Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Plane Vid - Discussion - *Spoilers*

The FRC was in the Dominican Republic, and are you asking about Josh? I think his layover city may have been Miami? Anyone?

^ I believe Josh had the direct flight because he flew directly into Miami as his parents live in Tampa. If I remember correctly, Nick had a layover in Charlotte and then from there went to Milwaukee, but I'm not positive on that.

Ash2214 wrote:^ I believe Josh had the direct flight because he flew directly into Miami as his parents live in Tampa. If I remember correctly, Nick had a layover in Charlotte and then from there went to Milwaukee, but I'm not positive on that.  

That's correct. Nick's flight left DR that morning headed to Charlotte so he had a long travel day.

Ash2214 wrote:^ I believe Josh had the direct flight because he flew directly into Miami as his parents live in Tampa. If I remember correctly, Nick had a layover in Charlotte and then from there went to Milwaukee, but I'm not positive on that.  

Thanks, Ash!

docnash14 wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:^ I believe Josh had the direct flight because he flew directly into Miami as his parents live in Tampa. If I remember correctly, Nick had a layover in Charlotte and then from there went to Milwaukee, but I'm not positive on that.  

That's correct.  Nick's flight left DR that morning headed to Charlotte so he had a long travel day.

Was it from Punta Cana or Santa Domingo?

But that was the Air Wisconsin flight, correct? And the attendants did not have on the correct uniform? Did RS say what date he actually received the video?

nutty1 wrote:But that was the Air Wisconsin flight, correct? And the attendants did not have on the correct uniform? Did RS say what date he actually received the video?

This is according to RS: " Nick Viall was on US Airways flight 3837 from Charlotte to Milwaukee with a scheduled departure at 7:44pm that arrived in Milwaukee at 8:46pm"

I know this was discussed way up thread but I didn't get a chance to finish last night so bear with me.    

I have an iPhone 5 and can zoom but that doesn't help with the sound which makes it seems less likely it was a random passenger since they wouldn't likely have the right equipment to get such good sound. In that case I guess they could bribe someone to switch seats but how do they do that without Nick catching on? The question is would it be someone in the business who is connected to RS, random paparazzi (but why give it to RS unless he's the only taker?), or it could be someone assigned by Fleiss.  

For those that don't think Fleiss could pull off the recording, really? He puts on a whole tv show and gets what he wants from people all the time. It would be easy to prompt Nick by asking the right (leading) questions. It's easier to be natural if you're answering a question vs memorizing lines even if it's not all the truth. The cheetos could have been Nick's input and it certainly seems natural.  

Again the caveat for me is that I'm not saying this is definitely a foiler, only that it's a possibility. Like I've said before it's also possible that it's real from Nick's point of view yet still a foiler if someone else came back to the FRC and Andi accepted. I'm leaning against this one right now because it would probably have to be Chris or Marcus and I'm really not seeing either of them with Andi. The biggest probability is that the video is real and the spoiler is right with Josh as f1. I'm fine with that since it's Andi's life & not mine but I'd find it very boring if she ends up with the type of guy she always dates and he lives in her city. I'm also all about them fooling RS.

docnash14 wrote:

nutty1 wrote:But that was the Air Wisconsin flight, correct? And the attendants did not have on the correct uniform? Did RS say what date he actually received the video?

This is according to RS: " Nick Viall was on US Airways flight 3837 from Charlotte to Milwaukee with a scheduled departure at 7:44pm that arrived in Milwaukee at 8:46pm"

I posted the actual May 11th flight information up thread, but that actual flight on that date arrived at 20 minutes early. So, it seems he may not have all the details accurate.

The reason I am asking is because IF he had a layover in Charlotte, he would need to fly on a US Airways flight out of the DR.

albean99 wrote:

For those that don't think Fleiss could pull off the recording, really? He puts on a whole tv show and gets what he wants from people all the time. It would be easy to prompt Nick by asking the right (leading) questions. It's easier to be natural if you're answering a question vs memorizing lines even if it's not all the truth. The cheetos could have been Nick's input and it certainly seems natural.  

Again the caveat for me is that I'm not saying this is definitely a foiler, only that it's a possibility. The biggest probability is that the video is real and the spoiler is right with Josh as f1. I'm fine with that since it's Andi's life & not mine but I'd find it very boring if she ends up with the type of guy she always dates and he lives in her city. I'm also all about them fooling RS.

Hi albean99!

Agreed!

I'm glad that people here are entertaining all options (very kindly!) so that makes me feel more comfortable in saying a few more words on this:  

1) His dialog on the plane seems SO out of line with who he was shown to be on the show (my eyes see a smart, well-spoken, kind guy) and who he has shown himself to be post show.
2) When I see the video, it seems like he is getting his cues on what to say from the person on the other line
3) I swear I think that Nick laughed close to the end of the first "30 second" vid.
4) If I were part of the show's production staff (HA!) I would be more than delighted to sit down around a conf table and brainstorm on "how can we foil this year!"

  

Jen15 wrote:

albean99 wrote:

For those that don't think Fleiss could pull off the recording, really? He puts on a whole tv show and gets what he wants from people all the time. It would be easy to prompt Nick by asking the right (leading) questions. It's easier to be natural if you're answering a question vs memorizing lines even if it's not all the truth. The cheetos could have been Nick's input and it certainly seems natural.  

Again the caveat for me is that I'm not saying this is definitely a foiler, only that it's a possibility. The biggest probability is that the video is real and the spoiler is right with Josh as f1. I'm fine with that since it's Andi's life & not mine but I'd find it very boring if she ends up with the type of guy she always dates and he lives in her city. I'm also all about them fooling RS.

Hi albean99!

Agreed!

I'm glad that people here are entertaining all options (very kindly!) so that makes me feel more comfortable in saying a few more words on this:  

1) His dialog on the plane seems SO out of line with who he was shown to be on the show (my eyes see a smart, well-spoken, kind guy) and who he has shown himself to be post show.
2) When I see the video, it seems like he is getting his cues on what to say from the person on the other line
3) I swear I think that Nick laughed close to the end of the first "30 second" vid.
4) If I were part of the show's production staff (HA!) I would be more than delighted to sit down around a conf table and brainstorm on "how can we foil this year!"

  

Hi, JEN15: you can express your opinion freely even IF no one agrees with you, as long as you follow the forum rules, eg. no attacking fellow posters. So far you are doing  great!   

sdmom wrote:

Jen15 wrote:

albean99 wrote:

For those that don't think Fleiss could pull off the recording, really? He puts on a whole tv show and gets what he wants from people all the time. It would be easy to prompt Nick by asking the right (leading) questions. It's easier to be natural if you're answering a question vs memorizing lines even if it's not all the truth. The cheetos could have been Nick's input and it certainly seems natural.  

Again the caveat for me is that I'm not saying this is definitely a foiler, only that it's a possibility. The biggest probability is that the video is real and the spoiler is right with Josh as f1. I'm fine with that since it's Andi's life & not mine but I'd find it very boring if she ends up with the type of guy she always dates and he lives in her city. I'm also all about them fooling RS.

Hi albean99!

Agreed!

I'm glad that people here are entertaining all options (very kindly!) so that makes me feel more comfortable in saying a few more words on this:  

1) His dialog on the plane seems SO out of line with who he was shown to be on the show (my eyes see a smart, well-spoken, kind guy) and who he has shown himself to be post show.
2) When I see the video, it seems like he is getting his cues on what to say from the person on the other line
3) I swear I think that Nick laughed close to the end of the first "30 second" vid.
4) If I were part of the show's production staff (HA!) I would be more than delighted to sit down around a conf table and brainstorm on "how can we foil this year!"

  

Hi, JEN15: you can express your opinion freely even IF no one agrees with you, as long as you follow the forum rules, eg. no attacking fellow posters. So far you are doing  great!   

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