Re: Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 10 - Men Tell All - July 21/14 *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion 2

by BachfanNY Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:43 pm

eirekay wrote:
BachfanNY wrote:IMO, what he said on the plane was quite enough negative. And since he knows that video is public and out there, I'm sure it will be even more awkward and uncomfortable, how could it not?

If I had just been dumped and was venting to a friend, I would have said much worse, just out of hurt and disappointment. Nick's comments weren't flattering but IMO, given their context, they didn't assault anyone's person integrity. I would hope that Andi and Josh would realize how hurt Nick felt in that moment and look beyond that. The video was released more than two months ago - I'm sure bruised egos have had time to heal on all sides and compassion will prevail.

IMO, he called into question Josh's personal integrity, pretty much saying he doesn't have a brain of his own because he does whatever Andi wants and he sits around with his empty head eating and pooping all day. It's a diss, bruised ego or not. And the worst part is that he didn't stop at Josh. He didn't have nice things to say about Andi either - the girl he was claiming to love just days before.

Personally, I'm not holding my breath for bear hugs between Nick and Andi...

by chloep Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:19 pm

He didn't have nice things to say about Andi either - the girl he was claiming to love just days before.

Okay, I am starting to get annoyed by the fact that whenever the vid is discussed, ***edited***, but for some reason never elaborates...
Was it when he said that she was really close to her family, or how he LOVED her family? or how he was completely caught of guard bc he wanted to spend his life with her... Calling her stubborn? Really, I say Andi would be the first one to admit that she is.....
He did NOT dish her AT ALL. I know its easier for some people to say that and make him out to be the villain, who lead her on and Joshie the prince in shining armor, but the fact that he would NOT bash her, despite just having had his heartbroken by her, speaks volumes.... Bashing the person when your ego is hurt(saying "eh, she wasn't worth it anyway.") would be the easiest thing to do. It's the perfect coping mechanism of heartbreak. Yet he chose not to go down that route. He has his opinion of Josh and he is perfectly entitled to it. (Honestly, he spent more time with Josh then Andi did). However, that has nothing to do with Andi personally.

by Cecilia Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:24 pm

chloep wrote:
He didn't have nice things to say about Andi either - the girl he was claiming to love just days before.

Okay, I am starting to get annoyed by the fact that whenever the vid is discussed,***Edited****, but for some reason never elaborates...
Was it when he said that she was really close to her family, or how he LOVED her family? or how he was completely caught of guard bc he wanted to spend his life with her... Calling her stubborn? Really, I say Andi would be the first one to admit that she is.....
He did NOT dish her AT ALL. I know its easier for some people to say that and make him out to be the villain, who lead her on and Joshie the prince in shining armor, but the fact that he would NOT bash her, despite just having had his heartbroken by her, speaks volumes.... Bashing the person when your ego is hurt(saying "eh, she wasn't worth it anyway.") would be the easiest thing to do. It's the perfect coping mechanism of heartbreak. Yet he chose not to go down that route. He has his opinion of Josh and he is perfectly entitled to it. (Honestly, he spent more time with Josh then Andi did). However, that has nothing to do with Andi personally.

Thank you!! clapping!

by Alanna Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:27 pm

chloep wrote:
He didn't have nice things to say about Andi either - the girl he was claiming to love just days before.

Okay, I am starting to get annoyed by the fact that whenever the vid is discussed, ***Edited***, but for some reason never elaborates...
Was it when he said that she was really close to her family, or how he LOVED her family? or how he was completely caught of guard bc he wanted to spend his life with her... Calling her stubborn? Really, I say Andi would be the first one to admit that she is.....
He did NOT dish her AT ALL. I know its easier for some people to say that and make him out to be the villain, who lead her on and Joshie the prince in shining armor, but the fact that he would NOT bash her, despite just having had his heartbroken by her, speaks volumes.... Bashing the person when your ego is hurt(saying "eh, she wasn't worth it anyway.") would be the easiest thing to do. It's the perfect coping mechanism of heartbreak. Yet he chose not to go down that route. He has his opinion of Josh and he is perfectly entitled to it. (Honestly, he spent more time with Josh then Andi did). However, that has nothing to do with Andi personally.

Actually the funny part is that he should be bashing Andi, she's the decision-maker here, Josh didn't do anything to him and was like a third party, totally not involved in what Nick and Andi had going on at all. I'm not defending/condoning/criticizing any of this, it's just something that struck me reading the post.

by eirekay Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:29 pm

BachfanNY wrote:IMO, he called into question Josh's personal integrity, pretty much saying he doesn't have a brain of his own because he does whatever Andi wants and he sits around with his empty head eating and pooping all day. It's a diss, bruised ego or not. And the worst part is that he didn't stop at Josh. He didn't have nice things to say about Andi either - the girl he was claiming to love just days before.

I agree that no one is going to be singing "Kumbaya" at ATFR, but Nick's comments about Andi were "…ummm, she’s incredibly stubborn, and if someone is passive aggressive and bottles it up, it probably…you know what I’m sayin?”

I would say both of those statements, stubborn and passive agressive describe my DH and I have loved him deeply for 35+ years. I also would not take offense if someone called me stubborn - because it's true Hugesmile

by emeraldluvsbama Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:35 pm

chloep wrote:
He didn't have nice things to say about Andi either - the girl he was claiming to love just days before.

Okay, I am starting to get annoyed by the fact that whenever the vid is discussed, ****Edited****, but for some reason never elaborates...
Was it when he said that she was really close to her family, or how he LOVED her family? or how he was completely caught of guard bc he wanted to spend his life with her... Calling her stubborn? Really, I say Andi would be the first one to admit that she is.....
He did NOT dish her AT ALL. I know its easier for some people to say that and make him out to be the villain, who lead her on and Joshie the prince in shining armor, but the fact that he would NOT bash her, despite just having had his heartbroken by her, speaks volumes.... Bashing the person when your ego is hurt(saying "eh, she wasn't worth it anyway.") would be the easiest thing to do. It's the perfect coping mechanism of heartbreak. Yet he chose not to go down that route. He has his opinion of Josh and he is perfectly entitled to it. (Honestly, he spent more time with Josh then Andi did). However, that has nothing to do with Andi personally.

I consider myself a Josh and Andi fan (not Jodi yet because we don't know who she chose and won't 100% until July 28th). I agree he didn't say anything really bad about Andi but he for sure did about Josh.

by Ash2214 Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:37 pm

chloep wrote:
He didn't have nice things to say about Andi either - the girl he was claiming to love just days before.

Okay, I am starting to get annoyed by the fact that whenever the vid is discussed, ****Edited*** this up, but for some reason never elaborates...
Was it when he said that she was really close to her family, or how he LOVED her family? or how he was completely caught of guard bc he wanted to spend his life with her... Calling her stubborn? Really, I say Andi would be the first one to admit that she is.....
He did NOT dish her AT ALL. I know its easier for some people to say that and make him out to be the villain, who lead her on and Joshie the prince in shining armor, but the fact that he would NOT bash her, despite just having had his heartbroken by her, speaks volumes.... Bashing the person when your ego is hurt(saying "eh, she wasn't worth it anyway.") would be the easiest thing to do. It's the perfect coping mechanism of heartbreak. Yet he chose not to go down that route. He has his opinion of Josh and he is perfectly entitled to it. (Honestly, he spent more time with Josh then Andi did). However, that has nothing to do with Andi personally.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and that is all BachFanNY posted. I'm more than willing to state that I didn't have a single issue with what he said about Andi, but other people think the opposite. For some people, stating she was stubborn and passive aggressive along with saying she was "scared sh!tless" to pick him and that she just stuck to what she was used to was a bit of an insult. They're entitled to that opinion. I really don't care what he said about her. I didn't think it was that bad. What he said about Josh was rude and ignorant, but again, I don't care. I will state though saying all a guy does is "eat, sleep and sh!t" and that he has a bad temper and will essentially let Andi walk all over him is definitely an "attack" on Josh's character, but again, everyone has the right to freely state how they feel.

by eirekay Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:43 pm

Ash2214 wrote:Everyone is entitled to their opinion and that is all BachFanNY posted.

I totally get it. Forgive TeamNick fans Embarressed!

but its been a little rough around here lately.

by Kashathediva Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:44 pm

I shudder to think how I would act and speak in a moment that I was unguarded and had just experienced living in an emotional bubble for several weeks.
I think there would be lots of Melissa McCarthy moments for sure.

by Cecilia Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:45 pm

eirekay wrote:
Ash2214 wrote:Everyone is entitled to their opinion and that is all BachFanNY posted.

I totally get it. Forgive TeamNick fans but its been a little rough around here lately.

This is true! And I wouldn't say just lately!!

by Ash2214 Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:47 pm

eirekay wrote:
Ash2214 wrote:Everyone is entitled to their opinion and that is all BachFanNY posted.

I totally get it. Forgive TeamNick fans but its been a little rough around here lately.

I completely understand! Everyone is totally entitled to their opinions, but it's so much nicer reading posts where people aren't getting a little feisty with each other haha. Thankfully, it's only a few more days of craziness and we can all go back to normal Smiley

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by luvlady345 Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:49 pm

chloep wrote:
He didn't have nice things to say about Andi either - the girl he was claiming to love just days before.

Okay, I am starting to get annoyed by the fact that whenever the vid is discussed, ***Edited***, but for some reason never elaborates...
Was it when he said that she was really close to her family, or how he LOVED her family? or how he was completely caught of guard bc he wanted to spend his life with her... Calling her stubborn? Really, I say Andi would be the first one to admit that she is.....
He did NOT dish her AT ALL. I know its easier for some people to say that and make him out to be the villain, who lead her on and Joshie the prince in shining armor, but the fact that he would NOT bash her, despite just having had his heartbroken by her, speaks volumes.... Bashing the person when your ego is hurt(saying "eh, she wasn't worth it anyway.") would be the easiest thing to do. It's the perfect coping mechanism of heartbreak. Yet he chose not to go down that route. He has his opinion of Josh and he is perfectly entitled to it. (Honestly, he spent more time with Josh then Andi did). However, that has nothing to do with Andi personally.

NOPE not almost every single Josh/Andi fans bring this up I have seen a few but not almost all of their fans....

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