." when it really isn't (See 2-)

What bothers me are 2 things..
[#1- Is the COMPLETE refusal of some people to actually acknowledge(or at least understand) what role ANDI played in this whole mess(and THE EFFECT). Arguable much bigger than Nick.]
#2- it's all "oh poor Andi, and bad-bad Nicky still harping on it"... The thing is, this is WAY beyond the actors by now, it's about the act(the FS and the effed up  mentality that goes along with it). It's about generating dialog and thus changing things.
You think TIME magazine is running this story to antagonize Andi? In a month or two no one will give a crap about Andi(and Nick)(obviously exaggerating to make a point), but the FS situation will be talked about and discussed for years to come.

Wait.. I missed that..TIME magazine is running a story on this?

[Ash2214]

Really? The minute Andi accepted $$$ to become the Bachelorette, date multiple guys on television and fool viewers (not to mention her suitors) into thinking that she was falling in love with more than one man, is the minute that her every action became very public.

Why is it okay to comment and have snarky opinions on every little thing about this show but not okay to comment and have opinions about what went on in the FD?

And, keep in mind that ANDI WENT THERE FIRST. She made it very public what happened with her and Juan Pablo during the Fantasy Suite date. She told all the world what an a$$hole and jerk he was. You can't have it both ways!

Andi and Nick had sex in a private suite. No one else was around. No cameras. No crew. They could do whatever the heck they wanted to (clearly they did). What they did was in private. Sex should be a private thing. The deed was done in private. Do you happen to know if anyone was watching them or was in the room with them? If not, the act was done in private, but at the end of the day, Nick made it public.

The mere fact of the FS being made public, that the 2 chose to use it, makes it public.

Remember Ed's FS?  TPTB insinuated that he couldn't perform.  Andi didn't keep what occurred with JPB in the FS private, so she full well knew that what occurred with Nick may not remain private either.

So with the bolded, you are insinuating, like I believe, that Andi and Nick had sex in private and Nick made it public. If he didn't say anything, no one would know for certain what went on.

[chloep]

No. It's not.That's the thing..... It seems that people are missing the point some of us are trying to make...... IT's all oh "poor Andi is being called horrendous names, bc bad-bad Nicky acted like an ass and said things that should have been kept behind closed doors..." when it really isn't (See 2-)

What bothers me are 2 things..
[#1- Is the COMPLETE refusal of some people to actually acknowledge(or at least understand) what role ANDI played in this whole mess(and THE EFFECT). Arguable much bigger than Nick.]
#2- it's all "oh poor Andi, and bad-bad Nicky still harping on it"... The thing is, this is WAY beyond the actors by now, it's about the act(the FS and the effed up  mentality that goes along with it). It's about generating dialog and thus changing things.
You think TIME magazine is running this story to antagonize Andi? In a month or two no one will give a crap about Andi(and Nick)(obviously exaggerating to make a point), but the FS situation will be talked about and discussed for years to come.

Wait.. I missed that..TIME magazine is running a story on this?

Yes.

[StacyNor]

Can I just say how freaking amazing Andi must be in the fs for Nick to be harping on one night after 3 months and the woman being engaged to another dude for 2 of them??

Best Ette Ever. Period.

JMO

Well telling his story really does not mean he is still loves the woman. The show did just finish a week ago you know. I think she is the worst Ette ever and ratings actually agree with me   

[Alanna]

Can I just say how freaking amazing Andi must be in the fs for Nick to be harping on one night after 3 months and the woman being engaged to another dude for 2 of them??

Best Ette Ever. Period.

JMO

  I was saying that also, Andi must be lined with gold   , I need whatever Andi has.....

Right?! Slow your roll, Andi! Poor Nick cannot simmer down after months and months now. Phew. Teach us your ways, girl!  :WAVEY: :WAVEY: 

[MVMom39forever]

Really? The minute Andi accepted $$$ to become the Bachelorette, date multiple guys on television and fool viewers (not to mention her suitors) into thinking that she was falling in love with more than one man, is the minute that her every action became very public.

Why is it okay to comment and have snarky opinions on every little thing about this show but not okay to comment and have opinions about what went on in the FD?

And, keep in mind that ANDI WENT THERE FIRST. She made it very public what happened with her and Juan Pablo during the Fantasy Suite date. She told all the world what an a$$hole and jerk he was. You can't have it both ways!

Andi and Nick had sex in a private suite. No one else was around. No cameras. No crew. They could do whatever the heck they wanted to (clearly they did). What they did was in private. Sex should be a private thing. The deed was done in private. Do you happen to know if anyone was watching them or was in the room with them? If not, the act was done in private, but at the end of the day, Nick made it public.

Just as ANdi made her PRIVATE time in the Fantasy Suite date with Juan Pablo very PUBLIC.


While Nick looked credibly confused and heartbroken when he did it, Andi seemed to relish her role in exposing her time in FD and even scored the Bachelorette role with her media tour ...

Huffington Post: Andi Dorfman Just Exposed The True Reality of the Bachelor

ABC News: 'Bachelor' Contestant Andi Dorfman Mocks Juan Pablo Galavis

US Magazine: Andi Dorfman, Bachelor Costars Mock Juan Pablo on Twitter Before Fantasy Suite Episode

People Magazine: "Bachelor's Andi Dorfman: 'I Was Turned Off' by Juan Pablo"

Excerpt: Andi Dorfman is still not over Juan Pablo Galavis's bad behavior on their overnight date in St. Lucia – and she trashes the hunky Venezuelan in the "Women Tell All" Bachelor special on Monday.

"I think he thinks he was a very good Bachelor," the 26-year-old tells host Chris Harrison, adding that the former soccer pro is "borderline narcissistic to the point where he was going to go down as the best 'el bachelor' in history."

[Cari]

Kudos to Nick! You made it in Time Magazine. It's all your fault, Andi! Why did you sleep with Nick when you're actually choosing Josh? Now your intention questioned by Nick will be given larger avenue. More people will dissect you. Don't cry foul! It IS LARGELY YOUR FAULT!

Again, congrats, Nick! Time Magazine? Big time!

Yes, *fistbump* you might have a chance to be The Next Bachelor!

Eta:

Oh, Andi, Andi, Andi, did you say on Nationa TV when you confronted Juan Pablo, "Juan Pablo, when we made love in the FS, why were you talking about you, yourself..." OH, I dint know she actually said the same thing as Nick! Forgive me!  I dint know Andi also publicly told the world those exact same words!

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