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Post by LibbyBell Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:10 pm

They were great! Interesting that Josh has 2 and the other is of Chris. I thought scenes both Josh and Chris (and the roses) were very sweet!
Thanks for thinking about us pander!
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Post by GrahamGal Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:37 pm

LibbyBell wrote:
Previews--Wow, there are a TON of voice overs and cutting back and forth from scenes! TPTB truly wanted to keep us guessing! GG, I see the spot you are talking about and I agree—there is no way to tell if the 2 scenes go together which usually means they don’t! Nick also says something about I glorified the relationship and I was lying to myself – could it be that is when she is letting F3 go and its Nick not Chris? GG, what points you in the direction of Chris going home as opposed to Nick? As far as the FS dates go, even though we only see Josh with a card, I think Chris at least has dinner and the FS card is what he is speaking of when he asks her “where is your gut, right now”? Regarding the voice overs with Josh: “it’s just too good to be true” and then, “every part of me feels like an idiot” I think have come from back in Italy in the ITM where she was crying and talking about not getting her fairytale.  I don’t believe ANY of the voice overs are indicative of the conversation that Josh and Andi actually had on their FS date.  I also think all the shots of Andi crying are from previous times in the season—I’d love to know if these have been compared to other crying shots of her earlier in the season and if any of them match up!

Sorry---I’m about to let my imagination run wild—could it be that she lets BOTH Chris and Nick go at this point so that she can focus on Josh and make sure that it isn’t too good to be true? Is that why everything is riding on tonight? The coral dress and Andi walking onto the balcony remind me of a “morning of the FRC” scene and prior to F3 RC—before getting dressed and when the bachelorette contemplates her coming day.

I'm going to touch on this first and then wait to tackle the rest once I finish rewatching the episode.

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After going through the preview and looking at SCs (Thanks Sophie!) I can no longer be 100% of anything going on in the preview as to who, or even if someone, goes home early this week.  I had a long post with SCs showing what I was seeing and it became so confusing it was even confusing me.  Now I don't know what to believe.  If I could capture a SC that would explain what I am seeing it would be helpful but I can't.  So here goes.  I am wondering when they show her crying first from the left profile and then from the right profile if those are from two different times.  The shots are so tight you can hardly see the dress on her shoulders.  When you view the scene of them showing the left profile of her crying, on her left shoulder it appears to be two white spaghetti straps about 1/2" apart with no material between them.  Then when you see it from the right profile the dress appears to have white piping with a satin like finish material.  While the satin material could be coral it's too hard to tell. It is also more off the shoulder.  Based on the shot of the coral dress it seems to be close to the neck, not off the shoulder. The ring is the same for both, but she seems to where that a lot, except for the formal RC.  Could she let one guy go early this week and another next week?  I guess unless we get some more clues we will just have to wait and see. (If I find SCs that would be useful to sleuth I will post them.)

What I posted above kind of goes to your second point.  I guess it could be both leave before this weeks RC, but I HIGHLY doubt TPTB would let her do that.
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Post by GrahamGal Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:50 pm

LibbyBell wrote:GG, is there anything specifically that points to Chris as F3 or just your gut? before yesterday's episode, I would have agreed with you but because of the preview I'm really wondering if Nick goes F 3....no idea
No it wasn't my gut, but as I mentioned in my last post I went back and am confused with what I am seeing.  I agree that after last episode you could make a case for Chris F2 and Nick F3, but I just have never really seen that passion.

Note:  Sorry ladies, I tried to do the multi-quote thing, but I have never been able to figure that out.
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Post by marriedtoabaritone Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:52 pm

I still love Chris, but I think she picks Josh. Why no sweet videos of Nick?


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Post by GrahamGal Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:54 pm

marriedtoabaritone wrote:Any chance the Nick previews are him explaining why his engagement didn't work out? I only watched it once, but I assumed it to be a red herring like the Chris quote about being a homemaker.
 I 100% believe Nick is talking about a relationship in the past.  Now whether TPTB show it that way or not is a totally different question, but I have no reason to believe he is talking about his relationship with Andi in that scene.
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Post by GrahamGal Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:58 pm

pander3575 wrote:http://abc.go.com/shows/the-bachelorette/video/PL5569765/VDKA0_axwkxxnz
There's three Josh family, Chris and Andi and Josh giving Andi the roses. Enjoy
Thanks for sharing.  I was just going to bring these over.  Love all 3 of them.


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Post by LibbyBell Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:07 pm

Thanks GG, I think it is highly improbable too but I was trying to think out of the box re: what the previews maybe showing. During the day at the beach with Nick, I could see him leaving after the discussion about lying to himself HOWEVER (just thought of this) it could be that Nick is telling Andi about his first engagement. TPTB would then not show any FS shots of them in an effort to make it seem like he leaves or is doubting his relationship with Andi.

I agree with you that the crying is at least 2 different times. When she's crying and facing left, if I recall correctly, she doesn't have an earring on, when looking to the right, she does.


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Post by Guest Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:09 pm

Great reading/posts all. 

Pander thanks for the link! Hadn't seen the goofy one either.  giggling I see she mentioned head/heart in the preview, she could've said that anytime. I'm still saying it's Josh as F1 (Heart), Nick F2 (Head) and Chris F3 (Bach).

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Post by LibbyBell Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:17 pm

GrahamGal wrote:
marriedtoabaritone wrote:Any chance the Nick previews are him explaining why his engagement didn't work out? I only watched it once, but I assumed it to be a red herring like the Chris quote about being a homemaker.
 I 100% believe Nick is talking about a relationship in the past.  Now whether TPTB show it that way or not is a totally different question, but I have no reason to believe he is talking about his relationship with Andi in that scene.

GG and married, I just now read this-- ITA with you both on this!
Lost-- I agree with you: Josh is her heart / Nick is her head


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Post by GrahamGal Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:26 pm

LibbyBell wrote:Thanks GG, I think it is highly improbable too but I was trying to think out of the box re: what the previews maybe showing. During the day at the beach with Nick, I could see him leaving after the discussion about lying to himself HOWEVER (just thought of this) it could be that Nick is telling Andi about his first engagement. TPTB would then not show any FS shots of them in an effort to make it seem like he leaves or is doubting his relationship with Andi.

I agree with you that the crying is at least 2 different times. When she's crying and facing left,  if I recall correctly, she doesn't have an earring on, when looking to the right, she does.

When you see the left profile you don't see her ear so we have no idea if she had one on or not.
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Post by LibbyBell Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:35 pm

Sorry GG I thought I remembered seeing a naked earlobe. I guess I noticed it earlier in the episode. I can't go back and re-watch right now; sorry for my confusion.


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Post by GrahamGal Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:37 pm

Lost17 wrote:Great reading/posts all. 

Pander thanks for the link! Hadn't seen the goofy one either.  giggling I see she mentioned head/heart in the preview, she could've said that anytime. I'm still saying it's Josh as F1 (Heart), Nick F2 (Head) and Chris F3 (Bach).

I see where both Nick and Chris could be her head, but only one has her heart and that is what is most important. If they haven't captured her heart by now it doesn't matter what her head is saying. However, I believe that once she staaaps overthinking things with Josh he will have her head and her heart. In order for her relationship with her F1 to survive they will need to have both her head and her heart.

BTW - I agree that she likely said it long ago and it could be about any of the men.
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