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Post by GrahamGal Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:43 pm

Peppermom wrote:Wow GG.  Wish I had seen that preview.  So much to consider. From the wording it does sound like the F2 wrote the letter.  What would be the point in giving it to her at the MTA though?  If it seemed like a dressing room and not a hotel, I think the MTA makes the most sense.  One other thought is it was given to her before the AFTR taping.  Did they tape that yet?  If not, then I guess it can't be then.  I'm leaning towards it is all hype and not something that will really make any difference.  I don't see why F2, no matter which one, would send her a letter.  They will be at the ATFR and can confront her then.  Unless the F2 doesn't intend to show up for that.  Would kind of mess up that episode.

One other thought, and I hesitate to mention it, is that Eric could have written it.  Maybe with the way he left, he didn't intend to come to the MTA and wrote a letter to Andi.  I can't believe that TPTB would sink so low as to air that letter, but, the family might want it aired if they felt it was a way for Eric to explain what he was trying to say.  Long shot and not really what I think happened with this.

I was thinking about Nick being manipulated by TPTB and wonder why he let it happen?  All indications from the guys are that Nick knew exactly how this show worked and what he would need to do to get to the end.  Why would he let them use him that way if he was so aware of how it all worked?  What would he get out of it?  Did he think he would be the bachelor and then decide he really cared about Andi?  That just really confuses me.  Did he think he was playing them and ended up being used instead?

I think your #2 scenario is most likely.  Did she say something about "this blowing up in her face" after the lie detector test in Italy?  Are they splicing and dicing from previous episodes?  Probably, or it has nothing to do with the letter at all!  I hope I get to see the preview.

First off, thanks AT for finding the commercial.

To the bolded points Pepper:

I don't think they usually tape the ATFR anymore.  When was the last time it wasn't live?

I though about the F2 not being at the ATFR, but why send the letter to the MTA and not the ATFR?  Seems really odd.  It also is not in a envelope so it doesn't appear it was mailed.  Maybe it was from one of the guys at the MTA, unless the rejected F2 was in CA.  So confused by this letter.

It could be a letter from Eric.  Maybe he was going to be out of the country when the MTA taped and unable to attend.  I'm just not sure they would use it for drama though. Plus it's not in an envelope.

If Nick was really the Bachelorette expert (not sure I believe that) maybe he thought it would give him an advantage over the others with Andi.  Although who has done the sneaking to see the lead and been the F1?  Anyone besides Courtney?

It is 100% sliced and diced.  I think it was from Italy, but it could have been a VO then too so who know.
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Post by Peppermom Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:50 pm

I hadn't thought about the ATFR being live. Good point. With Eric, I thought that maybe he had given the note to Chris before he left, or to production, to give to Andi later and they weren't sure what to do with it because of the accident. Like I said, probably not much chance of this.

I still think Nick was angling for Bachelor. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.


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Post by LibbyBell Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:03 pm

WHAT?!? ONLY SAW THE PREVIEWS OF THE MTA--- can't possibly be true!! Can't do this live but, had to chime in...this should be good!


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Post by LibbyBell Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:11 pm

Ok...just typical TPTB slice and dice!! giggling !!


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Post by in2deep Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:45 pm

IMO, there is so much chatter about JoDi that TPTB needed to instill something to provide drama, this time the dreaded and retreaded Thimble of Doubt™ . Yes, Cari, it's another new term!


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Post by LibbyBell Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:26 pm

Actually, it was in the "recap" of the MTA-- I'm positive it was splice and dice. I'll explain later-- don't want to say for you West Coasters! :-)


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Post by GrahamGal Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:06 pm

Enough with the produced drama. Ughhhh! No guys in suits though at the FRC so that tells me that it's not possible both guys go there. Otherwise why not show it?


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Post by GrahamGal Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:22 pm

I love that we saw at least one new thing in the pieces on the 2 final guys.


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Post by LibbyBell Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:46 am

Me too GG. I wanted to see/hear more of what Josh wrote! Re: the actual MTA content, I'm glad Andi didn't hear the report on the lie detector. It seems TPTB are really trying to screw with Andi and whether or not she can trust Josh. I think it is all a red herring and we will have a happy couple at the end...at least I hope so!!

ETA-- I thought it was ridiculous for CH to say Andi was pregnant! Has that truly been in the media?!? I've purposely been staying away from magazines so as not to spoil myself but, again, I thought it was ridiculous to even speculate!


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Post by Peppermom Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:36 am

I was really looking forward to a new preview with LCD dates and the guys dressed etc. I was so disappointed. I think there is something up with the finale too GG. I thought the MTA was even more of a waste than normal. In the preview posted by AT here, there is a shot of Andi with a pretty nasty look on her face and she puts her finger up, they didn't show that unless I missed it. It looked like there might have been some actual tension there that wasn't shown. Wonder what?


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Post by GrahamGal Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:47 am

Peppermom wrote:I was really looking forward to a new preview with LCD dates and the guys dressed etc.  I was so disappointed.  I think there is something up with the finale too GG.  I thought the MTA was even more of a waste than normal.  In the preview posted by AT here, there is a shot of Andi with a pretty nasty look on her face and she puts her finger up, they didn't show that unless I missed it.  It looked like there might have been some actual tension there that wasn't shown.  Wonder what?

Robyn from TV guide tweeted Patrick and Nick S got a little rude with Andi. of all people an F15 and an F11. In fact Patrick even tweeted he was mad they edited out all his stuff. I will tell you what he tweeted and then deleted in the thread for tweets as it could be a little spoilerish.
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Post by nannymargie Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:04 pm

GrahamGal wrote:
Peppermom wrote:I was really looking forward to a new preview with LCD dates and the guys dressed etc.  I was so disappointed.  I think there is something up with the finale too GG.  I thought the MTA was even more of a waste than normal.  In the preview posted by AT here, there is a shot of Andi with a pretty nasty look on her face and she puts her finger up, they didn't show that unless I missed it.  It looked like there might have been some actual tension there that wasn't shown.  Wonder what?

Robyn from TV guide tweeted Patrick and Nick S got a little rude with Andi.  of all people an F15 and an F11.  In fact Patrick even tweeted he was mad they edited out all his stuff.  I will tell you what he tweeted and then deleted in the thread for tweets as it could be a little spoilerish.

Peppermom, when Andi did that with her finger it was to CH and she said something about getting him back. It showed it toward the end of the show.
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