Re: The Bachelorette 10 - *Final 1-F2* - Speculation * Sleuthing - Spoilers Thread #2

[Kaltie]

I feel like a dunderhead. I just realized why Chris B's scene was so important to the edit. It will parallel Nick's as the one who brings flowers will be the one rejected. They might have handed it to us on a silver platter.[/quote

Now that is a thought.  This editing can drive a person to drinking.

Good one......!   

[Beagle]

^^^ I do believe that the leads are coached before they begin the media to- coached to emphasize certain things over others to make the outcome confused.  Yes, we've seen many of the qualities she talks about in her interactions with Nick, and perhaps we haven't seen them so much with Josh.  But that doesn't mean that she didn't have those sort of interactions with Josh or any of the other fellows.  We just don't know because we only see what tptb want us to see.

Agreed.  Based only on what they've shown, Nick is front runner, then Josh, then Marcus IMO.  She likes Nick...she's expressed they have intellectual, emotional, and physical chemistry.  While Josh is mostly physical chemistry, she does have have the look of contentment. She seems to have emotional and physical chemistry with Marcus, just not as much as she has w Nick.

And, keep in mind that Farmer Chris is still in the running too! I had initially discounted him as being kept to F4 in case fans responded positively to him and he could slide into Bachelor spot. But the editing thread changed my mind. We really have not seen much of Andi's and Chris' interactions beyond that first dull date. Who knows ... maybe she is connecting with him on an intellectual level as well. After all WetPaint says Chris'  job titles on LinkedIn are Farmland Investment Specialist, Farm Management at Summit Farms, and Farming at Soules Farm and he's a college grad so he must have some smarts.  

Chris is the millionaire farmer according to Chris Harrison and RS also said he was loaded. He is not just a farmer, he is well educated and owns a lot a land. Next Bachelor material for sure.

[nannymargie]

Chris lives in a very small town and after living in Atlanta I do not think Andi will adjust to that.

[umngirl]

^^^ I do believe that the leads are coached before they begin the media to- coached to emphasize certain things over others to make the outcome confused.  Yes, we've seen many of the qualities she talks about in her interactions with Nick, and perhaps we haven't seen them so much with Josh.  But that doesn't mean that she didn't have those sort of interactions with Josh or any of the other fellows.  We just don't know because we only see what tptb want us to see.

Agreed.  Based only on what they've shown, Nick is front runner, then Josh, then Marcus IMO.  She likes Nick...she's expressed they have intellectual, emotional, and physical chemistry.  While Josh is mostly physical chemistry, she does have have the look of contentment. She seems to have emotional and physical chemistry with Marcus, just not as much as she has w Nick.

And, keep in mind that Farmer Chris is still in the running too! I had initially discounted him as being kept to F4 in case fans responded positively to him and he could slide into Bachelor spot. But the editing thread changed my mind. We really have not seen much of Andi's and Chris' interactions beyond that first dull date. Who knows ... maybe she is connecting with him on an intellectual level as well. After all WetPaint says Chris'  job titles on LinkedIn are Farmland Investment Specialist, Farm Management at Summit Farms, and Farming at Soules Farm and he's a college grad so he must have some smarts.  

Chris is the millionaire farmer according to Chris Harrison and RS also said he was loaded. He is not just a farmer, he is well educated and owns a lot a land. Next Bachelor material for sure.

Their farming operation is very, very successful. My brother works in agriculture in Iowa and immediately knew about their farm when I asked about it. Loaded for sure.

[MVMom39forever]

Chris lives in a very small town and after living in Atlanta I do not think Andi will adjust to that.

Yes ...  I agree about 98 percent, which is why I initially discounted him as her F1.

However, Andi might fall in love with the IDEA of living on a ginormous and successful farm with millionaire Farmer Chris in the Bach'ette Bubble if they have right physical/intellectual connection. Whether that love lasts in real world is a whole other issue.

[jcrbil]

TPTB call him a farmer, but he (and his family) are in agribusiness This is a big, sophisticated operation which no doubt uses the financial markets to manage risks, etc.

[notarose]

TPTB call him a farmer, but he (and his family) are in agribusiness  This is a big, sophisticated operation which no doubt uses the financial markets to manage risks, etc.

Yes, from what I understand he is a cooperate farmer which makes him a businessman.

[stuckinsc]

TPTB call him a farmer, but he (and his family) are in agribusiness  This is a big, sophisticated operation which no doubt uses the financial markets to manage risks, etc.

Yes, from what I understand he is a cooperate farmer which makes him a businessman.

It isn't the farmer part that bugs me, I think Chris is very intelligent and he has really grown on me. It is Andi, I don't see MeAndi enjoying living in a small town and I looked up Arlington, IA it is small.

I think Chicago has a chance, but nope MeAndi doesn't scream happy to be a small town girl to me.

[notarose]

TPTB call him a farmer, but he (and his family) are in agribusiness  This is a big, sophisticated operation which no doubt uses the financial markets to manage risks, etc.

Yes, from what I understand he is a cooperate farmer which makes him a businessman.

It isn't the farmer part that bugs me, I think Chris is very intelligent and he has really grown on me.  It is Andi, I don't see MeAndi enjoying living in a small town and I looked up Arlington, IA it is small.

I think Chicago has a chance, but nope MeAndi doesn't scream happy to be a small town girl to me.

    I'm not really seeing her in that lifestyle either however he seems quite impressive so if she fell in love with him then I think they would work something out.  So far, as great as he seems, I'm not seeing enough of them together. I think he would enjoy her best qualities and be able to handle her worst but would rather see him with someone who has a temperament similar to his own. Really though, people fall in love with whoever they want.
I'd really like seeing him as the next Bachelor.  I think as easy going as he is he also wouldn't put up with drama queens.

[black_tears]

TPTB call him a farmer, but he (and his family) are in agribusiness  This is a big, sophisticated operation which no doubt uses the financial markets to manage risks, etc.

Yes, from what I understand he is a cooperate farmer which makes him a businessman.

It isn't the farmer part that bugs me, I think Chris is very intelligent and he has really grown on me.  It is Andi, I don't see MeAndi enjoying living in a small town and I looked up Arlington, IA it is small.

I think Chicago has a chance, but nope MeAndi doesn't scream happy to be a small town girl to me.

    I'm not really seeing her in that lifestyle either however he seems quite impressive so if she fell in love with him then I think they would work something out.  So far, as great as he seems, I'm not seeing enough of them together. I think he would enjoy her best qualities and be able to handle her worst but would rather see him with someone who has a temperament similar to his own. Really though, people fall in love with whoever they want.
I'd really like seeing him as the next Bachelor.  I think as easy going as he is he also wouldn't  put up with drama queens.

Thus far Chris seems too nice and even keeled for me to want Andi to be with him.   

[MiaHawk]

Andi argues/debates/confronts for a living. I think it is a part of her make- up.

When Juan Pablo would not engage in her debating and he attempted to appease her concerns or to defuse her by saying "It's okay" it infuriated Andi.

Andi interprets engaging in an argument/ debate/ confrontation as being interested enough to fight for something. If a guy is more laid back and takes a quieter, more passive approach, she will see it as his lack of interest and lack of investment in the relationship.

Chris and Marcus are least likely to force an issue with Andi and press her to debate an issue or confront her about something during this process. That's why she will let them go first.

Nick is likely to engage Andi in a verbal duel, but in, perhaps, a sarcastic or snarky way. Which will show Andi he is invested yet still guarded.

Josh will be the one to engage/argue/confront Andi, and she will interpret it as his commitment to her. And because she is sexually attracted to him, his aggressiveness will be seen as passion.

However, I have noticed that when Andi wants to debate, she also wants her man to debate (Juan Pablo), but if she herself is not interested in a debate (Eric), she will want to shutdown any argument from the man.

In real life, she will need a partner who will be able to mold his debate style to hers ( because I do not feel she is willing to change this aspect of herself as it is part of her personality which focuses on "justice" and standing up for what she believes in, etc). It is my opinion that a man with a more temperate personality (Chris, Marcus, Nick) would fit better for the long haul, while a man that appears to be more volatile and hot headed (Josh) may not be able to bite his tongue around Andi when he should in order to make peace.

Since communication is key to a longlasting relationship, I cannot help but think that arguing style compatibility is crucial. Jmho.

[stuckinsc]

Andi argues/debates/confronts for a living.  I think it is a part of her make- up.  

When Juan Pablo would not engage in her debating and he attempted to appease her concerns or to defuse her by saying "It's okay" it infuriated Andi.  

Andi interprets engaging in an argument/ debate/ confrontation as being interested enough to fight for something.  If a guy is more laid back and takes a quieter, more passive approach, she will see it as his lack of interest and lack of investment in the relationship.

Chris and Marcus are least likely to force an issue with Andi and press her to debate an issue or confront her about something during this process.  That's why she will let them go first.

Nick is likely to engage Andi in a verbal duel, but in, perhaps, a sarcastic or snarky way.  Which will show Andi he is invested yet still guarded.

Josh will be the one to engage/argue/confront Andi, and she will interpret it as his commitment to her.  And because she is sexually attracted to him, his aggressiveness will be seen as passion.  

However, I have noticed that when Andi wants to debate, she also wants her man to debate (Juan Pablo), but if she herself is not interested in a debate (Eric), she will want to shutdown any argument from the man.  

In real life, she will need a partner who will be able to mold his debate style to hers ( because I do not feel she is willing to change this aspect of herself as it is part of her personality which focuses on "justice" and standing up for what she believes in, etc).  It is my opinion that a man with a more temperate personality (Chris, Marcus, Nick) would fit better for the long haul, while a man that appears to be more volatile and hot headed (Josh) may not be able to bite his tongue around Andi when he should in order to make peace.  

Since communication is key to a longlasting relationship, I cannot help but think that arguing style compatibility is crucial.  Jmho.

Mia, I agree. My hubby is a calm person and really doesn't argue, it pissed me off at first as I come from a yell it all out kind of family. I have adjusted and find that I like the calmness he brings to me and has helped to bring out in me.

I don't know if Andi is either old enough or mature enough to appreciate this.

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