*No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Edit Discussions

There is also an interesting sneak-peek at the bachelor FB site...

Litta123 wrote:I do think we need to see the story line show that Clare is in a place to be a mother since Camilla is such a huge part of Juan's concern...if she is F1. IIRC, I don't think Clare as a mother has been talked about in either her back story or in her PI's or with Juan directly. Has it?

Not yet it hasn't. The only person that the storyline and other girls has expressed concerns about being a mother towards Camila and being ready to be a mother is Chelsie so far I believe. I agree we need to see some sort of storyline about being ready to be a mother with some of the other frontrunners.

Cassandra and Renee- they are already mothers so the rest of the girls know they are ready to be a mother and we won't see the girls expressing concerns about that. However the storyline with them regarding concerns from Juan Pablo seem to be more along the lines of I don't want to keep them away from their children too long if I know there's not going to be anything there.

All I see with Clare is a storyline about Trust issues.

Nikki and Andi- it's about needing to open herself up.. makes me wonder if either Nikki or Andi isn't slated to be the next Bachelorette if she doesn't end up with the final rose. Next Bachelorette or Bachelor always has a storyline about needing to be more open.

Kelly- I haven't seen too much of her with Juan Pablo to be able to determine what her storyline would be.

Elsie- I think is just a matter of time girl. the only place in the storyline she has going for her is being the one to express concerns about the other girls being ready to be a mother.

Actually Elise is more than just a matter-of-time-girl. She has the backstory about her deceased mother's letter... to match Clare's DVD from deceased Daddy.

Chelsie may be the only one "ready to be a mother" (your words... ha ha!), but don't you think she can do better than Juan?

Is this dude still on the market?

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I know he has a taste for very talkative blondes.

Let's face it. Chelsie needs INTELLECTUAL STIMULATION. That is why she made Juan LOOK like Reid in their photos of episode #1.

Nope. Trust issues be damned! We all know what's in Juan's focal range. There is something seriously wrong about Juan's hand placements that is just too-too Freudian for words.

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It is time to once again put julychild in seventh heaven...

Gee, julychild, where are you? You have TWO posts to comment on here!

Juan's season...

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Ashley's season...

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JBF, I think this may be another Jason season. JMO.  He's going to pick one but end up with another girl.

I didn't say that Chelsie was ready to be a mother. Just that the girls are already expressing their doubts that she would be ready and her being too young. :)
Thou I feel that if she already mothers a fur baby and is a teacher, I think she can handle being a mother. I'm not sure why the girls are expressing their doubts about that.  Why do we not see Elise bring up doubts about Clare, Andi, Kelly?

I agree with your assessment about Elise. I think she's going to play a major role in this season's storyline but we need to determine what the storyline is. It's either got to be about trust issues or being ready for motherhood. I can't see any other issues or obstacles needing to be overcome that hasn't been brought up by now do you?

Can you bring up a Jason season MTG photo night?
Thanks!

^^For the Seoul RC, Elise has on a light green dress. In the previews, Elise is shown in what looks to be a PI in that same dress crying. At this point, just about all the girls who have been eliminated from the "18 survivors" from the M&G have been shown quickly in the preview crying. So, do with that as you will, but whatever role Elise has, I think it will be short lived.

Litta123 wrote:^^For the Seoul RC, Elise has on a light green dress. In the previews, Elise is shown in what looks to be a PI in that same dress crying. At this point, just about all the girls who have been eliminated from the "18 survivors" from the M&G have been shown quickly in the preview crying. So, do with that as you will, but whatever role Elise has, I think it will be short lived.

Who is missing ? It would be interesting to see and if we can cross check the backgrounds to figure out where ? For ex. we saw Andi with her hands over her face but that was from the GD in ep2. Plus she wasn't crying but merely scared and frustrated.

Brooks crying in last seasons preview was a clue that he was leaving the show. Many refused to acknowledge that.
We have many SCs of Sharlene crying and being torn about a decision which possibly indicates that she won't be there at the end. Chelsie crying possibly says the same thing. Do we have Andi, Nikki and Renee crying ? We have Clare crying as well but I have my doubts that is over an elimination but merely her not handling this concept maturely. JMO of course. Perhaps we should see the background ?

Kelad9 wrote:JBF, I think this may be another Jason season. JMO.  He's going to pick one but end up with another girl.

I didn't say that Chelsie was ready to be a mother. Just that the girls are already expressing their doubts that she would be ready and her being too young. :)
Thou I feel that if she already mothers a fur baby and is a teacher, I think she can handle being a mother. I'm not sure why the girls are expressing their doubts about that.  Why do we not see Elise bring up doubts about Clare, Andi, Kelly?

I agree with your assessment about Elise. I think she's going to play a major role in this season's storyline but we need to determine what the storyline is. It's either got to be about trust issues or being ready for motherhood. I can't see any other issues or obstacles needing to be overcome that hasn't been brought up by now do you?

Can you bring up a Jason season MTG photo night?
Thanks!

Here's a small one...

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Melissa is in the long black dress three ladies to the right of Jason (facing). Molly is just behind Melissa (slight left) in blue outfit.

JBF wrote:Actually Elise is more than just a matter-of-time-girl. She has the backstory about her deceased mother's letter... to match Clare's DVD from deceased Daddy.

Chelsie may be the only one "ready to be a mother" (your words... ha ha!), but don't you think she can do better than Juan?

Is this dude still on the market?

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I know he has a taste for very talkative blondes.

Let's face it. Chelsie needs INTELLECTUAL STIMULATION. That is why she made Juan LOOK like Reid in their photos of episode #1.

Nope. Trust issues be damned! We all know what's in Juan's focal range. There is something seriously wrong about Juan's hand placements that is just too-too Freudian for words.

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Now...

It is time to once again put julychild in seventh heaven...

Gee, julychild, where are you? You have TWO posts to comment on here!

Juan's season...

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Ashley's season...

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I'm here! I'm here!!...and you are right, I love it. Time to put on my tin-foil hat   

I recall that there was a debate on this board during Sean's season about the placement of the girls in the released group photo. A lot of people were of the opinion that the F1- F4 girls are usually placed either beside or somewhere close to the lead. I thought it was silly back then- how do they know who would "win"? Anyway, after listening to Jason/Molly and hearing them confirm that the lead tells the producers who his/her early favourites are, I have to agree now that there has to be some truth to that notion.

I took a look at the videos you posted JBF and I honestly do not know what the similarities are, sorry... Is the fourth episode where everyone's real intentions/personalities are revealed?... where they must all argue?...  

As for Elise, it appears that she has chosen Chelsie (blonde teachers) as a running mate, in her head. From the previews, she will be bringing up the motherhood issue with JP on Monday. She was seen crying in the season previews, so I doubt that ended well for her. It is interesting though, that Elise will bring up the motherhood issue in the same episode that JP decides to ask Sharlene about the same (he really likes her). Perhaps, this is why Sharlene will be sent home, eventually- I'm still trying to figure out why she went on the show in the first place! Like JP said in one of his interviews, Camilla doesn't NEED a step-mom but he is ready to have more children, like, yesterday!!! Things may not work out according to his plans, but at least that is what he wants and it will definitely influence his decision making process.

julychild wrote:I took a look at the videos you posted JBF and I honestly do not know what the similarities are, sorry... Is the fourth episode where everyone's real intentions/personalities are revealed?... where they must all argue?...  

I only posted the 4th episode promos for others to compare and contrast. No... there wasn't too-too much that was similar apart from a lot of drama shown at the end of each. My guess is that Allison... or is it Lauren?... leaving is the only crisis tomorrow. Everything else is hyped to be more than it is.

^^The caps show Allison makes it to Vietnam...so not her. Lauren cries in the previews for this week, as does Elise. Those are the two that I predict make the exit tomorrow. I think grace made the same prediction.

Did anybody catch the little "extensions" to Monday's promo, shown just before we got.. ugh!... another "live" shot of Consummation Station? (I'm just kidding! I'm happy for the couple, but they did milk it a bit too much on screen.)

lol @ JBF. I did. I even caught the previews for tomorrow's episode..
how in the world did Chelsie manage to fly under the radar tomorrow night? We see most of the other girls arguing with each other but nothing on her? Just find that odd considering this is a show all about drama.  I still think she's gonna be more mature than the other girls are gonna be by the time all has been said and done drama wise. lmao

I'll be interested to see how she managed to stay out of what's sure to be a drama fest tomorrow night based on previews.