Re: Juan Pablo & Nikki Ferrell General Discussion - Fan Forum

[umngirl]

Thanks. So ABC did yank the DWTS gig away from him. A paying gig at that....cruel

And he has himself and his ill-advised comments to blame for that one.

[nd4reality]

I for one am waiting to see ABC and the creators of this franchise actually put their money where they mouth is and actually have an All Gay Bachelor or Bachelorette in an upcoming season.

That is when I know that they didn't just dump on their previous lead (JaunP) for his comments. Till that time they can take their indignation and shove it.

[Mirzam]

I for one am waiting to see ABC and the creators of this franchise actually put their money where they mouth is and actually have a Gay Bachelor or Bachelorette in an upcoming season.

That is when I know that they didn't just dump on their previous lead (JaunP) for his comments. Till that time they can take their indignation and shove it.

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[Alanna]

I agree umngirl, it's his fault and no one else's. Bet he gave Nikki a stern talking to for not being coy about the LA thing.

[Sable]

Thanks. So ABC did yank the DWTS gig away from him. A paying gig at that....cruel

And he has himself and his ill-advised comments to blame for that one.

The way I understand it is that no one is ever guaranteed a spot on this show. I think his name was on the list of potential candidates, and DWTS just decided not to go with him. I think it was partly the negative press he was getting due to his gay bachelor comments in the media, and I also think it had something to do with there being a couple of Olympic breakout stars that got added to the potential pool of candidates and ultimately the cast (I can't think of their names, but it was the couple that won the ice dancing gold medal). I remember after Emily's season there was some talk about her being on DWTS, and she didn't get the gig either, so Juan Pablo is not the only former bachelor or bachelorette that got passed over for this show.

[Mustang19]

Thanks. So ABC did yank the DWTS gig away from him. A paying gig at that....cruel

And he has himself and his ill-advised comments to blame for that one.

The way I understand it is that no one is ever guaranteed a spot on this show.  I think his name was on the list of potential candidates, and DWTS just decided not to go with him.  I think it was partly the negative press he was getting due to his gay bachelor comments in the media, and I also think it had something to do with there being a couple of Olympic breakout stars that got added to the potential pool of candidates and ultimately the cast (I can't think of their names, but it was the couple that won the ice dancing gold medal).  I remember after Emily's season there was some talk about her being on DWTS, and she didn't get the gig either, so Juan Pablo is not the only former bachelor or bachelorette that got passed over for this show.

I think the timing is questionable too. Without going back and researching, I think he made those comments shortly after the season premiere, which would have been early January. If plans just changed two weeks ago, seems he was signed despite his comments, and something else (or just additional contention) may have cancelled his participation.

[umngirl]

Thanks. So ABC did yank the DWTS gig away from him. A paying gig at that....cruel

And he has himself and his ill-advised comments to blame for that one.

The way I understand it is that no one is ever guaranteed a spot on this show.  I think his name was on the list of potential candidates, and DWTS just decided not to go with him.  I think it was partly the negative press he was getting due to his gay bachelor comments in the media, and I also think it had something to do with there being a couple of Olympic breakout stars that got added to the potential pool of candidates and ultimately the cast (I can't think of their names, but it was the couple that won the ice dancing gold medal).  I remember after Emily's season there was some talk about her being on DWTS, and she didn't get the gig either, so Juan Pablo is not the only former bachelor or bachelorette that got passed over for this show.

Yeah I know he wasn't guaranteed it, but like you said his name was pulled from the contestant pool. And I definitely believe the backlash against his comments was not something they wanted to deal with. Plus it seems he has an attitude problem at times, again something they most likely didn't want to deal with either.

[umngirl]

Thanks. So ABC did yank the DWTS gig away from him. A paying gig at that....cruel

And he has himself and his ill-advised comments to blame for that one.

The way I understand it is that no one is ever guaranteed a spot on this show.  I think his name was on the list of potential candidates, and DWTS just decided not to go with him.  I think it was partly the negative press he was getting due to his gay bachelor comments in the media, and I also think it had something to do with there being a couple of Olympic breakout stars that got added to the potential pool of candidates and ultimately the cast (I can't think of their names, but it was the couple that won the ice dancing gold medal).  I remember after Emily's season there was some talk about her being on DWTS, and she didn't get the gig either, so Juan Pablo is not the only former bachelor or bachelorette that got passed over for this show.

I think the timing is questionable too. Without going back and researching, I think he made those comments shortly after the season premiere, which would have been early January. If plans just changed two weeks ago, seems he was signed despite his comments, and something else (or just additional contention) may have cancelled his participation.  

He made the comments right before SeanCat's wedding. All the backlash was the reason he was uninvited to that as well. Again, he wouldn't have been officially signed at that point but on the list of potential contestants. And then they made the final cut down and he wasn't on it.

[Guest]

I for one am waiting to see ABC and the creators of this franchise actually put their money where they mouth is and actually have an All Gay Bachelor or Bachelorette in an upcoming season.

That is when I know that they didn't just dump on their previous lead (JaunP) for his comments. Till that time they can take their indignation and shove it.

Well said!!!

[lovelySC]

Thanks. So ABC did yank the DWTS gig away from him. A paying gig at that....cruel

And he has himself and his ill-advised comments to blame for that one.

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He wants to be in a private life anyway. This is good for him, less scrutiny!

[notarose]

I for one am waiting to see ABC and the creators of this franchise actually put their money where they mouth is and actually have an All Gay Bachelor or Bachelorette in an upcoming season.

That is when I know that they didn't just dump on their previous lead (JaunP) for his comments. Till that time they can take their indignation and shove it.

Well said!!!

My Amusing thought: how do we know JPG DIDNT INTENTIONALLY throw that comment out to put the gay bachelor debate back on the table. It definetly was debated for some time ... a social issue front page because of a reality tv show.

Why this is possible (conspiracy theory)
- we now think by the time filming ended, JPG was "done" with the process. He and CH were barely talking as seen at their last sit down in St. Lucia
- JPG has stated that he has a gay cousin who I think could be R. who has appeared several times on the show
- when the whole fiasco occurred, friends of JPG who are gay came to his defense as did either his mom or sister
- JPG is passionate about at least 1 social cause - sosvenesula
- his handler is gay and recently posted a pic on his own IG with JPG and a 3rd guy with a "3 amigos" caption so obviously something was resolved as his handler doesn't do publicity shot
- WTA - Charleen talked about the issue of equality, including the gay issue, without prompting from CH. There is no way of knowing if CH would have meantioned the gay comment at all as it wasn't in the show, it was after. I think Kelly brought it up in the context of her dad being gay then Sharleen commented. (Maybe they tag-teamed CH). Interestingly Kelly also tweeted her acceptance of his apology (he had posted on his Facebook) after WTA where it could be legimately discussed rather than weeks before when he has posted the apology.
- at ATFR it was clear JPG wanted privacy for their relationship to grow naturally. If he became a giant douche, he would still be honouring his contract but TPTB wouldn't be able to force them to do interviews or appearances because the public wouldn't want to hear about them anymore. He basically got Nikki & himself out of being owned by the TPTB by making it a poor business decision for TPTB to parade them around.
Sneaky!

Oh, and let's not forget that his mom is a personal brand consultant. She can rebuild him.

[FLChica]

The reason ABC invites Bachelor / Bachelorette leads to appear on DWTS is to bring over Bach viewers to generate buzz & increase ratings. They choose a mix of "stars" - those that are controversial, well-loved, have dance ability or those on other ABC / Disney shows they want to cross promote. Melissa fit their needs perfectly.

Most leads aren't invited: Des, Ben, Brad, Ashley, etc. I wouldn't mind watching Juan Pablo on DWTS because he has dance ability and is charismatic. JP would do more than strip off his shirt and clomp around the floor. Alas, ABC won't be paying him to televise his wedding so there isn't any reason to promote him.

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