Re: The Bachelorette 10 - *Final 1-F2* - Speculation * Sleuthing - Spoilers Thread #2

[notarose]

But when he brought flowers it was episode 4…..how could they have known he'd be the rejected F2?

I think it depends if you believe the rumor Nick the skeptic was carried to F-2 because they wanted to make him believe. When was that determination made? If it was around HTD's there is plenty of time to edit it in. Hy was brought in for a purpose but the editors decided to go a different way and use Chris B. footage. Why? I think the flower symbolism might be why. Just a thought.

    Many were baffled as to how Chris' obviously fake scenes would be more important than the deleted scenes with Hy.  Glad you brought this mystery to the forefront once again.

What do you think it means in terms of purpose or message?

[Rosepetal]

But when he brought flowers it was episode 4…..how could they have known he'd be the rejected F2?

I think it depends if you believe the rumor Nick the skeptic was carried to F-2 because they wanted to make him believe. When was that determination made? If it was around HTD's there is plenty of time to edit it in. Hy was brought in for a purpose but the editors decided to go a different way and use Chris B. footage. Why? I think the flower symbolism might be why. Just a thought.

    Many were baffled as to how Chris' obviously fake scenes would be more important than the deleted scenes with Hy.  Glad you brought this mystery to the forefront once again.

What do you think it means in terms of purpose or message?

At this point I don't know what it means except to me the gesture of sending flowers shows Nick is chasing Andi. Thoughts

[notarose]

But when he brought flowers it was episode 4…..how could they have known he'd be the rejected F2?

I think it depends if you believe the rumor Nick the skeptic was carried to F-2 because they wanted to make him believe. When was that determination made? If it was around HTD's there is plenty of time to edit it in. Hy was brought in for a purpose but the editors decided to go a different way and use Chris B. footage. Why? I think the flower symbolism might be why. Just a thought.

    Many were baffled as to how Chris' obviously fake scenes would be more important than the deleted scenes with Hy.  Glad you brought this mystery to the forefront once again.

What do you think it means in terms of purpose or message?

At this point I don't know what it means except to me the gesture of sending flowers shows Nick is chasing Andi. Thoughts

Agree. If the flowers weren't real at least the note was. He is a confident understated type of pursuer. Not really typical for the show. Before his 1-1 he said the date was important because he needed to know if it was worth being there, if she was someone he saw potential with. I think the flower/note meant that he saw some potential and wasn't going to be limited by the confines of the show.

[bilolo]

Someone posted a Q&A Andi did and one of her answer was about how things have now changed and a girl can chase a guy instead of what we're used to (guy chasing girl). Don't you think that there's a case like that on the show and if yes with whom ?

[foodie]

Someone posted a Q&A Andi did and one of her answer was about how things have now changed and a girl can chase a guy instead of what we're used to (guy chasing girl). Don't you think that there's a case like that on the show and if yes with whom ?

Is it possible if you could bring that posting here?

[bilolo]

Someone posted a Q&A Andi did and one of her answer was about how things have now changed and a girl can chase a guy instead of what we're used to (guy chasing girl). Don't you think that there's a case like that on the show and if yes with whom ?

Is it possible if you could bring that posting here?

I forgot where it was posted but if i recall correctly it was jen (Andi avi) who posted it and said her answers described Nick more than Josh.

[nannymargie]

[quote="Rosepetal"]I feel like a dunderhead. I just realized why Chris B's scene was so important to the edit. It will parallel Nick's as the one who brings flowers will be the one rejected. They might have handed it to us on a silver platter.[/quote

Now that is a thought. This editing can drive a person to drinking.

[bilolo]

Someone posted a Q&A Andi did and one of her answer was about how things have now changed and a girl can chase a guy instead of what we're used to (guy chasing girl). Don't you think that there's a case like that on the show and if yes with whom ?

Is it possible if you could bring that posting here?

it's on page 7 here

Here are some of Andi's answers to a conference call she participated in after she had completed filming. I thought they may give some clues to who is the F1.

IMO based on what we've seen in episodes 1 - 4 the answers describe Nick more than Josh.

I wanted casting to pick people that I might not ordinarily meet in everyday life, or I might not ordinarily date, you know, as far as the types of guys I've dated in the past.

I'm looking for a guy that's strong and confident but he's also able to be vulnerable and to share his emotions with me. I think communication is something I was definitely looking for in a guy coming into this.

I'm really just looking for somebody that's kind and that I get along with and somebody that kind of completes me.

I am definitely looking for intellectual chemistry. I want that physical chemistry, that mental connection.

I think traditionally, we are used to a man approaching a woman, but you know, this is a new era. This is a day in dating, and I think the woman can step up to the guy too. You know, it works both ways, and I think ultimately, whether or not the woman approaches the guy or the guy goes after the girl, if there is that love, if there is that connection, then it's going to work

I came here to go on this journey to find love, and if love means going somewhere else and that's the only way to do it, then I'm open to that.

[foodie]

Thanks bilolo!

[jcrbil]

^^^ I do believe that the leads are coached before they begin the media to- coached to emphasize certain things over others to make the outcome confused. Yes, we've seen many of the qualities she talks about in her interactions with Nick, and perhaps we haven't seen them so much with Josh. But that doesn't mean that she didn't have those sort of interactions with Josh or any of the other fellows. We just don't know because we only see what tptb want us to see.

[b]

^^^ I do believe that the leads are coached before they begin the media to- coached to emphasize certain things over others to make the outcome confused.  Yes, we've seen many of the qualities she talks about in her interactions with Nick, and perhaps we haven't seen them so much with Josh.  But that doesn't mean that she didn't have those sort of interactions with Josh or any of the other fellows.  We just don't know because we only see what tptb want us to see.

Agreed.  Based only on what they've shown, Nick is front runner, then Josh, then Marcus IMO.  She likes Nick...she's expressed they have intellectual, emotional, and physical chemistry.  While Josh is mostly physical chemistry, she does have have the look of contentment. She seems to have emotional and physical chemistry with Marcus, just not as much as she has w Nick.

[MVMom39forever]

^^^ I do believe that the leads are coached before they begin the media to- coached to emphasize certain things over others to make the outcome confused.  Yes, we've seen many of the qualities she talks about in her interactions with Nick, and perhaps we haven't seen them so much with Josh.  But that doesn't mean that she didn't have those sort of interactions with Josh or any of the other fellows.  We just don't know because we only see what tptb want us to see.

Agreed.  Based only on what they've shown, Nick is front runner, then Josh, then Marcus IMO.  She likes Nick...she's expressed they have intellectual, emotional, and physical chemistry.  While Josh is mostly physical chemistry, she does have have the look of contentment. She seems to have emotional and physical chemistry with Marcus, just not as much as she has w Nick.

And, keep in mind that Farmer Chris is still in the running too! I had initially discounted him as being kept to F4 in case fans responded positively to him and he could slide into Bachelor spot. But the editing thread changed my mind. We really have not seen much of Andi's and Chris' interactions beyond that first dull date. Who knows ... maybe she is connecting with him on an intellectual level as well. After all WetPaint says Chris' job titles on LinkedIn are Farmland Investment Specialist, Farm Management at Summit Farms, and Farming at Soules Farm and he's a college grad so he must have some smarts.

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