*No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Edit Discussions

I was just going to ask... who was the lady with Juan just around the corner of the wall?

Oh yeah... it just may be Chelsie's cameo! Ha ha! You never know. Right now, they are pushing Sharleen on us Big Time like she is the ONLY woman on his radar. Heck, maybe she is this season's Ed (a.k.a. Jillian)... who leaves and comes back at the end?

JBF wrote:I was just going to ask... who was the lady with Juan just around the corner of the wall?

Oh yeah... it just may be Chelsie's cameo! Ha ha! You never know. Right now, they are pushing Sharleen on his Big Time like she is the ONLY woman on his radar.

I thought that was a dark haired lady with Juan around the corner of the wall? Looked like either Sharleen or maybe Andi to me unless someone's sneaking out..

JBF wrote:Did anybody catch the little "extensions" to Monday's promo, shown just before we got.. ugh!... another "live" shot of Consummation Station? (I'm just kidding! I'm happy for the couple, but they did milk it a bit too much on screen.)

I just posted in the media thread. ITA with you about the excessive milking of the wedding night. Did they have to have a camera on consummation station running ? Its like the first virgin sacrifice. Tacky.

Lots of drama up ahead in this episode particularly Nikki and Clare. Andi all upset about the amount of time Clare is manipulating herself with JP. Most of the girls accusing Nikki of being different with JP than she is with them though it is possible that splicing/dicing is involved there. That was the impression the preview gave though. I think Nikki gets her first kiss of the season. Sharlene shown kissing - yuck she has bad technique. They showed a brunette girl in a strong discussion with JP. Is that either Andi or Sharlene ? Which other brunette is left ? If someone could cap that ?

I think she's Lauren being escorted early on a group date or something. This makes sense with her sobbing.

JBF wrote:I think she's Lauren being escorted early on a group date or something. This makes sense with her sobbing.

Oh Lauren - yes that is a good possibility. Do you remember what she was sobbing about ?

nd4reality wrote:

JBF wrote:Did anybody catch the little "extensions" to Monday's promo, shown just before we got.. ugh!... another "live" shot of Consummation Station? (I'm just kidding! I'm happy for the couple, but they did milk it a bit too much on screen.)

I just posted in the media thread. ITA with you about the excessive milking of the wedding night. Did they have to have a camera on consummation station running ? Its like the first virgin sacrifice. Tacky.

The lights! It was like "film noir" setting! And Chris Harrison CONTINUING to discuss it with the happy couple!

All joking aside... Catherine ENJOYED discussing it a lot. So... more power to her. She was giggly... and Sean was giggly shopping for ladies garments. To each their own. Also they've got to hawk the goods for TV viewers before Valentine's Day. Like all shows, it is all about Selling The Product!

Yeah... Lauren fusses at the end of the last promo that she has no clue what Juan wants. My guess is that he escorts her out early as "drama". Wasn't she the piano player?

Sharleen is the opera singer... but she is getting plenty of attention as a frontrunner. So Juan has no problem with musical talent. ALSO... one group date is all about music performance.

What I need to do is the voice-byte "thang" with all the faces. Julychild asked me if there are any similarities between the 4th episode promos. There really aren't... EXCEPT... that key lines fit each person's story. In Desiree's promo (posted a couple posts above), Brooks and others are shown as competitive "for the rose". Yet Chris is just competitive (per the voice-byte) for a 1 on 1 time with her. Also Chris gets Desiree's key word "love" and is shown competing for "The Bachelorette's" Mister America.

doesn't anyone find it odd we get drama distraction tomorrow night?   We go from relatively drama free and great dates episode to drama episode and most likely one great group date and one lousy group date. I'm assuming that if promos are not misleading, the lousy group date is going to be the one with Clare, Andi and Nikki duking it out while the great group date has Chelsie and Cassandra just dancing away.   

Went back to the earlier episode promo. Below is a line by line, face-shot by face-shot overview. Have to see what is different with the ending in this other one.

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Going by just that promo, my guess is that F1 is either Clare or Chelsie. Hey! Chelsie is the first to speak after Chris Harrison finishes talking!

... Oh... and Lauren is blindsided. I guess.

First shot: Sharleen singing
Juan VO: South Korea is unbelievable. It is beautiful. = travel footage
Harrison: Juan Pablo's romantic (not dramatic) journey to find love continues = mix of dates but nobody particularly visible until Chelsie entering with others with a loud: "OMG!"
Clare VO: Tonight was OUR night (... and Juan is shoving food in Clare's mouth like all the other ladies and Camila. Wooooooh! Backtrack a minute here! They spent the night?)
Nikki telling Juan: I want the real deal. I'm ready. (This is what gets me. He told Clare in the seasonal promo "this is the real deal" with that horny look. Either Nikki or Clare will get cheated out of The Deal this season. Which one? Nikki is "ready" for the Real Deal but isn't specifying with Juan.)
Sharleen VO over clips of her date: I feel thought about and special. (?!)
Juan to Sharleen: Because you are special. (Now THIS scene makes me think Sharleen is not F1. Juan talks like Mister Rogers.)
Juan & Andi: Ay Ay Ay Ay... (My opinion of this whole season.)
Juan & hard-to-see Sharleen (I think): This just feels right. This feels very right. (This scene throws me off... I think he may be talking about "this" date. Not "she" feels right for me. Yet I still keeping thinking in the back of my mind that Sharleen could be a long-shot F1 who might leave and come back.)
Andi VO over Clare/Juan shots: Clare always has to sit next to him. She's got to be the one to talk to him. "It's warmer over here." (Just don't sit on his lap.)
Andi VO over Andi: It's hard to watch Clare monopolize his time. (Ditto Vienna and Courtney. What else is new?)
Kelly to Clare: Are you going to try to kiss him?
Clare back: I am not going to *try* to kiss him. (No effort on HER part.)
Elise talking to Juan: There has to be girls that you know...
... aren't gonna be... / shots of Sharleen and Nikki (Ouch!)
... a good mother.  Juan responds to Elise: "I'm going to keep my eyes very open". (Open? For what? Sharleen and Nikki? What are these nice ladies up to?!? I LUV Nikki! I want her as Bachelorette. Whatcha talkin' about, Juan?)
Cassandra speaking: The cattiness is starting...
Nikki vs. Clare, with latter saying "You are one way with the girls and one way with him"
Nikki speaking: I think Clare's threatened by me. I'm sick of it.
Allison (????): I feel like you can only hide that for so long. (Hide what? The Seoul hotel linens? The dark roots in Nikki's hair? Is somebody "in the closet"? Is Juan sneaking into dark alleys with a contestant behind the others' backs? What?)
Lauren (?) is shown hugging Juan
Lauren sobbing: I care about him. I don't know what he's feeling right now, y'know?

I've noticed that the only girls that have had doubts brought about in their edit were Clare and Chelsie. Chelsie was given the edit of is she ready for motherhood, while Clare seems to be given the edit of she is spending way too much time with him and creating drama and some jealousy.

I don't think that Nikki will be the villain of the season. Seems like that edit is going in Clare's favor. I really liked Clare first episode but some of the previous episodes and behind the scenes stuff have me not liking her as much as I did first ep. :( A shame that edit can do that. *sighs*

I don't think Nikki will be a villain either. That voice-byte in the promo covering her and Sharleen "aren't gonna be" simply lowers their chances of being "the one". Note that both are cut off before the word "mother", so you know they are just as capable of being one as anybody else. Mind you, I am not ruling anybody out just yet... not even Chelsie until she officially leaves. With the possibility of ladies leaving and coming back, anything can happen. It is just that Clare is leading everybody else in terms of her edit.

JBF wrote:I don't think Nikki will be a villain either. That voice-byte in the promo covering her and Sharleen "aren't gonna be" simply lowers their chances of being "the one". Note that both are cut off before the word "mother", so you know they are just as capable of being one as anybody else. Mind you, I am not ruling anybody out just yet... not even Chelsie until she officially leaves. With the possibility of ladies leaving and coming back, anything can happen. It is just that Clare is leading everybody else in terms of her edit.

When I saw the behind the scenes edit, I got the impression TPTB had slated Clare to be the next Bachelorette. Not sure why. maybe because it is obvious the cameras love her, she has that great bubbly personality when she chooses to show it and isn't being involved with house drama and letting jealousy take over.    I think if it wasn't for edit, I would like Clare over Nikki. Nikki is more reserved, and quiet. I think she's been burnt in the past and doesn't want to get burnt again. JMO.