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Post by Guest Tue 11 Feb 2014 - 18:20

But would he show his daughter and parents to Nikki if he wasn't intending to take her to the end? Why isn't there a mid season preview yet? I thought we would have gotten that last week or even this week. what is going on this season?

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Post by nd4reality Tue 11 Feb 2014 - 18:27

^^^ That is a possibility yes.

This based on the fact that we have only 1 SC of Nikki in St Lucia, none for Andi and 2 for Clare.
We have had early eliminations in the past also so perhaps 1 contestant eliminated herself and the other was eliminated by JP (like Des).

Of course it is possible that they left out SCs in the preview BUT based on last season where we sleuthed that Brooks was history with the same argument I figure perhaps not.


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Post by nd4reality Tue 11 Feb 2014 - 18:31

lexforlife wrote:But would he show his daughter and parents to Nikki if he wasn't intending to take her to the end? Why isn't there a mid season preview yet? I thought we would have gotten that last week or even this week. what is going on this season?

Good point.

Though there is always the explanation that some would give that it is not his choice but the producers  scratch 
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Post by Maggenzm Tue 11 Feb 2014 - 18:36

Mirzam wrote:
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Litta123 wrote:
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Litta123 wrote:So, nd, I'm curious as to your thoughts. Who are you leaning towards as F1 right now...or is it still up in the air for you? Putting your personal feelings aside, do you think Clare could be F1?

Yes I do think she could be F1. As in - I am not ruling her out. BUT it is still up in the air for me so I'm not declaring her F1 and I guess till I see the twirl I will still be wondering  giggling .

Since the SCs don't lie I say Nikki and Clare as the F2 and BTW you were so clever to link the episode description with the lack of SCs for Andi. I do think something goes down with Andi around the FDs.

IF that pans out, then again going back to SCs - it is entirely possible that the other F2 (Nikki)  does not get an LCD date because we don't have LCD SCs for her either ! The horse ride is her FD date and we have nothing for Nikki on LCDs !!!!

Remember last season ??? The SCs told the story in the season preview. No Brooks romantic date (just him dumping Des) and Drew with FD and then LCD -got rejected on a beach.

Having said all this - I hope JP wakes up and smells the stale coffee and see how he's been played all season long. I read CHs Q&A and he is as puzzled as I was that JP didn't really end up apologizing yet Clare bounced back right as rain to continue her fake journey. Ugh. Sorry Clare fans but she just gets more annoying by the episode.

nd, thanks for your response. IF, IF, IF all of our interpretations of the caps are correct, then it's looking more and more likely Clare is F1...to me. Why give us everything else in the previews, but leave off the most important if Nikki is F1? But I guess who says TPTB ever try to make sense...such a weird season.

Which is exactly why we must keep our eyes peeled and not jump into one boat and persist in floating in it.

As for the SCs - it is the lack of them (Andi and Nikki) that is the bigger clue for me rather than the ever presence of Princess Clare.

Are you thinking that there is essentially no F2, ie that only Clare makes it to the end, and that somehow both Andi and Nikki drop out before F2/FRC because of the lack of SCs?

Who puts these SC's out? Can they hide them if they choose to? Cus, if they are the one who decide what we see and not see, they have the power to control the story they want reveal. Right?
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Post by MVMom39forever Tue 11 Feb 2014 - 18:41

^^^Exactly! I think we are due for at least a couple more releases of rest of season screen caps. Usually get one around F4 and then at the WTA. I am not all that worried about a lack of Andi and NIkki in caps. And ... I am hoping that our surprise visitor (per LItta's catch) is .... SHARLENE!! Wouldn't that be awesome fun?!

Please please please ... just end this season if it's going to be only Clare for last two episodes. gag gag gag

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Post by Maggenzm Tue 11 Feb 2014 - 18:46

MVMom39forever wrote:^^^Exactly! I think we are due for at least a couple more releases of rest of season screen caps. Usually get one around F4 and then at the WTA. I am not all that worried about a lack of Andi and NIkki in caps. And ... I am hoping that our surprise visitor (per LItta's catch) is .... SHARLENE!! Wouldn't that  be awesome fun?!

Please please please ... just end this season if it's going to be only Clare for last two episodes. gag gag gag

If Claire is the one then what 's the point of the rest of the episodes, just end it now.
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Post by Aunties_Love Tue 11 Feb 2014 - 19:08

lexforlife wrote:But would he show his daughter and parents to Nikki if he wasn't intending to take her to the end? Why isn't there a mid season preview yet? I thought we would have gotten that last week or even this week. what is going on this season?
I'm sorry, but how do we know it is Nikki that meets Camilla and not someone else. I didn't think it was written out like that.


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Post by nd4reality Tue 11 Feb 2014 - 20:31

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lexforlife wrote:But would he show his daughter and parents to Nikki if he wasn't intending to take her to the end? Why isn't there a mid season preview yet? I thought we would have gotten that last week or even this week. what is going on this season?
I'm sorry, but how do we know it is Nikki that meets Camilla and not someone else.  I didn't think it was written out like that.

It actually was in the detailed episode description. She meets Camilla and his parents.

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Post by nd4reality Tue 11 Feb 2014 - 20:35

MVMom39forever wrote:^^^Exactly! I think we are due for at least a couple more releases of rest of season screen caps. Usually get one around F4 and then at the WTA. I am not all that worried about a lack of Andi and NIkki in caps. And ... I am hoping that our surprise visitor (per LItta's catch) is .... SHARLENE!! Wouldn't that  be awesome fun?!

Please please please ... just end this season if it's going to be only Clare for last two episodes. gag gag gag


Well actually Nikki is there for the FDs (horseback riding date). So perhaps he eliminates her at the start of the LCDs just like Emily did with Arie ? These are just speculations
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Post by Guest Tue 11 Feb 2014 - 20:52

In regards to the Nikki meeting Camila. She was technically the only girl he would choose for the Miami dates, especially over Renee and Chelsie. Andi and Clare had already had 1 on 1's the week prior (and Andi was due for one and he needed to clear stuff up with Clare). And Sharleen isnt a kid person (going off of what we know). So, that left Nikki, Renee, and Chelsie. Who does he have a stronger connection with of the three?? Exactly.

Also, lets not forget, Melissa "saw" Ty when they were in Seattle and Molly was on a group date that week..more food for thought.

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Post by jjinkc Tue 11 Feb 2014 - 21:33

I don't think that Juan Pablo would have had someone meet his daughter just because he had to fill a date requirement. If who was left wasn't a serious consideration, I don't think he would have involved her and they could have planned a different date, there's lots to do in Miami besides go to a kid's dance recital. I think he was testing the waters.
And regarding Jason's season, yes he ended up with Molly in the end but at this point, he was all Melissa in the Bachelor bubble so I don't think you can discount what happened in his season. He didn't pick Melissa as a joke to just dump her later, he picked her and then realised she was the wrong choice. He got lucky that Molly gave it a chance afterwards and the right couple ended up together.
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Post by nd4reality Tue 11 Feb 2014 - 21:35

jjinkc wrote:I don't think that Juan Pablo would have had someone meet his daughter just because he had to fill a date requirement. If who was left wasn't a serious consideration, I don't think he would have involved her and they could have planned a different date, there's lots to do in Miami besides go to a kid's dance recital. I think he was testing the waters.
And regarding Jason's season, yes he ended up with Molly in the end but at this point, he was all Melissa in the Bachelor bubble so I don't think you can discount what happened in his season. He didn't pick Melissa as a joke to just dump her later, he picked her and then realised she was the wrong choice.  He got lucky that Molly gave it a chance afterwards and the right couple ended up together.

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