Brooks Discussion Group

grace8136 wrote:And WTH happened on the roof top they mentioned over and over, but we saw nothing?

IrishGal wrote:I must have blanked that out!  What roof top?  Who?

albean99 wrote:

afterawhile wrote:

beader wrote:Mandy, I can agree with most of what you said above.  I have a feeling the whole Brooks storyline was written either before the show or as the show developed.  Actually, I never saw it with Brooks and Des.  That's why I didn't believe the spoilers--I could only see a 2-way connection between Chris and Des.  There were just too many spoken clues as well as negative body language between Brooks and Des.  "There may not be anyone left at the end."  "Would you fight for her?"  "Can she hang with you?"  "Brooks is ready for marriage-- when he finds the right girl."  Several comments about them being "In the moment."  There are lots more that have been mentioned many times.  Was it all a set-up?  I really don't know--maybe not.  But if it wasn't a set-up, a great story played out and Fleiss pulled off a fast one--that I love!  

I would sooner think the storyline was fabricated after the show myself.  Personally I never saw a real connection with any of the guys except for Brooks.  Has anyone gone back and listened to Des talking about the guys when she was getting ready for her FD with Brooks.  She made mention of the fact that Chris was 'so nice, loyal, sweet and good, and that more than made up for his looks'.  I wonder why Fleiss left that in?  Needless to say, they all came out of this with a little stink on them, and none more than Des.  Either way she looks like either the tool or the tool handler.  Poor excuse for entertainment IMO.  Hopefully they are all in a good space now, and they can get on with their lives.

I didn't remember what exactly Des said so went back and checked. That's not what she said about Chris. She said: "I love Chris' quirkiness and the little things he does that shows who he is. He's so funny and quirky & I think I love those things about him because it's so different from what he looks like." I believe she meant something like he appears to be quiet and serious but he's not.

Muslady wrote:

Mandy61 wrote: At the risk of getting apples thrown at me, this is my newly developed opinion... This is in no way a plea for you to see it my way but to maybe question a few things.

I have re-watched the entire season with an open mind and trying not to think of the spoilers.  WOW!  How could I have been so blind and not seen what was happening?  Des choose the right person to give her heart to at the end.

Now the part I'm just going to throw out there.  What if the whole Brooks “relationship” from start to finish was all manipulation, in other words fake?  Please hear me out.  My first suspicion was on their cloud 9 date, Brooks was uncomfortable the whole time; it felt forced from both of them.  On his HTD, when the questions were asked by his brothers Brooks never did answer.  Him running to her had nothing to do with their playful words used earlier.  

Then there’s the breakup, they both kept looking to the producers for instructions.  After watching very closely to the body language and what wasn't present during the break up I am really questing the whole thing.  I watched the break up 3 times.  How someone that was “sobbing” and “distraught” as some people have said on here, how does anyone cry without tears?   Des buried her face into Brooks' chest and when she pulled away there were no tear marks on his shirt.  Anyone can wipe away pretend tears to make it look like they are crying but I didn't see any tears at all.  Not to mention not one drop of liner/mascara was out of place.  I don't know about you but even with waterproof mascara, when I cry it's gone in 5 minutes.  

If there ever was a real “relationship” starting and there were real feelings on Des’ part I am going to guess she was in love with the chase, not Brooks.  Let me prove to the world I can get the guy that doesn’t really have those feelings for me.  TPTB could have taped ILY from Des for all 4 of the remaining guys and only shown the one for Brooks.  Regardless, there still weren’t any tears during the breakup.

This will in no way ever make me like Brooks any less but I am really wondering right now.  Brooks was gorgeous before, during and after the show.  Of course there isn't any way to know for sure about my suspicions but if you have the opportunity to watch it again (with an open mind) I highly recommend it.

Excellent post! Concerning the bolded, good observation.  If they were looking at the producers for instructions, could they not also be putting words in their mouths, after all they have to have a show at the end of this.  "Tell Brooks you love him."  "Ask her why she didn't tell you sooner." etc.  I wonder what Des was really upset about, possibly that her show would be horrible because all her guys were leaving.

ETA: I also posted this in the Chris Discussion.

Rolly wrote:I have to comment,  I in no way see the break up scene as fake. The feelings were raw, probably the most real emotion ever seen on this show. You can see tears on Des' face right after she told Brooks she loved him and he said "why didn't you tell me that earlier", she says "I couldn't", you can see tears. Their eyes are red, their noses are runny...Des has eyelash extensions that's why she has no mascara running. Look at Brooks in the PI after the break up, he was definitely crying. These two aren't good enough actors to fake that break up scene.

Brooks HTD was terrific and he was closer to the union of marriage than he had ever been. When they are walking to the house he says he and Des are on the same page. So many things about this HT were perfect and he was at such a good place when she left...he didn't want her to go. I think he got freaked out about a proposal at the end and didn't feel ready. He said something with his mom and sister about proposing in two weeks made him really uncomfortable....he knew that was what Des wanted and he didn't know how much Des loved him.

I wish Des in the end wouldn't have gotten engaged, that's what made the ending so unbelievable. You can't go from the emotions during the break up and say the things she said about Brooks and the other guys to being engaged to Chris. Maybe she felt she had not other choice and couldn't leave empty handed. Clearly a proposal is what  TPTB wanted, maybe there was some pressure. Des and Chris could have dated for a month or two outside of the show and then gotten engaged, I'd believe that. From the emotion of the break up to being engaged to Chris was too much of a flip...JMO.

I saw the love story between Des and Brooks so this clearly wasn't the ending I wanted. I hope Des and Chris will be happy together and that Des doesn't have regrets.

ironcat wrote:I hope what she MEANT to say, but was too inarticulate (shocker!) is that she hoped she would have been wise enough to pick Chris, because she now realizes 100% that he is her perfect match and NOT Brooks, and that in retrospect, she is thankful that Brooks left on his own and that she wasn't put in the position of possibly pulling a "Mesnick".

ironcat wrote:I hope what she MEANT to say, but was too inarticulate (shocker!) is that she hoped she would have been wise enough to pick Chris, because she now realizes 100% that he is her perfect match and NOT Brooks, and that in retrospect, she is thankful that Brooks left on his own and that she wasn't put in the position of possibly pulling a "Mesnick".