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Post by Eagle Eye Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:00 am

lurker11 wrote:The way the author phrased the whole thing seemed over the top.... but she was that way describing Chris in the coffee shop as well...
Well, exactly. All the gushing and fawning she was doing about Chris Harrison has me seriously questioning her judgement and makes the entire article suspect, IMO.

But if we do believe the author when she says that Andi rolled her eyes after Nick left the stage, then do we also believe her when she says the following:

Harrison, warm and reassuring, welcomed him to the stage and listened as Nick explained that he just wanted some closure. During the commercial break, Nick half-waved to the guys in the front row. They fake-smiled at him and smirked to one another, a page right out of the playbook from my all-girls high school.
She's claiming that Brian and Chris mean-girled Nick when he waved to them. Aren't Brian and Chris good friends with Nick? Weren't they all buddy-buddy with him after filming wrapped and vocal about what a great guy they thought he was? So why would they be fake-smiling at him and smirking to one another? I don't believe that they would, and it makes me doubtful about the veracity of the supposed eye-rolling incident, as well. 

california90 wrote:IA. It doesn't surprise me she would do that. It's obvious she doesn't want to be embarrassed on television. I can see her reacting like that to make herself feel better IMO. She is the person that needs for people to be on her side.
Just curious -- is there anyone who actively DOES want to be embarrassed on television? I'm pretty sure Andi's far from alone in that.

Ash2214 wrote:^ Of course we don't know them, but I would guess since there are people on the forum that don't like them, then they don't follow them here on the forum or on social media. If you do, you can get a small glimpse into their life just like you feel you probably have a glimpse into Nick's life since you don't know him either.
Actually, you might be surprised at the number of people who don't like them, but still follow them here on the forum and go so far as to check out their social media so they can leave negative comments. I personally couldn't imagine keeping such close tabs on someone I thought was a horrible person, but to each her own, I suppose.
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Post by Guest Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:16 am

Ash2214 wrote:^ I didn't say I was trying to convince you of anything. I was simply stating my opinions. Like you don't like Andi, I dislike Nick. His behavior during the show was a real turnoff for me and to see that he follows someone like Selma's teenage sister (who doesn't follow nick back and neither does Selma) who tends to post very revealing pictures of herself on IG is just even more of a turnoff for me. People don't like certain people. It's the way it goes. Differing opinions makes the world go round.

Yes, they do, ITA. I probably shouldn't follow what Andi and Josh do on SM (but I do) just as you probably shouldn't concern yourself with what Nick is doing on SM (as you obviously do as well). It is just a glimpse into their lives and doesn't define them, just as being on the show shouldn't completely define them. But we get attached to people and we invest our feelings and we hurt over them and we get angry over it, etc. etc. etc.  So here we are. Let's hope this silly franchise gives us lots of new people to fawn and fight over, whether it's bach/ette/paradise, and maybe we'll be friends instead of foes, who knows. I hope Monday night will be the start of us all moving on. Now how about a nice cuppa tea and some treats? Wish you were all here to join me.


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Post by soccermom333 Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:19 am

Eagle Eye wrote:
lurker11 wrote:The way the author phrased the whole thing seemed over the top.... but she was that way describing Chris in the coffee shop as well...
Well, exactly. All the gushing and fawning she was doing about Chris Harrison has me seriously questioning her judgement and makes the entire article suspect, IMO.

But if we do believe the author when she says that Andi rolled her eyes after Nick left the stage, then do we also believe her when she says the following:

Harrison, warm and reassuring, welcomed him to the stage and listened as Nick explained that he just wanted some closure. During the commercial break, Nick half-waved to the guys in the front row. They fake-smiled at him and smirked to one another, a page right out of the playbook from my all-girls high school.
She's claiming that Brian and Chris mean-girled Nick when he waved to them. Aren't Brian and Chris good friends with Nick? Weren't they all buddy-buddy with him after filming wrapped and vocal about what a great guy they thought he was? So why would they be fake-smiling at him and smirking to one another? I don't believe that they would, and it makes me doubtful about the veracity of the supposed eye-rolling incident, as well. 

california90 wrote:IA. It doesn't surprise me she would do that. It's obvious she doesn't want to be embarrassed on television. I can see her reacting like that to make herself feel better IMO. She is the person that needs for people to be on her side.
Just curious -- is there anyone who actively DOES want to be embarrassed on television? I'm pretty sure Andi's far from alone in that.

Ash2214 wrote:^ Of course we don't know them, but I would guess since there are people on the forum that don't like them, then they don't follow them here on the forum or on social media. If you do, you can get a small glimpse into their life just like you feel you probably have a glimpse into Nick's life since you don't know him either.
Actually, you might be surprised at the number of people who don't like them, but still follow them here on the forum and go so far as to check out their social media so they can leave negative comments. I personally couldn't imagine keeping such close tabs on someone I thought was a horrible person, but to each her own, I suppose.






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Post by lurker11 Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:20 am

I don't want to copy Eagle's whole post, but the author's comment about the other men smirking at him is odd.
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Post by Ash2214 Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:44 am

Cuppa_Realitea wrote:
Ash2214 wrote:^ I didn't say I was trying to convince you of anything. I was simply stating my opinions. Like you don't like Andi, I dislike Nick. His behavior during the show was a real turnoff for me and to see that he follows someone like Selma's teenage sister (who doesn't follow nick back and neither does Selma) who tends to post very revealing pictures of herself on IG is just even more of a turnoff for me. People don't like certain people. It's the way it goes. Differing opinions makes the world go round.

Yes, they do, ITA. I probably shouldn't follow what Andi and Josh do on SM (but I do) just as you probably shouldn't concern yourself with what Nick is doing on SM (as you obviously do as well). It is just a glimpse into their lives and doesn't define them, just as being on the show shouldn't completely define them. But we get attached to people and we invest our feelings and we hurt over them and we get angry over it, etc. etc. etc.  So here we are. Let's hope this silly franchise gives us lots of new people to fawn and fight over, whether it's bach/ette/paradise, and maybe we'll be friends instead of foes, who knows. I hope Monday night will be the start of us all moving on. Now how about a nice cuppa tea and some treats? Wish you were all here to join me.

You don't have to follow someone to find out who someone is following on IG, but I most certainly looked to see if Selma and her sister were following Nick back because I most definitely found that weird laugh out loud

Cheers to your last couple of sentences. I hope you have fun watching Chris' premiere Monday Smiley

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Post by SueSt Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:16 am

lurker11 wrote:I don't want to copy Eagle's whole post, but the author's comment about the other men smirking at him is odd.
Cody, Chris and Brian all expressed doubts/anger about Nick and how he handled himself ... both on the show and after in the press.  The smirking seems in line with these type of feelings.
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Post by SueSt Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:21 am

Cuppa_Realitea wrote:
SueSt wrote:

Sorry, none of us 'know' Josh and Andi. I also believe one of the reasons Andi choose Josh was b/c he was more comfortable with a celebrity lifestyle.  They may be attending charity events, but many 'celebrities' are paid for their attendence at charity functions.  We don't know if they are paid or not, regardless, they seem to enjoy the spotlight.  The fact that she gave up her career in law to hawk another celebrity lifestyle website does not impress me AT ALL. But, really, Andi's entitled to whatever choice she wants to make, no problems, but for me it all comes back to how HEARTLESS she was towards Nick at ATFR.... and as a result of her actions you will never convince me that she's anything but a horrible person.

In regard to the bolded statement above, NOR ME  bestbud!
Sorry, I 'd like to modify my statement, and it's a fine line, maybe - I'm not sure if Andi is a horrible person, but she did make horrible choices.
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Post by SueSt Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:36 am

Ash2214 wrote:^ I didn't say I was trying to convince you of anything. I was simply stating my opinions. Like you don't like Andi, I dislike Nick. His behavior during the show was a real turnoff for me and to see that he follows someone like Selma's teenage sister (who doesn't follow nick back and neither does Selma) who tends to post very revealing pictures of herself on IG is just even more of a turnoff for me. People don't like certain people. It's the way it goes. Differing opinions makes the world go round.

I don't know who "Selma and her sister" are... but posting revealing pictures on IG is not a crime, nor is a man appreciating a beautiful woman.
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Post by nannymargie Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:03 am

IMO Andi is not a horrible person but she does have a strong personality. According to Josh she is a loving and nurturing woman. Andi has only done what all the others leads in the past has done. The only difference is Nick could not accept that he wasn't the one. He may have been heart broken but his ego was crushed because he always thought he was the one. IMO he was way over confident and never thought Andi could have feelings for someone else.

I do not know how I would react to someone who I broke up with that still tried to talk to me knowing I was with someone else. Even after Nick wrote her that letter he was sure she would change her mind and go back to him. Nick even said it could be a new beginning for them. He just couldn't accept that she was in love with someone else.

I really feel that Andi should have told Nick that she was in love with Josh when she broke it off with him. She probably thought that would have been to harsh to say to him at the time and didn't want to hurt him more than she had to.

I was not impressed with the article at all and having CH dressed like cupid was really weird to me.


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Post by luvlady345 Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:44 am

I try not to read anything of CH because the whole franchise are very misogynist, I can't stand that little man.....  With that being said seriously, I don't care who like Andi or not I am secure in my feelings and my opinion of her as I am sure people who like Nick are not loosing sleep over my dislike of him.....  So here's to another Bachelor season where more women can be thrown under the bus and dragged threw the mud by TPTB and by their mostly large female viewing audience.....


 

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Post by SueSt Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:04 pm

nannymargie wrote:IMO Andi is not a horrible person but she does have  a strong personality.  According to Josh she is a loving and nurturing woman. Andi has only done what all the others leads in the past has done.  The only difference is Nick could not accept that he wasn't the one.  He may have been heart broken but his ego was crushed because he always thought he was the one. IMO he was way over confident and never thought Andi could have feelings for someone else.

I do not know how I would react to someone who I broke up with that still tried to talk to me knowing I was with someone else.  Even after Nick wrote her that letter he was sure she would change her mind and go back to him. Nick even said it could be a new beginning for them.  He just couldn't accept that she was in love with someone else.

I really feel that Andi should have told Nick that she was in love with Josh when she broke it off with him.  She probably thought that would have been to harsh to say to him at the time and didn't want to hurt him more than she had to.

I was not impressed with the article at all and having CH dressed like cupid was really weird to me.



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Nick only tried to contact Andi before ATFR and not after.  He could only assess his relationship with Andi based on the way she responded to him on the show; and based on what I saw, I believe his confidence was warranted...  and again, based on what I saw, I can understand Nick thinking that there was a chance that Andi was just confused or afraid.  The minute he came in contact with her cold, unempathetic behavior at ATFR he had no doubts and got his closure (and stopped trying to contact her).  ITA that Andi should have told Nick she was in love with Josh when she broke up with him or at ANY point before ATFR. 

But more importantly, to me at least, the fact that she did decide to sleep with Nick makes Andi responsible on some level for his feelings.  And at that point, to cut him off without a complete explanation, refuse to speak with him and then worse, to mock him, to me, is the height of immaturity, arrogance and heartlessness.
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Post by soccermom333 Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:08 pm

luvlady345 wrote:I try not to read anything of CH because the whole franchise are very misogynist, I can't stand that little man.....  With that being said seriously, I don't care who like Andi or not I am secure in my feelings and my opinion of her as I am sure people who like Nick are not loosing sleep over my dislike of him.....  So here's to another Bachelor season where more women can be thrown under the bus and dragged threw the mud by TPTB and by their mostly large female viewing audience.....



Well said.  clapping!   Some don't like Andi and will continue to say so over and over and over. No need to lose sleep over it.  Smiley
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