*No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Edit Discussions

my take on the Triangle Necklace is so simple :

i am leaning toward that it was at the mansion, post-show. They need to take `filler` PIs to complete the key stories they were trying to chocked us!..LOL.

IMO although the location is important, it is not as important as the Time frame of those PIs. I  always seek for clues of the likely time frame and do some reasonings based on the expression and appearance (and yes, sometimes general backdrop whether it is in tropical setting, etc) then link it to the key stories of the main storyline.

for example, let me share you what i found last season. The Prince`s Siegfried Purple PI on episode 3 :

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THIS particular cap has intrigued me so much that i start to questioning the spoilers , interrupting Mr. JBF the edit guru all season long  (TY Prof!!  ), and doing Ghost Protocol with some of you awesome sleuthers around here..LOL.. .
This is more or less the `conversation inside my head` at that time :
- is this PI look like as an ITM? NO
- why did he look sporting awful lot of tan here?? YUP.. gotcha!!... it is likely taken during/after Antigua., than during the ACTUAL episode 3,when they were still in the US.
- is this implying a broken hearted F2 guy?? Hell, NO.
- did he look beaming in this cap?? Hell, YES. ..ding...ding...F1 much?
- is he having much fun poking at Brooks with his line ` Dang BRooks!!..he is so hot...he is so funny..." with that smirk??...1000%YES.
THAT doesnt look like a F2 guy commenting the F1 to me, but OTHERWISE.
in addition, This purple shirt also didnt appear in the actual episode (epis.3).

in short, they needed that PI--- later identified as at the mansion-- to inject that there was some `rivalry` going on between Chris and Brooks. a prolog we need for the coming Brooks saga in Antigua.  

now, i dont put too much stock on what is the Triangle necklace implying.and the outfit she is wearing in this PI also wouldnt necessarily be the one she was wearing during the show. Like ive said, this is the FILLER PIs likely taken AFTER the fact. They solely aim to deliver her side of the story.

the difference between Chris`s cap with Clare`s Triangle Necklace cap is, i can see the awful lot of tan on Chris. while in Clare`s case, not so much.
I am leaning toward that while Chris said he and Des have this ` legit` chemistry, they still spare their time between their lovey dovey sessions in Antigua post finale to catch some sun and playing outside... as for JuClare`s case, ummm..not much,perhaps.?   .....I suspect they were super busy feeding each other`s the "choc-0-late (Camilla : i likeee Choc-OOO-late!) and Octopus (a tentacle only??    )" in the honeymoon`s suite for 4-5 days straight!!..      

JBF wrote:Soooo... are we saying this necklace is like Rikki's picture on Emily's fridge during Brad's season? Or the Barcelona poem that Desiree wrote for Chris with the line "And hopeful to see if in your heart / I have found a home"?

Litta123 wrote:In all honesty, I don't have high hopes for a happy ending, no matter who Juan Pablo chooses. And for the record, even though I think Clare is F1, I won't lose any sleep over it if I'm wrong.

None of us have a crystal ball, but Juan does seem pretty happy post-show. I would wager that he is with somebody and is content, despite what struggles the relationship has had. Am I absolutely certain? No.

He looks happy here. Then again, this was before his interview blunder and the naughty episode #5 prompted an avalanche of negative comments on twitter and elsewhere. My guess is that he'll look more tired by "Women Tell All" time.



Key scene of interest:
"What happens in  the fantasy suite? Be honest" Huge smile as he looks up, remembering something-something. "I don't kiss and tell, buddy. I don't kiss and tell."



Interesting facial reactions to the pictures of...
Andi... "not bad" nod
Renee... a slight smirk followed by a "no" nod. Jimmy: "I'm doing good so far?" Juan gives a small "no" nod, but says "I wish I could say yes." (Meaning: he would have liked her to be in the final three but she probably wasn't.)

"The winner, I believe, will be Nikki." Juan instantly rolls his eyes (classic screencap there!) when Jimmy says "Nikki is a pediatric nurse". The audience starts laughing immediately and Juan is again nodding his head "no" (much as Desiree did for all of Jimmy's top three last time... these leads can't help those quick "no" nods). Juan then pats Jimmy on the shoulder as Jimmy almost busts out laughing.

When "caught" in his tweeting about Kansas City, he brings up Atlanta, Tampa and... Sacramento. (No pictures of Sacarmento girls in Jimmy's trio.) Juan brings up Sacramento three times this interview. When he brings up the city that third time, he backtracks and adds Chicago as another city. Jimmy eyes him "don't try to smokescreen this. We know who you're with." Huge grin on Juan's face.

Ditto with you JBF about the JK live..

i was like...what was that dude thinking bringing up the Sacramento comments  :shocked!: ?..LOL..  . The homeboy cant contain himself!....that was sooo close, papi!... :P 

analyzing both vids, IMO one needs only 2 things :
-- knowing how the devil MFand co`s way of thinking regarding keeping the outcome a secret.
--a `poker face meter`-an indicator of how good a lead can hold a poker face and/or hiding their real emotions (yes, i made this up myself.. ).
mine, is pointing out that on the scale 1-10 (worst to  best) :
-Sean was 9.0
-Des was 2.5
- and the El Bachelor was only 1.5.. . :giggle: .....no wonder MF told JK to NOT flashing the card At all!  :P 

I too think there is a sort of `weird feeling` from JP toward Nikki post-show. I cant pinpoint what it is exactly, though. Unlike Des, his impression of rolling his eyes while glaring at Nikki`s card is quite weird, IMO. Seeing it, I get the sense that he was poking on Nikki..LOL , not a common expression toward the FI to me. Could it be because something2 happen at the finale?..maybe.....since i can see Nikki storming at him at the finale, and if it happens, i definetely wont blame her.

I actually think it the other way round. He rolled his eyes not to give it away. Its a case of going to the extreme to cover a truth.

There is no was he would roll his eyes if he didnt choose her because that would be giving the end away. IMHO

^^Agree. Plus the split second smile when he heard Nikki's name, then rolled his eyes.

^^ Also JP has this pict on his IG
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who does- Juan Pablo?

lexforlife wrote:who does- Juan Pablo?

yep...

That's interesting!

see2love wrote:I actually think it the other way round. He rolled his eyes not to give it away. Its a case of going to the extreme to cover a truth.

There is no was he would roll his eyes if he didnt choose her because that would be giving the end away. IMHO

I thought the same thing !

His reaction (rolling his eyes) was an embarrassed reaction to cover his base .
A huge smile or other would have give it away, so a "silly" movement was there to offer an alternative.
Hummmmm...
That's what the "not good at poker" faces usually do... Escape with denial.

iamreal2u wrote:^^ Also JP has this pict on his IG
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That looks more like a sarcastic than "in love" look to me.

Yet it is good that we are debating all of this. No point "assuming" only one outcome.

Here's Desiree's for comparison:

Well you have this right before the eye roll
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And these after the eye roll

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see2love wrote:I actually think it the other way round. He rolled his eyes not to give it away. Its a case of going to the extreme to cover a truth.

There is no was he would roll his eyes if he didnt choose her because that would be giving the end away. IMHO

Totally agree with you. Time will tell.....