*No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Edit Discussions

Aunties_Love wrote:

rosesrREd wrote:

eversotrue wrote:Well like you said roses, we dont know Clare enough to make judgements therefore we have NO IDEA in what circumstances she has bolted and what lead to that. Like I said, im sure she can draw the line...especially if she realizes that a child is involved and she wants the love that Juan has for Camila for her own children.

Those were her words, not mine.  She was about to "bolt" from Juan Pablo because she felt he needed to apologize, and be responsible for her emotional well being.  I don't know what circumstances make her "bolt" from relationships, but the fact that she felt the need to express that shows her overwhelming desire for everything to be about her.

BUT she also said last epi that she doesn't want to do that with Juan.

She did sy it .. But what proof is there's that she won't bolt at some point   

Aunties_Love wrote:

JBF wrote:She's not going to bolt.

Good to see I'm not alone defending the Princess. Poor gal is getting a beating today because so many feel she is too "possessive" of Juan. *chuckle chuckle*

One good thing... Nikki has a strong enough support system here. She may need it tomorrow and upcoming episodes in case the editors overdo her "negativity" and try to morph her into the next Courtney. At least I do laugh at a few of her comments.

What I don't understand is how all of a sudden there are so many Nikki supporters?  To me, I think we will see her "bitchy" side coming out next epi and hopefully Juan will see it too.  As I stated in another thread, Nikki already laid the groundwork for a confrontation back in Seoul and it is obvious to me that it will come out big time again in the next epi.

Oh let everybody enjoy themselves. Who knows? Maybe she will wind up as America's Sweetheart at the end of this. Then again, she might also wind up as the nastiest villain in Bachelor history. Either way, she deserves to be loved NOW at least. If Clare gets knocked a bit for being slightly possessive of Juan, that is a small price to pay. He seems to like her possessing him anyway.

You can easily see that the preview everybody is discussing has an abrupt cut right before Nikki goes upstairs and Renee looks upset by it. SOMETHING was said there that prompted Clare to go up after her... only we are not entitled to know what it is quite yet. It was not the joke about Clare being "checked out".

Why exactly did Nikki do to be considered coo coo downstairs???

Jeepers wrote:Why exactly did Nikki do to be considered coo coo downstairs???

  She told Clare she looked checked out?

Aunties_Love wrote:

rosesrREd wrote:

Mirzam wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:
I believe the rivalry already started in epi 4/Seoul when Juan brought up to Nikki about stress/drama in the house and NIKKI is the one that assumed it was Clare that started that, meanwhile it wasn't.  I believe that is when the stage was set for Nikki to go a little coo-coo on Clare in epi 7.

From the preview, it is Clare that follows Nikki upstairs so maybe Clare got coo-coo on Nikki?

The animosity and distrust between Clare and Nikki did start with episode 4, but it is clear from the preview that Nikki went upstairs to avoid an argument, and Clare follows.  So, if Nikki does go a little coo-coo, it's seems it was because Clare wouldn't let it be.

What seems to be missed here AND it did happen in the preview is that Nikki started it downstairs with Clare, then left to go upstairs.  Clare followed so she could stand up for herself.  Was she supposed to let someone walk all over her when Nikki started it downstairs?  or stand up for herself as most people would of??

We don't "really" know who and why the argument started. It seems the preview started after the conversation had already began. We do see Nikki commenting by saying "Renee is smiling, and Clare looks like she has checked out." I think the conversation started when Clare, Renee and Chelsea were sent back from the group date after JP chose Andi for the one on one time.

That is what appeared to be said by eit shown ...


Maybe Clare DID look checked out .. Like out in space .. Mind somewhere else

There is more to this...

Don't see that comment as a reason to call Nikki coo coo .. Harmless

Jeepers wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

rosesrREd wrote:

eversotrue wrote:Well like you said roses, we dont know Clare enough to make judgements therefore we have NO IDEA in what circumstances she has bolted and what lead to that. Like I said, im sure she can draw the line...especially if she realizes that a child is involved and she wants the love that Juan has for Camila for her own children.

Those were her words, not mine.  She was about to "bolt" from Juan Pablo because she felt he needed to apologize, and be responsible for her emotional well being.  I don't know what circumstances make her "bolt" from relationships, but the fact that she felt the need to express that shows her overwhelming desire for everything to be about her.

BUT she also said last epi that she doesn't want to do that with Juan.

She did sy it .. But what proof is there's that she won't bolt at some point   

I'm sorry, but what proof is there that she will??

Jeepers wrote:That is what appeared to be said by eit shown ...


Maybe Clare DID look checked out .. Like out in space .. Mind somewhere else

There is more to this...

Don't see that comment as a reason to call Nikki coo coo .. Harmless

Neither do I.   

Aunties_Love wrote:

Jeepers wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

rosesrREd wrote:

eversotrue wrote:Well like you said roses, we dont know Clare enough to make judgements therefore we have NO IDEA in what circumstances she has bolted and what lead to that. Like I said, im sure she can draw the line...especially if she realizes that a child is involved and she wants the love that Juan has for Camila for her own children.

Those were her words, not mine.  She was about to "bolt" from Juan Pablo because she felt he needed to apologize, and be responsible for her emotional well being.  I don't know what circumstances make her "bolt" from relationships, but the fact that she felt the need to express that shows her overwhelming desire for everything to be about her.

BUT she also said last epi that she doesn't want to do that with Juan.

She did sy it .. But what proof is there's that she won't bolt at some point   

I'm sorry, but what proof is there that she will??

Her own admission of her past .. To some a red flag .. No proof that she won't bolt ..

Jeepers wrote:Why exactly did Nikki do to be considered coo coo downstairs???

I guess what bothers me to an extent is how assumptions are being made that it is Clare that caused the problem and it is Clare that is coo-coo this time. We have NOTHING that shows that, but obviously something was said by Nikki to prompt Clare to find out what's going on. Again, as JBF said, there was an abrupt cut in the track before Nikki went upstairs and Clare to follow so somehting was said to prompt Clare to follow.

JBF: you are right, I should just let the naysayers have their say, but I guess it is the assumptions and opinions without the facts being present that kind of bothers me. The assumptions that Clare is the only one that is the problem causer when we don't know what was said between the time that Nikki was talking, the hurt look on Clare's face and the fact that Nikki escaped. She must of said something to prompt Clare to follow.

... and that could be ALL she says and Clare over reacted. Is that what many here think?

YES... that may be how it plays out.

Bottom line: stuff is missing that we have yet to see.

Jeepers wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

Jeepers wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

rosesrREd wrote:

eversotrue wrote:Well like you said roses, we dont know Clare enough to make judgements therefore we have NO IDEA in what circumstances she has bolted and what lead to that. Like I said, im sure she can draw the line...especially if she realizes that a child is involved and she wants the love that Juan has for Camila for her own children.

Those were her words, not mine.  She was about to "bolt" from Juan Pablo because she felt he needed to apologize, and be responsible for her emotional well being.  I don't know what circumstances make her "bolt" from relationships, but the fact that she felt the need to express that shows her overwhelming desire for everything to be about her.

BUT she also said last epi that she doesn't want to do that with Juan.

She did sy it .. But what proof is there's that she won't bolt at some point   

I'm sorry, but what proof is there that she will??

Her own admission of her past .. To some a red flag .. No proof that she won't bolt ..

Yes, she did say that it was her PAST and since then she also said that she doesn't want to do it in her present/future. NO proof that she did though.