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Post by Piper61 Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:16 am

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Karche wrote:Oh look nic is wearing the token bracelet from DR to make sure he doesn't forget his heartache!  Hugesmile Also, nic and the photo taker must be the last few people to leave the plane for the flight attendant to leave before them. Was this discussed already?
I see what you're saying Karche, but I don't think that's the flight attendant... it looks like a passenger to me.  But it is interesting that the picture taker stayed very close to Nick as he left the plane, walked through the airport and waited for his luggage.
I don't know about anyone else, but whenever I have exited a plane, it's been in close proximity to the person in front of me, and the same for someone in back.  I could see the person continuing to keep an eye on him to see if anything further interesting happens. Plus, I would think they would want those added snapshots to corroborate that it is Nick if plans were to send to RS and convince him.  

If the person also had luggage to pick up, it makes perfect sense to me.


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Post by SueSt Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:17 am

Piper61 wrote:^^^^How do we know the flight attendant is actually leaving?  May be a dumb question but looking at the posted pic, I am not sure I could ascertain she is leaving just because she is in front of Nick.  If he is in the first row, isn't is a good bet he is leaving first, and the attendant is preparing the exit way, ready to step back shortly to let passengers out?

I am not 100% certain the video isn't fake, I see good arguments made on both sides.  I lean to real because I think what he says about Josh especially went just a bit too far.  I found it trashing a contestant in advance that has really shown nothing so far for that to be necessary.  And he wasn't exactly complimentary of his fiancé either, IMO.  When Des and Chris went along with the spoiler last season, I don't recall anything they did that were words out of their mouths disparaging each other or Brooks.

I can hardly wait to get to the bottom of plane vid gate.  If it is in fact real, can't wait for it to come up at ATFR.  That is if Andi and her F1 know of it, and I am betting they do.  
Good points Piper; particularly around nothing bad being said by Des/Chris about Brooks.
Can you be more specific about what Nick said about Andi that wasn't complimentary?
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Post by soccermom333 Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:22 am

Piper61 wrote:^^^^How do we know the flight attendant is actually leaving?  May be a dumb question but looking at the posted pic, I am not sure I could ascertain she is leaving just because she is in front of Nick.  If he is in the first row, isn't is a good bet he is leaving first, and the attendant is preparing the exit way, ready to step back shortly to let passengers out?

I am not 100% certain the video isn't fake, I see good arguments made on both sides.  I lean to real because I think what he says about Josh especially went just a bit too far.  I found it trashing a contestant in advance that has really shown nothing so far for that to be necessary.  And he wasn't exactly complimentary of his fiancé either, IMO.  When Des and Chris went along with the spoiler last season, I don't recall anything they did that were words out of their mouths disparaging each other or Brooks.

I can hardly wait to get to the bottom of plane vid gate.  If it is in fact real, can't wait for it to come up at ATFR.  That is if Andi and her F1 know of it, and I am betting they do.  




I agree and actually think the fact that Nick says Josh will do "whatever she wants," proves the video is real.  This statement is obviously not true, and not sure why he said it, but clearly Josh was the only man who stood up to Andi and expressed his feelings, and concerns about the lie detector test.  She was very upset about it and cried hysterically.  Over-reaction much??    

Not sure if the video will come up or not at the atfr.  They might not bring it up because it gives a shout out to RS.  I'm leaning to not.  LOL
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Post by Piper61 Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:24 am

SueSt wrote:
Piper61 wrote:^^^^How do we know the flight attendant is actually leaving?  May be a dumb question but looking at the posted pic, I am not sure I could ascertain she is leaving just because she is in front of Nick.  If he is in the first row, isn't is a good bet he is leaving first, and the attendant is preparing the exit way, ready to step back shortly to let passengers out?

I am not 100% certain the video isn't fake, I see good arguments made on both sides.  I lean to real because I think what he says about Josh especially went just a bit too far.  I found it trashing a contestant in advance that has really shown nothing so far for that to be necessary.  And he wasn't exactly complimentary of his fiancé either, IMO.  When Des and Chris went along with the spoiler last season, I don't recall anything they did that were words out of their mouths disparaging each other or Brooks.

I can hardly wait to get to the bottom of plane vid gate.  If it is in fact real, can't wait for it to come up at ATFR.  That is if Andi and her F1 know of it, and I am betting they do.  
Good points Piper; particularly around nothing bad being said by Des/Chris about Brooks.
Can you be more specific about what Nick said about Andi that wasn't complimentary?
Thank you, Sue. I can't recall specifically without rewatching, but if I recall, he referred to her as passive-aggressive and stubborn? ... going back to what she knows. That part wasn't so bad. In total, it wasn't horrible, but I think unnecessary even in a foiler. I think he was being totally real because of that.
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Post by Piper61 Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:28 am

soccermom333 wrote:
Piper61 wrote:^^^^How do we know the flight attendant is actually leaving?  May be a dumb question but looking at the posted pic, I am not sure I could ascertain she is leaving just because she is in front of Nick.  If he is in the first row, isn't is a good bet he is leaving first, and the attendant is preparing the exit way, ready to step back shortly to let passengers out?

I am not 100% certain the video isn't fake, I see good arguments made on both sides.  I lean to real because I think what he says about Josh especially went just a bit too far.  I found it trashing a contestant in advance that has really shown nothing so far for that to be necessary.  And he wasn't exactly complimentary of his fiancé either, IMO.  When Des and Chris went along with the spoiler last season, I don't recall anything they did that were words out of their mouths disparaging each other or Brooks.

I can hardly wait to get to the bottom of plane vid gate.  If it is in fact real, can't wait for it to come up at ATFR.  That is if Andi and her F1 know of it, and I am betting they do.  




I agree and actually think the fact that Nick says Josh will do "whatever she wants," proves the video is real.  This statement is obviously not true, and not sure why he said it, but clearly Josh was the only man who stood up to Andi and expressed his feelings, and concerns about the lie detector test.  She was very upset about it and cried hysterically.  Over-reaction much??    

Not sure if the video will come up or not at the atfr.  They might not bring it up because it gives a shout out to RS.  I'm leaning to not.  LOL
Good points, too, soccermom. She definitely had a meltdown, saw her fairy tale possibly slipping away.

You are probably correct that they won't want to give RS the satisfaction of bringing it up.
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Post by Hotmomma Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:43 am

My Take on the video.
it's not a "FAKE" video..Gosh it's Nick! And we see it..

it what it represents that is in question..

That's All. JMO
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Post by Brill Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:18 am

All I know is the filmmaker is one lucky person that:
1. He/she can have her phone right up to Nick when he is talking on the plane.   affraid 
2. Can be in the right seat to do this to begin with. clapping! 
3. Besides the flight attendant is the one to leave right behind Nick so no one else in the camera.  clapping! 
4. Even in the airport can get Nick all alone in the pictures without anyone else.  scratch 
5. Can do all this without Nick noticing.  sneakyl 
6. No other passenger says anything about this person filming Nick?? Has to be pretty obvious on the plane.  scratch 
7. Pretty clear video and sound must be a pro to be taking this??  handwave 
8. The person must be so lucky when taking this, that their seat beside them is already filled so as not to miss any of the convo. ( as in someone getting into their seat) Hey, forget that, maybe they have the seat all to themselves, even better!!  bowdown 

I watched it in slow motion and besides the times where Nick almost looks right at the person (notice this person does not move the camera back when Nick does this) you can see him looking out of the corner of his eye towards this person.  :yes:  He is moving a lot when he is talking, as in maybe nervous.  no idea 

In the 30 second video, you see him having a straight (serious) face but loses it for a moment and laughs.  Then you can see him struggling for his thoughts, like you would in trying to remember your lines.   no idea    no idea


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Post by SueSt Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:22 am

Brill wrote:All I know is the filmmaker is one lucky person that:
1. He/she can have her phone right up to him when he is talking on the plane.  
2. Can be in the right seat to do this to begin with.
3. Besides the flight attendant is the one to leave right behind Nick so no one else in the camera.
4. Even in the airport can get Nick all alone in the pictures without anyone else.
5. Can do all this without Nick noticing.
6. No other passenger says anything about this person filming Nick?? Has to be pretty obvious on the plane.
7. Pretty clear video and sound must be a pro to be taking this??
8. The person must be so lucky when taking this, that their seat beside them is already filled so as not to miss any of the convo. ( as in someone getting into their seat) Hey forget that maybe they have the seat all to themselves, even better!!

I watched it in slow motion and besides the times where Nick almost looks right at the person (notice this person does not move the camera back when Nick does this) you can see him looking out of the corner of his eye towards this person.  He is moving a lot when he is talking, as in maybe nervous.

In the 30 second video, you see him laughing at one point in talking about Josh as if he is trying to keep a
straight face, but kind of loses it for a moment.  Then you can see him struggling for his thoughts, like you would in trying to remember your lines.   no idea   :stirthepot   no idea 



Good points Brill... I'm with you!
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Post by SueSt Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:25 am

Piper61 wrote:
SueSt wrote:
Good points Piper; particularly around nothing bad being said by Des/Chris about Brooks.
Can you be more specific about what Nick said about Andi that wasn't complimentary?
Thank you, Sue.  I can't recall specifically without rewatching, but if I recall, he referred to her as passive-aggressive and stubborn? ... going back to what she knows.  That part wasn't so bad.  In total, it wasn't horrible, but I think unnecessary even in a foiler.  I think he was being totally real because of that.
Although I'm going to stick to thinking it's a foiler for reasons I have already enumerated (and which Brill does terrifically above)..  your points make sense.
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Post by Brill Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:39 am

Oh and gees, how could I forget... Then, just as soon as the filmmaker could, got this to one of the most important people there is when spoiling this show and that is RS of course!!!

It is an amazing feat that all this took place. Now, could all just this have happened just by the way of luck!!
Absolutely!! But you have to admit this person was ONE LUCKY film maker and if this is all for real then they better have got some good money out of RS for this GOLD NUGGET.

Oh and I hope this person got him/herself a LOTTO ticket because I would say it was One Lucky Day.... :yes: Hugesmile 


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Post by SueSt Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:41 am

Brill wrote:Oh and gees, how could I forget... Then, just as soon as the filmmaker could, got this to one of the most important people there is when spoiling this show and that is RS of course!!!

It is an amazing feat that all this took place. Now, could all just this have happened just by the way of luck!!
Absolutely!! But you have to admit this person was ONE LUCKY film maker and if this is all for real then they better have got some good money out of RS for this GOLD NUGGET.

Oh and I hope this person got him/herself a LOTTO ticket because I would say it was One Lucky Day.... :yes: Hugesmile 

hahahahahahahahahaha
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Post by Beagle Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:46 am

I will bet the person who filmed this video has read this entire thread and is probably laughing his/her butt off. no no 
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