*No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Edit Discussions

Kelad9 wrote:

JBF wrote:I don't think Nikki will be a villain either. That voice-byte in the promo covering her and Sharleen "aren't gonna be" simply lowers their chances of being "the one". Note that both are cut off before the word "mother", so you know they are just as capable of being one as anybody else. Mind you, I am not ruling anybody out just yet... not even Chelsie until she officially leaves. With the possibility of ladies leaving and coming back, anything can happen. It is just that Clare is leading everybody else in terms of her edit.

When I saw the behind the scenes edit, I got the impression TPTB had slated Clare to be the next Bachelorette. Not sure why. maybe because it is obvious the cameras love her, she has that great bubbly personality when she chooses to show it and isn't being involved with house drama and letting jealousy take over.    I think if it wasn't for edit, I would like Clare over Nikki. Nikki is more reserved, and quiet. I think she's been burnt in the past and doesn't want to get burnt again. JMO.

JBF wrote:Went back to the earlier episode promo. Below is a line by line, face-shot by face-shot overview. Have to see what is different with the ending in this other one.

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Going by just that promo, my guess is that F1 is either Clare or Chelsie. Hey! Chelsie is the first to speak after Chris Harrison finishes talking!
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Nikki vs. Clare, with latter saying "You are one way with the girls and one way with him"
Nikki speaking: I think Clare's threatened by me. I'm sick of it.
Allison (????): I feel like you can only hide that for so long. (Hide what? The Seoul hotel linens? The dark roots in Nikki's hair? Is somebody "in the closet"? Is Juan sneaking into dark alleys with a contestant behind the others' backs? What?)
Lauren (?) is shown hugging Juan
Lauren sobbing: I care about him. I don't know what he's feeling right now, y'know?

JBF wrote:Went back to the earlier episode promo. Below is a line by line, face-shot by face-shot overview. Have to see what is different with the ending in this other one.

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Going by just that promo, my guess is that F1 is either Clare or Chelsie. Hey! Chelsie is the first to speak after Chris Harrison finishes talking!

... Oh... and Lauren is blindsided. I guess.

First shot: Sharleen singing
Juan VO: South Korea is unbelievable. It is beautiful. = travel footage
Harrison: Juan Pablo's romantic (not dramatic) journey to find love continues = mix of dates but nobody particularly visible until Chelsie entering with others with a loud: "OMG!"
Clare VO: Tonight was OUR night (... and Juan is shoving food in Clare's mouth like all the other ladies and Camila. Wooooooh! Backtrack a minute here! They spent the night?)
Nikki telling Juan: I want the real deal. I'm ready. (This is what gets me. He told Clare in the seasonal promo "this is the real deal" with that horny look. Either Nikki or Clare will get cheated out of The Deal this season. Which one? Nikki is "ready" for the Real Deal but isn't specifying with Juan.)
Sharleen VO over clips of her date: I feel thought about and special. (?!)
Juan to Sharleen: Because you are special. (Now THIS scene makes me think Sharleen is not F1. Juan talks like Mister Rogers.)
Juan & Andi: Ay Ay Ay Ay... (My opinion of this whole season.)
Juan & hard-to-see Sharleen (I think): This just feels right. This feels very right. (This scene throws me off... I think he may be talking about "this" date. Not "she" feels right for me. Yet I still keeping thinking in the back of my mind that Sharleen could be a long-shot F1 who might leave and come back.)
Andi VO over Clare/Juan shots: Clare always has to sit next to him. She's got to be the one to talk to him. "It's warmer over here." (Just don't sit on his lap.)
Andi VO over Andi: It's hard to watch Clare monopolize his time. (Ditto Vienna and Courtney. What else is new?)
Kelly to Clare: Are you going to try to kiss him?
Clare back: I am not going to *try* to kiss him. (No effort on HER part.)
Elise talking to Juan: There has to be girls that you know...
... aren't gonna be... / shots of Sharleen and Nikki (Ouch!)
... a good mother.  Juan responds to Elise: "I'm going to keep my eyes very open". (Open? For what? Sharleen and Nikki? What are these nice ladies up to?!? I LUV Nikki! I want her as Bachelorette. Whatcha talkin' about, Juan?)
Cassandra speaking: The cattiness is starting...
Nikki vs. Clare, with latter saying "You are one way with the girls and one way with him"
Nikki speaking: I think Clare's threatened by me. I'm sick of it.
Allison (????): I feel like you can only hide that for so long. (Hide what? The Seoul hotel linens? The dark roots in Nikki's hair? Is somebody "in the closet"? Is Juan sneaking into dark alleys with a contestant behind the others' backs? What?)
Lauren (?) is shown hugging Juan
Lauren sobbing: I care about him. I don't know what he's feeling right now, y'know?

Kelad9 wrote:I still think we are being misled with the spoilers and possible edits and feel in my gut that Chelsie is F1. Like I said, I can't explain why I feel Chelsie is F1, but that I do. I think it's because I see so much more between her body language interaction with JP and his body language with her than I see between JP and some of the other girls. I can't wait to see how the season pans out in terms of edit and what we see on screen versus what's out there in spoilerland.

JBF wrote:Yeah... Lauren fusses at the end of the last promo that she has no clue what Juan wants. My guess is that he escorts her out early as "drama". Wasn't she the piano player?

Sharleen is the opera singer... but she is getting plenty of attention as a frontrunner. So Juan has no problem with musical talent. ALSO... one group date is all about music performance.

What I need to do is the voice-byte "thang" with all the faces. Julychild asked me if there are any similarities between the 4th episode promos. There really aren't... EXCEPT... that key lines fit each person's story. In Desiree's promo (posted a couple posts above), Brooks and others are shown as competitive "for the rose". Yet Chris is just competitive (per the voice-byte) for a 1 on 1 time with her. Also Chris gets Desiree's key word "love" and is shown competing for "The Bachelorette's" Mister America.

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Kelad9 wrote:

JBF wrote:I don't think Nikki will be a villain either. That voice-byte in the promo covering her and Sharleen "aren't gonna be" simply lowers their chances of being "the one". Note that both are cut off before the word "mother", so you know they are just as capable of being one as anybody else. Mind you, I am not ruling anybody out just yet... not even Chelsie until she officially leaves. With the possibility of ladies leaving and coming back, anything can happen. It is just that Clare is leading everybody else in terms of her edit.

When I saw the behind the scenes edit, I got the impression TPTB had slated Clare to be the next Bachelorette. Not sure why. maybe because it is obvious the cameras love her, she has that great bubbly personality when she chooses to show it and isn't being involved with house drama and letting jealousy take over.    I think if it wasn't for edit, I would like Clare over Nikki. Nikki is more reserved, and quiet. I think she's been burnt in the past and doesn't want to get burnt again. JMO.

I would pick Andi as next bachelorette. As per episode 3, she is  getting the sexy edit without the deep conversations (or any conversations for that matter) being shown to us. Plus an attractive, intelligent lawyer would be a feather in their cap. She has the ability to talk smack about (Clare) without it coming off as bitchy. That itself is an enviable trait which translated into her being "loveable". I have no clue who is the favorite "nice girl" as of now by the masses but I would pick Andi as it. If she does make it to St Lucia (no proof IMO) then she has the best chance of being the next lead.
At the very least I would like to see her on BP if they are having a season this year.

Maggenzm wrote:JBF, Did you see JPb M&M commercial on episode 2 (see link below)? Did you notice who was the girl? CHELSEA!! WHY CHELSEA IF SHE IS NOT THE ONE?

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Also, at the end of episode 3, it's CHEALSEA again being featured, talking, laughing, holding hands like old married couple? We shall see!!

grace8136 wrote:
If andi's not the F1, I think she might be a good lead too.

JBF- I'll eat my hat if Clare is the F1. She's too obvious in the previews.

julychild wrote:

Kelad9 wrote:I still think we are being misled with the spoilers and possible edits and feel in my gut that Chelsie is F1. Like I said, I can't explain why I feel Chelsie is F1, but that I do. I think it's because I see so much more between her body language interaction with JP and his body language with her than I see between JP and some of the other girls. I can't wait to see how the season pans out in terms of edit and what we see on screen versus what's out there in spoilerland.

That would only happen if she came back after being eliminated (I hope she did because she is "Ryan" in my story   ) and JP took her back. She opened her twitter account on Oct. 25th which can only mean she was eliminated prior to that date.......Sorry?!