*No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 FINALE (LCD/MTP/FRC) Discussions

JBF wrote:"Fools rush in... Where angels fear to tread..." That's me this season... LOL!

It is only a silly TV show, after all. We will all return to our NORMAL lives when it is over.

Admit it JBF, you're just 'having a laugh', as they say in my native land!!!!!

80-20 Clare for me. The 20 of Nikki on account of FD, JP's blog and suspicious TWs and IGs

I am all in 100% w no proposal, though. ( I just realized that this is the reason why they ridiculously edit Clare as if she is so convinced that he will put a ring on her..lol )

This is my final take ( I think.. :))

Mirzam wrote:

JBF wrote:

iamreal2u wrote:

Mirzam wrote:

see2love wrote:You could be right and Clare is F!, but then again....sometimes "a chopstick is just a chopstick".  :Smiley: 

 :laughingoutlou  #KeepingItReal

You forgot #sane.       #justconversationstarters  #95%Nikki

Sooo... are you 5% Clare or 5% no pick?

Actually it would be fun to know everybody's take on this season. The more opinions, the merrier. Mirzam, are you 95% Nicki or 100%?

I would be a fool to be 100% anyone, but yeah, I would say 95% Nikki is F1. I am not sold on a FRC engagement though, I would say 5% chance of that.

Nikki but no ring.(I'd be super surprised)
It's in the kiss. Unlike with other girls:
- Most of their kisses, thus far, he doesn't hold her face or head at the beginning so she can easily withdraw or intensify what will happen (he gives control to her - trust - even though he is almost always the initiator)
- in the preview, he is above her while she is lying on the beach. Now he is asserting himself, claiming territory. We'll see if he does this with Clare... didnt happen when they were lying on the boat last week as she was above him. He never did this with Sharlene.
- at times there is a tenderness

Like Sharleen:
- sometimes talk/kiss/talk/kiss in rapid succession. The kisses are not just pecks in these sequences.
- long french kiss close-ups

It's been hammered home that this season is different. It's been hammered home that JP has not been cooperative and has been critical of the show format. Because of that I don't believe that typical markers apply.

It's simply in the kiss.

Nikki is F1, no proposal at the FRC, but...there could be one on ATFR.

JBF wrote:Actually it would be fun to know everybody's take on this season. The more opinions, the merrier.

JBF, as usual I've enjoyed your analysis this season! Thank you for sharing your insights!

I am about 75% believing he chose Nikki, but with no engagement, and I'm at about 90% thinking they've broken up already. But that situation doesn't go with the 'never before seen' hype from CH, so...I dunno! Maybe jp talks Carla into giving him another chance at ATFR - haven't seen THAT one before!

murasaki1393 wrote:80-20 Clare for me. The 20 of Nikki on account of FD, JP's blog and suspicious TWs and IGs

I am all in 100% w no proposal, though. ( I just realized that this is the reason why they ridiculously edit Clare as if she is so convinced that he will put a ring on her..lol )

This is my final take ( I think.. :))

I totally respect your opinion, but how do you explain away the time stamps on the FRC photos, without getting into wacky conspiracy theories, given the sleuthing and conclusions that Mr Write has come to wrt to the FRC location logistics etc? Are they not a compelling reason that Nikki is F1? Not to mention scarf-gate LOL.

If I was #TeamClare, at this point I would have thrown in the towel. I am not #TeamNikki either, he picks who he picks (or not). I was a huge Arie fan, but by HTDs it was in your face that Emily picked Jef. I couldn't see any way that Arie was her choice.

Litta123 wrote:I am 60-40 Clare. It's that PI in her FRC outfit that appears to be in LA that has me moving off the fence. If #teamnikki can give me a reasonable explanation or show me I'm wrong about it being post-filming, I'll go back to the fence.

Something posted on the spoiler side made me suspect that Nikki is F1. A photo that JP "liked on IG. I hope that didn't reveal too much info. If so, I'll delete my comment.

Mommyof1 wrote:Nikki is F1, no proposal at the FRC, but...there could be one on ATFR.  

ditto.

Thanks, Mommy, I'll check it out. At this point, I think most people on the non-spoiler side have figured out the spoilers...so at least, what you've posted doesn't bother me.

BKay wrote:

JBF wrote:Actually it would be fun to know everybody's take on this season. The more opinions, the merrier.

JBF, as usual I've enjoyed your analysis this season! Thank you for sharing your insights!

I am about 75% believing he chose Nikki, but with no engagement, and I'm at about 90% thinking they've broken up already. But that situation doesn't go with the 'never before seen' hype from CH, so...I dunno! Maybe jp talks Carla into giving him another chance at ATFR - haven't seen THAT one before!

Didn't Jason do that with Molly? It was doing his and Melisa's ATFR.

Here goes.............

20 % no pick (yes I still sail that boat). JP has a lot more on the line than just himself IMO and therefore it would make complete sense to me if he did. Plus I do include that whichever girl he does pick (below) is not going to be proposed to. More power to him. Jason Mesnic AND Emily should have done the same with a similar situation.

20% Clare pick - yes the pro Clare camp has me that much convinced including possible post-season PIs with different hair and wearing the V bracelet, Nikkis friends like Andi and Kelly seemly not liking JP.

60% Nikki pick - again the pro Nikki camp posts together with time stamps and Mr Write from pre-FRC SCs, BTS activities of Nikki flying, Clare's interview with the unanswered questions  and my own conviction of the Season Promo that the F1 is never the featured contestant. That till this season (unless Clare is F1 possibly) has not been wrong. I should know because I always "fall" for the featured contestant and they are never F1 . As most of you know I really don't like Clare and her mannerisms so I have not "fallen" for her like previous seasons so perhaps that will jinx it  . Oh and plus I totally believe Clare has got the physical edit without any real relationship growth other than "poor me I always seem to have some problem to fix" and "daddy issues". Contrast that with each episode Nikki has had a relationship trajectory other than "issues" with JP.

Does that total 100%.............yup just checking my basic math.

JBF wrote:

iamreal2u wrote:

Mirzam wrote:

see2love wrote:You could be right and Clare is F!, but then again....sometimes "a chopstick is just a chopstick".  :Smiley: 

 :laughingoutlou  #KeepingItReal

You forgot #sane.       #justconversationstarters  #95%Nikki

Sooo... are you 5% Clare or 5% no pick?

Actually it would be fun to know everybody's take on this season. The more opinions, the merrier. Mirzam, are you 95% Nicki or 100%?

95% sure he picked Nikki, 5% maybe Clare(my F1 don't unusually win and some oddities after FRC) and 50% he may give a ring because he seemed pretty happy by the choice of ring he picked.#hedging my bet..