Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Plane Vid - Discussion - *Spoilers*

remockered wrote:Why is this vid now being exploited for the first time by these rags?   When Nick is making the comments about Josh, it looks like he is laughing, like he is joking in regards to Josh.

I thought that too the very first time I saw it. That is why I thought it was a joke. I thought perhaps he was playing along with maybe Elan who is famous for being a prankster, especially after the recent airplane joke Elan pulled off.

eirekay wrote:

rosesrREd wrote:I understand that. However, what purpose does it serve by defending Nick from the those who are not fans? They would just not say anything at all if they were upset with him talking on the phone. The only reason would TPTB would defend him was IF he were the F1, or the next Bachelor. Otherwise, why would they care?

For TPTB, their "Characters" are their commodity.  Their only interest in protecting a "Character" is their potential use in future.  Until they determine whether Chris is or is not their next Bachelor, they can't burn other possibilities.  Marquel, Marcus and Cody are already off the table due to BIP.  Who else is left?

Nah. I don't believe that is it. If that was the case then why not edited him great all along? Perhaps they underestimated the public reaction, but it's more than likely for a specific reason.

GuardianAngel wrote:

remockered wrote:Why is this vid now being exploited for the first time by these rags?   When Nick is making the comments about Josh, it looks like he is laughing, like he is joking in regards to Josh.

I thought that too the very first time I saw it. That is why I thought it was a joke. I thought perhaps he was playing along with maybe Elan who is famous for being a prankster, especially after the recent airplane joke Elan pulled off.

Yep, and at one point Nick literally said "say what?" I know sometimes that phrase is used to ask someone to repeat theirselves, but maybe he was literally askig the person on the phone "what do you want me to say?"

GuardianAngel wrote:

remockered wrote:Why is this vid now being exploited for the first time by these rags?   When Nick is making the comments about Josh, it looks like he is laughing, like he is joking in regards to Josh.

I thought that too the very first time I saw it. That is why I thought it was a joke. I thought perhaps he was playing along with maybe Elan who is famous for being a prankster, especially after the recent airplane joke Elan pulled off.

I thought that too - but if Josh is F1 as all the SM evidence seems to point to, what's the reason?  To draw more attention to this season, specifically on Nick?  I don't know.  Another thread had an interview with a football coach who knows Josh and he specifically mentions that Josh can't spoil the ending due to the $5 million confidentiality clause.  (Although it seems as though Josh's family knows the outcome, but that's another story) So why was Nick able to spoil the ending and we have not heard anything regarding Nick getting fined or anything?  Now the rag magazines in the last couple of weeks are picking up on it and mentioning in their stories.  Seems fishy to me... Then again, it may be real and Nick was just laughing nervously - who knows anymore???

luvlady345 wrote:

MVMom39forever wrote:

ironcat wrote:I think the only reason that TPTB are defending Nick is because the vitriol from crazed viewers towards him was over the top, and IMO, they wanted to tone it down a little.   They may not exactly feel guilty, but they don't want a crazy fan to attack him or something; remember Wes got a drink thrown on him because he was presented so badly by the editing.

Hmmm ... well, they sure didn't have problem with Courtney being despised. I'd lump Vienna in there too.

They also were supposedly the sources for the over the spare NOTHING coverage in US, WetPaint and other rag magazines ripping Emily - Jef relationship. I was uber fan so remember clearly all the dirty truths that came out ...

Do you really have to question this and why thing  are done the way they are regarding men verses women on the Bachelor and Ette?  Seriously this show is one of the most misogynist to ever come on, I have always said MF hate women.

Yes, yes, a thousand times Yes!!!   

For those who observe more closely, pay attention to his behavior and appreciate Nick's sarcasm and irony, shouldn't be anything strange that what Nick says about Josh in the video, could easily be said about Nick himself ... and for a guy who is very much aware of himself, own limitations, faults and recognizes and admits the mistakes, analyzes his moves and possibilities, I'm pretty sure he knew what a description he was giving, and still it can be said, that it wasn't that farfetched (of what we've seen of Josh) ... but then when he says about 'being insecure' ... that time even to me, it sounded like the most ironic opinion Nick could ever say about Josh, because it could be very much argued, who between the two is more insecure and my guess is Nick... so he started to laugh at his own comment.

GuardianAngel wrote:

remockered wrote:Why is this vid now being exploited for the first time by these rags?   When Nick is making the comments about Josh, it looks like he is laughing, like he is joking in regards to Josh.

I thought that too the very first time I saw it. That is why I thought it was a joke. I thought perhaps he was playing along with maybe Elan who is famous for being a prankster, especially after the recent airplane joke Elan pulled off.

The video has always seemed off to me.  You may have nailed it on the head.  A big joke, totally Elan's style.

I would love if TPTB were using the rag mags to tie the video to RS and then in AFTR they show it was total fake, be it Josh as F1 or Nick as F1, it was a setup to screw with RS.

Sometimes people laugh or smile nervously (if that is what he is actually doing) and it may be because there is someone sitting beside him that he knows has heard his entire conversation.  Surely he realizes that he is talking about a subject and experience in a public place that he really shouldn't be doing.    

I really don't care anymore one way or another as I believe that what I see between Josh and Andi confirms he's F1 for me.  Even those unspoiled on this board have been leaning Josh's way for awhile now.  I know people post that friends, co-workers, etc. who are not spoiled think it is Nick, but I would imagine those people are not heavily sleuthing SCs, and are really unfamiliar with how TPTB edit this show to death, etc.

To your last comment: agreed. My friends who think Nick is F1 don't even read blogs or google or read anything else.  They just watch the show.

RS just said on his live video chat that he personally knows the person who took the Video of Nick on the plane.

Ash2214 wrote:RS just said on his live video chat that he personally knows the person who took the Video of Nick on the plane.

Thanks for the info.
So after 2 months, RS decided to reveal this piece of info now? 
Could it be someone related to the show (possible foiler?) Paparazzi (why not sell to US or others) his personal friend? (What are the odds?) 

Ash2214 wrote:RS just said on his live video chat that he personally knows the person who took the Video of Nick on the plane.

Wow, what are the odds on that? An acquaintance of RS gets on the same flight with the F2 guy AND gets the seat right behind him AND the F2 guy not only makes the phone call revealing the entire ending but also reclines his seat and RS acquaintance gets the perfect view of Nick. Wow, just wow.

Just to clarify. Im a firm believer that Nick is F2 and that the video is real, but it was more plausible to me that a Bachelor fan that reads RS filmed the video. The fact that this person now knows RS personally, that part really blows my mind. :shocked!: