Re: The Bachelorette 10 - *Final 1-F2* - Speculation * Sleuthing - Spoilers Thread #2

[Aunties_Love]

And if Chris goes out at F3 - like the spoilers say - then what? Who would be F1?

I am not sure.  Probably Nick.  I just don't see the personalities of Josh and Andi making it.  They both seem to want to butt heads and be strong headed.  In a long term relationship, that generally doesn't work well. It is a give and take and so far, both want to be king/queen of the show and that may not make it in the real world.

The bolded implies you believe the plane video is legit and not a foiler. For Nick to be F1, the video has to be faked (IMO).

I honestly believe that the video is a fake but to put myself in others shoes that believe it is real, I was trying to make sense of it is all.

[rosesrREd]

Talking about Josh here. The fact is that he was in Cancum. That was not a fake picture or fake well timed tweet.


As sleuths this should be the least that should dismissed in sleuthing. It is not circumstantial and it is pretty much the only real proof we have.

Even the plane video could have been a setup IMO.

Oh i'm not gonna go with you, if you can say the video, snap chat and all are foilers then Josh talking to Marcus or going to Cancun are imo 1/10000 a clue. 

I think we should wait and see what happens with Marcus on monday (that's not much ) or til we get SC to sleuth.

Just a question, why is it so easy to dismiss the idea that Josh may be on BIP.  He was in the same area during the filming of it.  Also, why is it easy to dismiss that concept but we need to believe the other SM "clues" pointing to Josh as F1?  Just confused is all.

my answer to nd i told her why i can't go there. Besides i'm not on the all the SM are clues but there are some things you can't deny even if it's not supporting your theory o who you believe is final 1. I don't even know if Josh was on BIP, how would i know ? But we can all speculate and say whaever we want, even if it's ridiculous, it'll be speculation til july 28th.

Josh is his SM posts seems to be angry.  Nick seems to be the total opposite, laid back, telling his supporters "thanks for the support, but there is no need to hate."  Nick is preaching a message of tranquility.  Josh favoring tweets which threaten bodily harm on Nick, makes him to be preaching a message of resentment.  Maybe it's just the difference in their personalities, but Josh seems angry.

[bilolo]

the quote thing is so messed up in the post above it's

[pander3575]

funny how we can all see, read and hear things differently. I haven't found Josh's tweets to be angry. Josh hasn't had to tell folks to not hate because I don't believe he's the one people are saying bad things about.

[Kashathediva]

Fixed. 
I'm going to water my plants now. 
 :shocked!: 
May need to hose myself down too.  

[nd4reality]

Of her finalists I do think that Josh is F1. But I don't believe that 100%. There is still a large % chunk that it could be someone else. This is just what I have gleaned from reading the threads and all the clues out there.
Some of those are circumstantial and therefore mean nothing to me. I learned from last season with the brooks fans finding proof on social media which was entirely false. So far I have seen nothing that provides conclusive proof.

The video did not tell me 100% that it was Josh as f1. It hinted at it but was by no means the "better than a video of the FRC" evidence that RS seemed to think it was. I am not the only one that feels this way on the board.

The snapchat picture could also have been a doctored image. I have said this before, in a teenage fandom that I am a part of    the kids are constantly producing images on tumblr of fake tweets - done to drive the other fans crazy. It is possible and we are dealing with professional editors here.

UNLESS one of us boardies became a "friend" of Josh on his snapchat before he turned it private and saw Andi Dorfman as a chatter - it is still not proof.

Therefore I am dismissing MOST of the clues - none of them are a picture of a Kite on her fridge.

As to my original post agreeing with what Albean has said. We have seen Josh twice in Cancum (a sighting via twitter on the plane there and then an actual photograph at the airport 6 days later) and that is the only proof we have. He could have been on BIP that is speculation and since he has been flirting with Marcus recently we questioned whether they had gone closer while on BIP together. Again this is mere speculation. Having said that, we still don't have 100% proof of Marcus on BIP. It is possible that he was there but no proof no believe.

The way some posters post here as though they have watched all the episodes, the finale and the ATFR already is nothing but amusing   . Or perhaps an irritant to some.
Just explaining myself.

[bilolo]

"We have seen Josh twice in Cancum and that is the only proof we have"
Nd the one with a red shirt and headphones on and what else ?

Do you believe Marcus could be final 1 too ?

[Litta123]

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My Twitter feed is in EST, and the time stamp says 8:24 PM.  So, I don't know?

This is my experience with twitter and Iconosquare (a viewing place for instagram) -- all times shown are based on your (the user's/the observer's) settings. For example, I live in the CT zone. My ipad/iphone/computer is set to this. Thus when I look at twitter, all times listed are based on my time zone. I tested it with iconosquare. It works the same way. (See my examples below as I tested both twitter and iconosquare with changing my time settings.)

So what I conclude is that, no matter what, the point of reference should always be the time zone of your settings as to when something is posted. We had an issue with this during RFL. The poster who lived also in CST was seeing a different time than I was. She later realized her settings on twitter were for EST. Anyway, all I can say is that this has been my experience. Is it possible that your settings accidentally changed?

My twitter feed of Andi's pic after I change the time zones.



Instagram on iconsosquare...



So what does this mean? The photos were posted (not necessarily taken) during the time frame above. If Andi was in the midwest, use the CST listed. If Andi was in the east, use the EST as a point of reference. Since the instagram/iconsquare photo chronologically came first, those are the times that should be considered when comparing to the sunset times.

[nd4reality]

"We have seen Josh twice in Cancum and that is the only proof we have"
Nd the one with a red shirt and headphones on and what else ?

Do you believe Marcus could be final 1 too ?

OK I'll go correct my post.

A tourist saw him on a plane to Cancum and then we had a picture of him at the cancum airport 6 days later. Sorry.

As for Marcus - can I take a rain check ? Till last episode Brussels I would not have dreamt that he was going to be eliminated at F4 so what do I know.

[Al]

nd4reality, to respond to your thought about Josh possibly being on BiP and seeing Marcus, I really didn't get that impression from the tweets. Josh tweeted "...we have some catching up to do my friend", which made me think they had not seen each other in a while.

[bilolo]

So when all this is over and the spoilers become right, what will we take from it spoiler-wise ?

[nd4reality]

So when all this is over and the spoilers become right, what will we take from it spoiler-wise ?

Never stop sleuthing ?

IDK otherwise what would be the point if all we have to do is go by what RS says ?

I myself will be on the non spoiled section in future. For as long as I can hold out. Last season was way more fun figuring out that Clare could not be F1.

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