Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Plane Vid - Discussion - *Spoilers*

eliza3 wrote:I have to disagree with you…yes even if he was talking with another person who signed confidentiality contracts…he KNEW he was in a public place. Yes he might have been upset, sad, even overwrought, but so were several other, including Chris.    I wouldn't have blamed a person for tweeting or IGing a picture of Nick on the same plane…I would have been sleuthing that photo to find out when where how.

As for the Murrays…yes they are competitive, and I too see nothing wrong with that.  But to assume that it was the Murrays who told EVERYONE in Athens that Josh is engaged to Andi?    We have no proof what so ever, or even data leading us to believe that they broke their contract with ABC and announced this to the town of Athens.  

Actually, in my post, I said that my belief is that someone in Athens saw Josh being happy and took that to mean he is F1 and word spread.  I don't think the Murrays told anyone.  I have not posted a negative thing about the Murrays or Josh this season.  I am a fan of all the Murrays.  I admired them as a family before this show, with what I knew of them from Aaron playing at UGA and the fact that I live right in the heart of UGA country.

My only negative posts this season are about Andi and even then they are usually my opinion on her behavior during the episode or during JPGs season.

I have especially enjoyed Mia's posts today about that fact that Andi may have this from being overly pressured while she was young to be perfect.  Those thoughtful posts really made me think and will probably have me being a little more patient with Andi as a whole.  But if she starts telling Josh she is having a hard time trusting it again, I reserve the right to get irritated with her.  Enough with that!

Back to the plane. Id: Nick appears to be laughing when dicussing Josh's "traits". Watch his face .

remockered wrote:Back to the plane. Id:  Nick appears to be laughing when dicussing Josh's "traits".  Watch his face .

I had noticed that to...like "is that enough?

I am beginning to think even if it was a foiler, it does not change the fact that Josh is F1. It could be something TPTB had Nick do to drum up interest for an otherwise obvious season. Who knows?

isittrue wrote:I am beginning to think even if it was a foiler, it does not change the fact that Josh is F1.  It could be something TPTB had Nick do to drum up interest for an otherwise obvious season.  Who knows?

YMMV but the biggest reason I think Josh is f1 is because there's no way the Murrays would be so excited if he was anything but f1, even Bach, because of his htd and crying over his love for Andi. He could be the Bach any day he wanted to be, but I think this is the only time they've seen him cry over a girl.

Alanna wrote:

isittrue wrote:I am beginning to think even if it was a foiler, it does not change the fact that Josh is F1.  It could be something TPTB had Nick do to drum up interest for an otherwise obvious season.  Who knows?

YMMV but the biggest reason I think Josh is f1 is because there's no way the Murrays would be so excited if he was anything but f1, even Bach, because of his htd and crying over his love for Andi. He could be the Bach any day he wanted to be, but I think this is the only time they've seen him cry over a girl.

His mother also said to Andi it was the first time they had ever seen him be so touchy to a girl in front of them. They knew without even asking how he felt just by how Josh was in front of them always touching Andi.

I think the only reason that TPTB are defending Nick is because the vitriol from crazed viewers towards him was over the top, and IMO, they wanted to tone it down a little. They may not exactly feel guilty, but they don't want a crazy fan to attack him or something; remember Wes got a drink thrown on him because he was presented so badly by the editing.

ironcat wrote:I think the only reason that TPTB are defending Nick is because the vitriol from crazed viewers towards him was over the top, and IMO, they wanted to tone it down a little.   They may not exactly feel guilty, but they don't want a crazy fan to attack him or something; remember Wes got a drink thrown on him because he was presented so badly by the editing.

Hmmm ... well, they sure didn't have problem with Courtney being despised. I'd lump Vienna in there too.

They also were supposedly the sources for the over the spare NOTHING coverage in US, WetPaint and other rag magazines ripping Emily - Jef relationship. I was uber fan so remember clearly all the dirty truths that came out ...

Why is this vid now being exploited for the first time by these rags?   When Nick is making the comments about Josh, it looks like he is laughing, like he is joking in regards to Josh.

MVMom39forever wrote:

ironcat wrote:I think the only reason that TPTB are defending Nick is because the vitriol from crazed viewers towards him was over the top, and IMO, they wanted to tone it down a little.   They may not exactly feel guilty, but they don't want a crazy fan to attack him or something; remember Wes got a drink thrown on him because he was presented so badly by the editing.

Hmmm ... well, they sure didn't have problem with Courtney being despised. I'd lump Vienna in there too.

They also were supposedly the sources for the over the spare NOTHING coverage in US, WetPaint and other rag magazines ripping Emily - Jef relationship. I was uber fan so remember clearly all the dirty truths that came out ...

Do you really have to question this and why thing are done the way they are regarding men verses women on the Bachelor and Ette? Seriously this show is one of the most misogynist to ever come on, I have always said MF hate women.

rosesrREd wrote:I understand that. However, what purpose does it serve by defending Nick from the those who are not fans? They would just not say anything at all if they were upset with him talking on the phone. The only reason would TPTB would defend him was IF he were the F1, or the next Bachelor. Otherwise, why would they care?

For TPTB, their "Characters" are their commodity. Their only interest in protecting a "Character" is their potential use in future. Until they determine whether Chris is or is not their next Bachelor, they can't burn other possibilities. Marquel, Marcus and Cody are already off the table due to BIP. Who else is left?

remockered wrote:Why is this vid now being exploited for the first time by these rags?   When Nick is making the comments a out Josh, it looks like he is laughing, like he is joking in regards to Josh.

  because TPTB want to:
1. push the Josh as F1 campaign with the finale in sight
2. tie RS to the video to sink him