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Date night of JP and Nikki: http://ca.eonline.com/news/520594/juan-pablo-galavis-and-nikki-ferrell-s-date-night-bachelor-couple-held-hands-looked-really-into-each-other?cmpid=sn-050313-twitter-na-enews
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Post by stuckinsc Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:37 pm

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Alanna wrote:
Isabel123 wrote:So cute. They were able to keep their friendship despite the controversy between Andi and JP.
In the People article, Nikki revealed that Andi is her bff and she will be invited to her wedding. JPab replied then "you'll going to marry a different guy". Not sure if he's joking or not, most likely joking coz he knows from the start that they are bff and one of the pic was taken during the ATFR.
Wait, that's kind of adorable!! But also a good example of what Nikki thinks is funny/okay/charming and another girl would find just ridiculous/crass/disrespectful. Can you share more of the interview? Only the cute parts will suffice!  giggling 

Here's a portion of the article.

Juan Pablo ‘Disappointed’ By Clare’s ‘Childish’ Reaction To Elimination
Wed, March 12, 2014 10:08am EDT by Emily Longeretta 11 Comments


While the Twitterverse lit up with support for Clare’s Juan Pablo tell-off session after he dumped her at the finale, the bachelor himself thought her behavior was completely out of line. Whose team are you on on — Clare or Juan Pablo’s?
Juan Pablo Galavis wasn’t expecting Clare Crawley to react so angrily when he broke the news that he wasn’t choosing her to get his final rose on The Bachelor. In a new interview, he reveals that he was actually incredibly “disappointed” by the way that she attacked him!

Juan Pablo’s Reaction To Clare’s Elimination
“It was very tough for me to say goodbye to Clare, but she made it easier with her [hostile] reaction,” Juan Pablo told People in a new interview. “She was expecting me to propose, I get it, but you don’t have to come at me like that. It was childish. She disappointed me.”

The “childish” reaction that he’s referring to was when Clare flipped out at him for leading her on until the very last minute. Juan Pablo told Clare that he wanted to  have kids with her just the night before he dumped her. That’s why when she walked away, she left him with a dig: “I would never want my children having a father like you.”

But Clare wasn’t the first of the ladies to give Juan Pablo a hard time about his behavior. Andi Dorfman also berated him after the fantasy suite dates. The bachelor made clear that he didn’t appreciate Andi’s feedback either.

“Like with Andi, we don’t have to talk about what happened or didn’t happen. Just go,” he added.

Juan Pablo & Nikki Don’t Watch ‘The Bachelor’
As for the season, Nikki Ferrell and Juan Pablo did not watch it together.

“He feels bad,” Nikki told the magazine. “If we were together when it was airing, he would go somewhere else and watch it. And I actually don’t watch most of the episodes, I just watch my parts with him. There’s no benefit in watching other people’s relationships with him!”

However, Nikki did stay close with one person from the show — the new Bachelorette, Andi.

“Andi will be at my wedding,” she told People, but Juan Pablo laughed, and answered with, “Then you’ll marry another guy!”

The parts bolded and underlined remind me of Chris with Des. They only watched their parts together. At the time I thought it was strange, but it worked out well for them.
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Post by Maggenzm Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:16 pm

notarose wrote:Article from a religious perspective
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lonna-saunders/enough-already-bachelor-j_b_4952153.html

I decide to post the article. It is a must read one, a new perspective it you will. Enjoy!!

Enough already! ABC's The Bachelor Juan Pablo Galavis did the right thing. Why all the hubbub?

Just because someone says "I love you!" on national television, doesn't mean the couple will get married or stay married. The vast majority of The Bachelor and The Bachelorettecouples have borne this out. The show's been on-air at least a dozen years, and the number of successful marriages can be counted on one hand. Not a great track record for the show or as a way of living happily ever after.

So he refused to say, "I love you!" on command when exhorted to do so by host Chris Harrison. Big deal! That makes him more of a man and more respectful, not less. Contestants do have the right to some privacy in this oh, so voyeuristic society that we have become. Because, ladies, how romantic would it be to have a man tell you he loves you in response to ABC's Chris Harrison on WLS-TV?

He can't win either way. If you first tell someone you love her on national television, wouldn't this just be seen as a gimmick, as insincere, as just being done for show or for the show? He loses either way.

That's not how it's done anyway. Telling a woman you love her for the first time is a very private, sacred moment. You wouldn't do it in front of your family, your best friend, your priest, or the milkman. If we still had milkmen... Why would you do it for the first time in perhaps the most public place of all? On national television? You wouldn't. And he didn't. Good for him!

Juan Pablo's top picks included a renowned opera singer, a prosecuting attorney and a pediatric nurse, who got the guy. That's an indicator of someone who took the process very seriously. He went for brains as well as beauty. He comes from a culture (Venezuelan) and religious faith (Roman Catholic) that takes matrimony very seriously. In the Roman Catholic faith, we are raised to mate for life. Divorce is not taken lightly. So Catholics may be slower to say, "I do" with this in mind. Please respect this!

Not to be thin-skinned, but methinks a lot of this tumult is thinly veiled Catholic bashing. Not cool. Frankly, it's offensive. Especially coming in the midst of Catholic Lenten observances leading up to the most revered days of the Catholic liturgical year the Last Supper, Good Friday and the Resurrection on Easter Sunday. As a devout Roman Catholic myself, I strenuously object.

By the way, the pediatric nurse who won the final rose is someone he appears to have viewed as a frontrunner right off the bat, since he introduced her to his daughter in the beginning weeks of the show. In fact, Nikki was the first one and only one to meet his daughter for a very long time on the show. Maybe she was his first pick all along. Sure looks that way.

Watching "After the Final Rose" with Juan Pablo and his chosen Nikki, how could you not see the look of love in both their eyes? You can't fake that. He's a pro soccer player, not Cary Grant.

Juan Pablo and Nikki have a right to their privacy now that the show is over. Respect it. Respect them. Put on Aretha Franklin's "Respect Yourself". Paying attention to its lyrics.

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Post by Isabel123 Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:50 pm

Maggenzm wrote:
notarose wrote:Article from a religious perspective
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lonna-saunders/enough-already-bachelor-j_b_4952153.html

I decide to post the article. It is a must read one, a new perspective it you will. Enjoy!!

Enough already! ABC's The Bachelor Juan Pablo Galavis did the right thing. Why all the hubbub?

Just because someone says "I love you!" on national television, doesn't mean the couple will get married or stay married. The vast majority of The Bachelor and The Bachelorettecouples have borne this out. The show's been on-air at least a dozen years, and the number of successful marriages can be counted on one hand. Not a great track record for the show or as a way of living happily ever after.

So he refused to say, "I love you!" on command when exhorted to do so by host Chris Harrison. Big deal! That makes him more of a man and more respectful, not less. Contestants do have the right to some privacy in this oh, so voyeuristic society that we have become. Because, ladies, how romantic would it be to have a man tell you he loves you in response to ABC's Chris Harrison on WLS-TV?

He can't win either way. If you first tell someone you love her on national television, wouldn't this just be seen as a gimmick, as insincere, as just being done for show or for the show? He loses either way.

That's not how it's done anyway. Telling a woman you love her for the first time is a very private, sacred moment. You wouldn't do it in front of your family, your best friend, your priest, or the milkman. If we still had milkmen... Why would you do it for the first time in perhaps the most public place of all? On national television? You wouldn't. And he didn't. Good for him!

Juan Pablo's top picks included a renowned opera singer, a prosecuting attorney and a pediatric nurse, who got the guy. That's an indicator of someone who took the process very seriously. He went for brains as well as beauty. He comes from a culture (Venezuelan) and religious faith (Roman Catholic) that takes matrimony very seriously. In the Roman Catholic faith, we are raised to mate for life. Divorce is not taken lightly. So Catholics may be slower to say, "I do" with this in mind. Please respect this!

Not to be thin-skinned, but methinks a lot of this tumult is thinly veiled Catholic bashing. Not cool. Frankly, it's offensive. Especially coming in the midst of Catholic Lenten observances leading up to the most revered days of the Catholic liturgical year the Last Supper, Good Friday and the Resurrection on Easter Sunday. As a devout Roman Catholic myself, I strenuously object.

By the way, the pediatric nurse who won the final rose is someone he appears to have viewed as a frontrunner right off the bat, since he introduced her to his daughter in the beginning weeks of the show. In fact, Nikki was the first one and only one to meet his daughter for a very long time on the show. Maybe she was his first pick all along. Sure looks that way.

Watching "After the Final Rose" with Juan Pablo and his chosen Nikki, how could you not see the look of love in both their eyes? You can't fake that. He's a pro soccer player, not Cary Grant.

Juan Pablo and Nikki have a right to their privacy now that the show is over. Respect it. Respect them. Put on Aretha Franklin's "Respect Yourself". Paying attention to its lyrics.


Thanks for posting. This is a good article, i am a catholic and i know that the devout ones do not believe in divorce. And i heard JP said that when he gets married it would be for good coz he does not believe in divorce.

And as for the bolded in pink font, that is what i also saw when i watched the ATFR and the video montage. JP knows the little things about Nikki, her bday, her fear of waves, she gets cranky when hot, not a morning person. Nikki digs JP, his jokes, being stubborn. These little things that when put together shows a great interest, like and love.
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Post by richmondrose Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:46 pm

This article is just another subjective perspective on JP's character and doesn't make it's content true. The author doesn't know him more than anyone else, and really can't speak with certainty on what his personal values are nor how strong his devotion is to his religion. Just because he may not believe in divorce doesn't mean that he adheres to all the tenets of Catholicism.  He did have  premarital sex ( unless his daughter was an immaculate conception )  and is still sleeping with women, which goes against the teaching of the church. I'm not saying that this makes him a bad person, but being Catholic doesn't make him all good either.

As for his treatment by the media et al being a "thin veiled Catholic bashing" ...I'm not even going there at all.
That comment speaks for itself.

***Just wanted to add that I am a Catholic, and I, by no means, want to turn this into a religious debate. My opinion only.
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Post by Mommyof2 Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:25 pm

I figured they were in cahoots on ATFR.  Nikki isn't THAT stupid.  


Bachelor Juan Pablo Has Told Nikki Ferrell He Loves Her

Tue, March 11, 2014 10:35pm EDT by  Sandra Clark      12 Comments  32,450 Article Views

 
Don’t cry too many tears for Juan Pablo’s final rose recipient. Hollywoodlife.com has EXCLUSIVELY learned that Nikki knows the Bachelor’s true feelings for her — and the reason why he didn’t go public with them on the ‘After the Final Rose’ special.

When Juan Pablo Galavis refused to tell Nikki Ferrel that he loved her during The Bachelor’s After the Final Rose special, viewers were both stunned and disappointed. But the former soccer player really has fallen for Nikki, a source reveals to HollywoodLife.com EXCLUSIVELY. In fact, the only reason he didn’t propose was because he was unhappy with network execs, and this was his way of getting back at them.


Does Juan Pablo Love Nikki? — Bachelor Has Told Final Rose Winner He Loves Her

We know exactly how Juan Pablo feels about ABC, thanks to RealitySteve – but the real question is how does the Bachelor feel about his final rose winner, Nikki? You’ll never believe what he told an insider on the show!

Juan Pablo has already told Nikki that he is in love with her. So don’t feel sorry for her. She’s planning on going to Miami soon to spend time with him and his family, who adore her,” a source tells HollywoodLife.com
EXCLUSIVELY. “The real reason he didn’t tell Nikki that he loved her on the finale special was to piss off the executives at ABC and Warner Bros.”


It seems there’s still a chance for Juan Pablo and Nikki after all! But it sounds like Juan Pablo’s relationship with ABC is officially over.

“There’s been tension between them from the start, and things only got worse when Juan Pablo wasn’t asked to be on Dancing with the Stars. He was like, ‘Screw all of you.’ He was really disappointed and felt like they had broken their promise,” the insider explains. “He also has a lot of pride and wasn’t about to be told what to do and knew the execs would be livid if he didn’t get down on one knee and propose.”

Juan Pablo & Nikki Pose Together After ‘Bachelor’ Drama

As HollywoodLife.com previously reported, Juan Pablo posted a cute photo of himself with Nikki on his Instagram following the After the Final Rose special. He captioned the pic: “We are FREE”.
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Post by quietpal Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:41 pm

You know, I can maybe understand why he got pissed. If this article is true, why not propose to her because you love her? That seems a little selfish to me. On the other hand, I wonder if she knew going into the FRC that he wasn't going to propose. The reason why I say this is because when he told her he wasn't going to use the ring and propose, I was watching her facial expression and she didn't seem upset at all, or shocked. As she was walking the path to the FRC, it was her talking, but it was in an edit. She was saying that she couldn't wait to tell her mom that she's engaged and that she has been waiting for this day for a long time, or something to that degree. Yeah, I think she knew.

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Post by Alanna Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:44 pm

This makes sense, she looked a little too loved up with him on atfr. She absolutely looked like an idiot up there, but the fact that he does love and care for her (in his own way at least) is hard to dispute.


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Post by Guest Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:48 pm

If they are happy I am happy and if they aren't I am still happy. This ending can be debated til the cows come home and it will still be as it is when the debate is over.

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Post by richmondrose Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:39 pm

Alanna wrote:This makes sense, she looked a little too loved up with him on atfr. She absolutely looked like an idiot up there, but the fact that he does love and care for her (in his own way at least) is hard to dispute.

Let's get the facts straight. Nikki admitted to the entire viewing audience that JP hadn't told her he loved her  ....  so this insider must have been mistaken. He had 4 months to tell her before the ATFR came around, and he's still mincing his words. Hopefully she has the patience of Job or this might not work out the way she expected.


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Post by stuckinsc Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:50 pm

richmondrose wrote:
Alanna wrote:This makes sense, she looked a little too loved up with him on atfr. She absolutely looked like an idiot up there, but the fact that he does love and care for her (in his own way at least) is hard to dispute.

Let's get the facts straight. Nikki admitted to the entire viewing audience that JP hadn't told her he loved her  ....  so this insider must have been mistaken. He had 4 months to tell her before the ATFR came around, and he's still mincing his words. Hopefully she has the patience of Job or this might not work the way she expected.


Sorry, plenty have gotten on that particular stage and lied that they loved someone, would it really be unbelievable that one of them might lie that ILY hadn't been said, just to screw with TPTB? She did say that his actions let her know that he cares about her a lot.

I don't know or care if he had said it before AFTR, truthfully, that is Nikki's business not mine. Seeing the angry and upset JPG on Monday night, I honestly could see him walking out of that studio and saying those words right away, just as soon as TPTB could get no value from them.
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Post by richmondrose Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:13 am

Oh, I agree that plenty have lied about the ILY. But what would Nikki gain by lying about it? The audience was already antagonistic and her admission only made it worse. It would have been smarter to lie and say that he had told her that he loved her, and in turn it would have soften the audience's feelings towards JP.
Unfortunately, instead of lying, she told the truth, and it made matters worse.
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