Bachelorette 10: Edit-Storyline - *SPOILERS* - should we bother? Oooohhhh... why not?
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Re: Bachelorette 10: Edit-Storyline - *SPOILERS* - should we bother? Oooohhhh... why not?
eBeagle wrote:Mura, what about the possibility that Nick was lying to the person on the phone because TPTB instructed him to make people believe that he is F2? Im not talking about the person filming him, but the actual person on the phone. It's a long shot because he does sound very authentic talking, but he was just following the rules? I still think he is F2, but just throwing the possibility out there.
why would he?...they could have easily set a producer on the line feeding him some faux questions so it would look natural . Come to think of it..there is no way in the world Nick could hold a poker face...so perhaps thats why we dont get to see his facial expressions?
one thing stood out for me as weird is : why the heck Nick didnt catch someone recording him in the back when he turned to the woman and saying sorry?. i mean, human eyes are not like chicken' eyes.. :P ..we have more view ranges...(if you know what i mean...)
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foodie wrote:Another clue we can't forget is on the first night when they showed Josh getting out of the limo, the background music changed, which kind of hinted there is something special about him. The same thing happened when JP got out of the limo in Ashley's season
I do agree there is a mountain of clues that cannot be overlooked, pointing to Josh. But maybe there is that little .001% that EVIL PRODUCTION (stealing from Sharleen ) used their power on this one.
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Re: Bachelorette 10: Edit-Storyline - *SPOILERS* - should we bother? Oooohhhh... why not?
^ If I had to guess, the person recording is probably using their cell phone. You can easily record someone on your iPhone and the person wouldn't have the slightest clue. You would just hold your phone as if you were using it browsing the internet, etc.
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Re: Bachelorette 10: Edit-Storyline - *SPOILERS* - should we bother? Oooohhhh... why not?
murasaki1393 wrote:eBeagle wrote:Mura, what about the possibility that Nick was lying to the person on the phone because TPTB instructed him to make people believe that he is F2? Im not talking about the person filming him, but the actual person on the phone. It's a long shot because he does sound very authentic talking, but he was just following the rules? I still think he is F2, but just throwing the possibility out there.
why would he?...they could have easily set a producer on the line feeding him some faux questions so it would look natural . Come to think of it..there is no way in the world Nick could hold a poker face...so perhaps thats why we dont get to see his facial expressions?
one thing stood out for me as weird is : why the heck Nick didnt catch someone recording him in the back when he turned to the woman and saying sorry?. i mean, human eyes are not like chicken' eyes.. :P ..we have more view ranges...(if you know what i mean...)
I think you misunderstood me. Forget about the person filming Nick for a moment. Lets say Nick was talking to a friend on the phone and the friend asked him about the outcome, he could have told the friend that Josh was F1 because he is not suppose to reveal the real outcome. He was following TPTB rules, maybe he only told his parents the real outcome.
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Re: Bachelorette 10: Edit-Storyline - *SPOILERS* - should we bother? Oooohhhh... why not?
murasaki1393 wrote:nutty1 wrote:Thanks! I'll be sure to keep up with your thoughts.
As far as the video of Nick goes.....doesn't it seem very real to you?
I think that lady was complaining about him talking loudly but I think she'd be near the person recording him? Yet we couldn't hear her as well. Maybe I'm just tired and confused. If you watch it again, tell me where you think the recording person was. When he turned to say sorry to the lady, wouldn't he see her/him?
the video had drive me :pullouthair: . i finaly gave up my analysis on that!..
but then again, after take a deep breath, i (and perhaps all the Chrisvillers) can remember well this is the same TPTB that made Chris handing out roses to a bunch of girls in Seattle (w Elan) which made a lot of us (Except me..hehe) think he was filming a segment of his intro as next Bachelor. Then just about california90 was ready to submit her application to be one of Chris's contestants , he put a ring on Des's finger!
we know Nick has faved one of Elan pic with a girl saying ' The one that got away'. who knows if that means anything?
i officially develop a hate/love relationship with this show! :why:
That video I making me I see some strong points against it and for it.
Mura I remember everyone saying that Chris was too heartbroken to face Des at the ATFR, so he was filming something in Seattle to say he was fine and moving on, handing out roses. Nothing ever came of that, or why they filmed it.. I remember they allowed people to tweet pics of Chris giving girls roses. The only thing that makes sense now is that is was to support the foiler. I can see them doing something like that this time with the video.
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Re: Bachelorette 10: Edit-Storyline - *SPOILERS* - should we bother? Oooohhhh... why not?
Beagle wrote:murasaki1393 wrote:Beagle wrote:Mura, what about the possibility that Nick was lying to the person on the phone because TPTB instructed him to make people believe that he is F2? Im not talking about the person filming him, but the actual person on the phone. It's a long shot because he does sound very authentic talking, but he was just following the rules? I still think he is F2, but just throwing the possibility out there.
why would he?...they could have easily set a producer on the line feeding him some faux questions so it would look natural . Come to think of it..there is no way in the world Nick could hold a poker face...so perhaps thats why we dont get to see his facial expressions?
one thing stood out for me as weird is : why the heck Nick didnt catch someone recording him in the back when he turned to the woman and saying sorry?. i mean, human eyes are not like chicken' eyes.. :P ..we have more view ranges...(if you know what i mean...)
I think you misunderstood me. Forget about the person filming Nick for a moment. Lets say Nick was talking to a friend on the phone and the friend asked him about the outcome, he could have told the friend that Josh was F1 because he is not suppose to reveal the real outcome. He was following TPTB rules, maybe he only told his parents the real outcome.
considering Nick as a genuine guy, i truly doubt that. he could easily avoid to answer by saying : just wait and see man!
Chris's closest friends and co-workers didnt know the outcome, they even consoled him (being a heartbroken F2 that he was ) until the finale :giggle:
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brittany4400 wrote:murasaki1393 wrote:nutty1 wrote:Thanks! I'll be sure to keep up with your thoughts.
As far as the video of Nick goes.....doesn't it seem very real to you?
I think that lady was complaining about him talking loudly but I think she'd be near the person recording him? Yet we couldn't hear her as well. Maybe I'm just tired and confused. If you watch it again, tell me where you think the recording person was. When he turned to say sorry to the lady, wouldn't he see her/him?
the video had drive me :pullouthair: . i finaly gave up my analysis on that!..
but then again, after take a deep breath, i (and perhaps all the Chrisvillers) can remember well this is the same TPTB that made Chris handing out roses to a bunch of girls in Seattle (w Elan) which made a lot of us (Except me..hehe) think he was filming a segment of his intro as next Bachelor. Then just about california90 was ready to submit her application to be one of Chris's contestants , he put a ring on Des's finger!
we know Nick has faved one of Elan pic with a girl saying ' The one that got away'. who knows if that means anything?
i officially develop a hate/love relationship with this show! :why:
That video I making me I see some strong points against it and for it.
Mura I remember everyone saying that Chris was too heartbroken to face Des at the ATFR, so he was filming something in Seattle to say he was fine and moving on, handing out roses. Nothing ever came of that, or why they filmed it.. I remember they allowed people to tweet pics of Chris giving girls roses. The only thing that makes sense now is that is was to support the foiler. I can see them doing something like that this time with the video.
true dat!!... . Lets not forget Nick is close with Elan just as Chris accompanied by Elan on that Seattle fool. was he Nick's handler?
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Beagle wrote:murasaki1393 wrote:eBeagle wrote:Mura, what about the possibility that Nick was lying to the person on the phone because TPTB instructed him to make people believe that he is F2? Im not talking about the person filming him, but the actual person on the phone. It's a long shot because he does sound very authentic talking, but he was just following the rules? I still think he is F2, but just throwing the possibility out there.
why would he?...they could have easily set a producer on the line feeding him some faux questions so it would look natural . Come to think of it..there is no way in the world Nick could hold a poker face...so perhaps thats why we dont get to see his facial expressions?
one thing stood out for me as weird is : why the heck Nick didnt catch someone recording him in the back when he turned to the woman and saying sorry?. i mean, human eyes are not like chicken' eyes.. :P ..we have more view ranges...(if you know what i mean...)
I think you misunderstood me. Forget about the person filming Nick for a moment. Lets say Nick was talking to a friend on the phone and the friend asked him about the outcome, he could have told the friend that Josh was F1 because he is not suppose to reveal the real outcome. He was following TPTB rules, maybe he only told his parents the real outcome.
You bring up a good point. I could see Nick trying to pull one over on his friends and letting it be a big surprise for them in the end. I did notice that he laughed when saying those things about Josh.
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Just my thoughts - RS was wrong last season. He knows if he's wrong two seasons in a row then he loses a good chunk of his credibility, especially with the bachelorette. He doesn't want that. RS can't afford for that to happen again. He released that video a good chunk of time after he got it. I would be shocked if that guy didn't really look into the source that was giving it to him and what not.
I'm not saying there isn't a chance Nick isn't her F1. It's a two man race in my opinion between Nick and Josh. It's pretty obvious to me even this early on in the season, but it's hard for me to argue that those videos aren't legit.
I'm not saying there isn't a chance Nick isn't her F1. It's a two man race in my opinion between Nick and Josh. It's pretty obvious to me even this early on in the season, but it's hard for me to argue that those videos aren't legit.
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My point is that the videos are legit, except the person filming the videos is not aware that Nick could very well be lying to his lets say friend on the phone because he is not suppose to reveal the real outcome to anyone, not even his friend. In this case scenario, Nick does not even know anyone is filming him.
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Beagle wrote:My point is that the videos are legit, except the person filming the videos is not aware that Nick could very well be lying to his lets say friend on the phone because he is not suppose to reveal the real outcome to anyone, not even his friend. In this case scenario, Nick does not even know anyone is filming him.
Exactly. Why be fined a million dollars or whatever it is? That's the odd bit. He placed the call to whoever because no one would know he has his phone back. He is in a plane surrounded by people. He will be in a airport (more private) and later home. This could simply be ABSOLUTELY TRUE or Nick playing a prank on a friend or sibling - not intended for any other use. Any part that would reveal the real outcome could be false.
Critical is verification of the filming date of the FRC and the date of this flight.
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notarose wrote:Beagle wrote:My point is that the videos are legit, except the person filming the videos is not aware that Nick could very well be lying to his lets say friend on the phone because he is not suppose to reveal the real outcome to anyone, not even his friend. In this case scenario, Nick does not even know anyone is filming him.
Exactly. Why be fined a million dollars or whatever it is? That's the odd bit. He placed the call to whoever because no one would know he has his phone back. He is in a plane surrounded by people. He will be in a airport (more private) and later home. This could simply be ABSOLUTELY TRUE or Nick playing a prank on a friend or sibling - not intended for any other use. Any part that would reveal the real outcome could be false.
Critical is verification of the filming date of the FRC and the date of this flight.
Agreed. Did you check out the discussion in the other thread (I think Nick's)? I provided some RS tweets which seem to verify that he received the tape on May 11th. I believe the date of the FRC was verified by several sources.
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