Andi Dorfman & Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 - General Discussion #2

stuckinsc wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:When was the last time there was a picture taken with J/A and the Murrays?

1 month ago

Do you have the link, I don't remember actually seeing them at the Troy game before the concert.  I didn't look at all the tailgating pics though.  The UGA Troy game was 9/20, so actually five weeks ago.  The UGA vs. TN game was the weekend with his family friends, if I am remembering correctly.

Ash2214 wrote:Steph posted a picture to her IG and it says from 4 weeks ago, which is a month. She posted a picture with her, Lauren, Dennis, Josh, and Andi and the caption read "Game day with the family" and she also added a heart to the caption.

GuardianAngel wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:Steph posted a picture to her IG and it says from 4 weeks ago, which is a month. She posted a picture with her, Lauren, Dennis, Josh, and Andi and the caption read "Game day with the family" and she also added a heart to the caption.

FLChica wrote:Stuckinsc thank you for the correction on the previous thread about the timeline for Andi's fantasy suite dates. So the correct order of events was:  Andi has sex with Nick in the FS, shuts down farmer Chris the next day and decides she is in love with Josh the day after on his trip to the FS.  Now that's an action packed three days!  

After Andi's continued mocking of JPG, I was pleasantly surprised that he defended her honor (so to speak) after the world learned she had sex with Nick.  That is the action of a man of honor and integrity - chivalrous, in fact.  I guess Josh feels differently.  

Oh well.  Not my circus, not my monkeys...

Ash2214 wrote:^ Here we go again. I remember when I was told repeatedly to drop the Nick thing.

Anyway, what Juan Pablo said to Clare is just one of the many things that he said or did that I didn't like. I was using that as an example. And yes, I do think it's funny that people dislike Andi for sleeping with Nick and Juan Pablo slept with at least two, perhaps even three women. I personally just think he's often very degrading to women, whether he's doing it purposely or not. Nikki doesn't seem like a walk in the park, but that doesn't excuse Juan Pablo.

Let's face it, Andi said numerous things to Nick. She told him she enjoyed their relationship and that it was a great relationship. If she were to do it all over again, she said she knew they would still have that same great relationship. She then stated that she didn't and never loved him, hence why she said she was careful to not say that to him which he agreed in that she never told him that. She also admitted her mistake and said she should have said it to him months ago. She then said there was nothing wrong with him or their relationship, just that she fell in love with someone else and that relationship was more right. What's wrong with stating she didn't love him? It's not like she said she didn't care about him. She told him the truth, which he needed to hear considering he wanted her back months after filming.

I don't like saying it, but people can have sex without being in love with someone. I also still don't have an issue with Andi's behavior on ATFR. Did people expect her to be affectionate with him, get close to him, and tell him she did love him at one point? For goodness sake the way Nick was acting - shaking, mumbling and not forming sentences had me worried. I wouldn't have known to handle it and for Andi - whether it was Nick or producers, she knew he wanted a second chance. There's no easy way to handle that situation while being engaged to someone else. No other lead had to deal with someone like Nick.

Andi wasn't innocent, but that doesn't mean Nick should have told everyone he had sex with her because I would bet my house that he knew she wasn't going to answer him. There was no need of that.

Stating you never loved someone isn't degrading. She just didn't fall in love with him. She made it pretty clear she cared about him. Saying I don't know you, but I love ******* you, well I find that degrading.

Also, in my personal opinion, this conversation about Nick has been beaten to death.

Laudergirl wrote:

Ash2214 wrote:^ Here we go again. I remember when I was told repeatedly to drop the Nick thing.

Anyway, what Juan Pablo said to Clare is just one of the many things that he said or did that I didn't like. I was using that as an example. And yes, I do think it's funny that people dislike Andi for sleeping with Nick and Juan Pablo slept with at least two, perhaps even three women. I personally just think he's often very degrading to women, whether he's doing it purposely or not. Nikki doesn't seem like a walk in the park, but that doesn't excuse Juan Pablo.

Let's face it, Andi said numerous things to Nick. She told him she enjoyed their relationship and that it was a great relationship. If she were to do it all over again, she said she knew they would still have that same great relationship. She then stated that she didn't and never loved him, hence why she said she was careful to not say that to him which he agreed in that she never told him that. She also admitted her mistake and said she should have said it to him months ago. She then said there was nothing wrong with him or their relationship, just that she fell in love with someone else and that relationship was more right. What's wrong with stating she didn't love him? It's not like she said she didn't care about him. She told him the truth, which he needed to hear considering he wanted her back months after filming.

I don't like saying it, but people can have sex without being in love with someone. I also still don't have an issue with Andi's behavior on ATFR. Did people expect her to be affectionate with him, get close to him, and tell him she did love him at one point? For goodness sake the way Nick was acting - shaking, mumbling and not forming sentences had me worried. I wouldn't have known to handle it and for Andi - whether it was Nick or producers, she knew he wanted a second chance. There's no easy way to handle that situation while being engaged to someone else. No other lead had to deal with someone like Nick.

Andi wasn't innocent, but that doesn't mean Nick should have told everyone he had sex with her because I would bet my house that he knew she wasn't going to answer him. There was no need of that.

Stating you never loved someone isn't degrading. She just didn't fall in love with him. She made it pretty clear she cared about him. Saying I don't know you, but I love ******* you, well I find that degrading.

Also, in my personal opinion, this conversation about Nick has been beaten to death.

^^^ I feel the same way, Ash. And I agree with so many of your statements above, especially the bolded. I know several posters have tried, but I don't think you can compare previous leads like Sean or Ashley and the ATFR conversations they had with their F2"s. Totally different personalities.