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Post by BachfanNY Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:42 pm

Goldie2 wrote:
nannymargie wrote:
bilolo wrote:yeah the fact that everybody has a source all of a sudden is so funny but it may just be a coincidence who knows

How do you figure that everyone has sources is all of a sudden.  We had 4-5 all season.  I think there might be 1 new one lately.  All the others are just confirming that Brooks is F1.
All season long there have been spoilers that say Brooks is the F1 and that they are engaged.
There really haven't been ANY spoilers to say the contrary.

After Monday night's episode and CH's unflattering remarks
regarding Brooks in numerous interviews I questioned if
in fact the original spoilers by RS and others were true.

After reaching out to specific " friends" not on
this site it was confirmed to me that Des and Brooks ,as of yesterday , are  "still together and happy".

I think after Monday night I know myself and possibly the others went looking for additional information and confirmation that they are in fact together. That's  why it may SEEM like all of sudden there are new sources THIS WEEK in particular.

Hope that helps to clarify ...

Thanks Goldie. I guess for me its just too much of a coincidence that everyone gets the same confirmation around the same timeframe.
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Post by Piper61 Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:45 pm

bilolo wrote:
LLiza wrote:
Piper61 wrote:
SueSt wrote:
Ariela wrote:
atem wrote:Theories?  I still don't get what happened from Brooks HTD with him saying he didn't want her to leave to the non-FD with him waying he's leaving!  

If you watched objectively, you would have seen that Brooks was not all that much into Des. Even CH said so. Most of it was in her head. She was running so fast, she didn't realize that Brooks was crawling behind her. Pun intended ;)

I'll give you my theory on Brooks, but his diehard fans will hate it.

Brooks was sure he wasn't in love with Des. He was hoping she was further along with Drew and Chris so he didn't have to face her love assertiveness (for  a lack of better term) in the FS.
Now he finds out that she was going to choose him. He doesn't need any more time with her. For what? All he has to do is continue this charade, and Des will be ecstatic with a morsel of love. There isn't enough time to fall in love with ANYONE, Des, Chris, Drew, Brooks. He could just crash the party at the end.....WHY,  you ask?

Because as soon as he got into the limo his wheels were turning-HE HAS IT IN THE BAG. All the media, publicity, his life will never be the same. I'll bet James' conversation came in real handy now.

All he has to do is play the game with Des for a few months, and his career, love life etc will go up exponentially. As his fans wrote on this board in stone HE IS A DEEP THNKER". For once, I'll agree with this statement.
I was not a Brooks 'supporter' and in light of what we just saw, even less so.... and of course you are entitled to your opinion, but I just can't agree with your perspective.  I think it's fair to call Brooks wishy washy or spineless... but personally I don't think he showed signs of being untruthful or cynical ...  misdirected, yes, self-promoting, no.  
I totally agree.  

Ariela -- you may be on to something, but I have an adjustment.  I'm not sure that he got into the limo and thought "Bingo!  I can be a star!!"  Maybe he did, we'll most likely never know!  But I DO think that he got into the limo knowing full well that his image was harshly tarnished -- that America would view him as a jerk and then some -- and figured that it was EASIER to go back, apologize, fake his undying love, propose, and then hope that eventually she would lose interest in the real world.  After all, that is what typically happens.  I have stated before that I think he is not used to having to deal alone with any issues in his life -- that someone typically is there to bail him out.  Faking a happy ending was the easiest move for him -- and he aided MF in making all of the viewing sappy girls deliriously delighted.

Just my very humble, yet realistic opinion.
No it's not realistic otherwise he would not do it in the first place, you guys can hate the guy but you know these assumptions are not valid and throughout the season you saw nothing that indicates what you are talking about imo but it's still you opinion though
Correct. :yes: 
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Post by atem Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:45 pm

See, that's what I find so odd. 'Still together and happy'...the exact same line?


Anything I post means it's Just My Opinion.  Don't feel like posting it every time I post. So, I thought I'd get that out of the way.

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Post by nd4reality Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:50 pm

atem wrote:See, that's what I find so odd.  'Still together and happy'...the exact same line?

The exact line.


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Post by Ariela Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:55 pm

LLiza wrote:
Piper61 wrote:
SueSt wrote:
Ariela wrote:
atem wrote:Theories?  I still don't get what happened from Brooks HTD with him saying he didn't want her to leave to the non-FD with him waying he's leaving!  

If you watched objectively, you would have seen that Brooks was not all that much into Des. Even CH said so. Most of it was in her head. She was running so fast, she didn't realize that Brooks was crawling behind her. Pun intended ;)

I'll give you my theory on Brooks, but his diehard fans will hate it.

Brooks was sure he wasn't in love with Des. He was hoping she was further along with Drew and Chris so he didn't have to face her love assertiveness (for  a lack of better term) in the FS.
Now he finds out that she was going to choose him. He doesn't need any more time with her. For what? All he has to do is continue this charade, and Des will be ecstatic with a morsel of love. There isn't enough time to fall in love with ANYONE, Des, Chris, Drew, Brooks. He could just crash the party at the end.....WHY,  you ask?

Because as soon as he got into the limo his wheels were turning-HE HAS IT IN THE BAG. All the media, publicity, his life will never be the same. I'll bet James' conversation came in real handy now.

All he has to do is play the game with Des for a few months, and his career, love life etc will go up exponentially. As his fans wrote on this board in stone HE IS A DEEP THNKER". For once, I'll agree with this statement.
I was not a Brooks 'supporter' and in light of what we just saw, even less so.... and of course you are entitled to your opinion, but I just can't agree with your perspective.  I think it's fair to call Brooks wishy washy or spineless... but personally I don't think he showed signs of being untruthful or cynical ...  misdirected, yes, self-promoting, no.  
I totally agree.  

Ariela -- you may be on to something, but I have an adjustment.  I'm not sure that he got into the limo and thought "Bingo!  I can be a star!!"  Maybe he did, we'll most likely never know!  But I DO think that he got into the limo knowing full well that his image was harshly tarnished -- that America would view him as a jerk and then some -- and figured that it was EASIER to go back, apologize, fake his undying love, propose, and then hope that eventually she would lose interest in the real world.  After all, that is what typically happens.  I have stated before that I think he is not used to having to deal alone with any issues in his life -- that someone typically is there to bail him out.  Faking a happy ending was the easiest move for him -- and he aided MF in making all of the viewing sappy girls deliriously delighted.

Just my very humble, yet realistic opinion.
LLiza,
Good point.
I'm sure that once the pressure was off, he broke it off ( in the limo) he started thinking....He has been trying to back out and wasn't FEELIN IT for weeks. This sudden epiphany has to have some other motives behind it other than realistically falling in love in a couple of days. "Saving face" may be a very strong possibility.  I watched his dumpster date with closed captioned. He emphatically stated in a PI before he met up with her that there won't be a marriage.... so he comes back all Lovey- Dovey? So which Brooks is the real Brooks?
I feel badly for her, but like you said, maybe a few months of him in the real world will be enough for Des to live out her infatuation...

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Post by bilolo Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:55 pm

atem wrote:See, that's what I find so odd.  'Still together and happy'...the exact same line?
atem will kill me before this ends omg i'm laughing so hard right now
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Post by Shadow Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:57 pm

rofl 
bilolo wrote:
atem wrote:See, that's what I find so odd.  'Still together and happy'...the exact same line?
atem will kill me before this ends omg i'm laughing so hard right now


rofl rofl 


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Post by Ariela Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:58 pm

Piper61 wrote:
bilolo wrote:
LLiza wrote:
Piper61 wrote:
SueSt wrote:
Ariela wrote:
atem wrote:Theories?  I still don't get what happened from Brooks HTD with him saying he didn't want her to leave to the non-FD with him waying he's leaving!  

If you watched objectively, you would have seen that Brooks was not all that much into Des. Even CH said so. Most of it was in her head. She was running so fast, she didn't realize that Brooks was crawling behind her. Pun intended ;)

I'll give you my theory on Brooks, but his diehard fans will hate it.

Brooks was sure he wasn't in love with Des. He was hoping she was further along with Drew and Chris so he didn't have to face her love assertiveness (for  a lack of better term) in the FS.
Now he finds out that she was going to choose him. He doesn't need any more time with her. For what? All he has to do is continue this charade, and Des will be ecstatic with a morsel of love. There isn't enough time to fall in love with ANYONE, Des, Chris, Drew, Brooks. He could just crash the party at the end.....WHY,  you ask?

Because as soon as he got into the limo his wheels were turning-HE HAS IT IN THE BAG. All the media, publicity, his life will never be the same. I'll bet James' conversation came in real handy now.

All he has to do is play the game with Des for a few months, and his career, love life etc will go up exponentially. As his fans wrote on this board in stone HE IS A DEEP THNKER". For once, I'll agree with this statement.
I was not a Brooks 'supporter' and in light of what we just saw, even less so.... and of course you are entitled to your opinion, but I just can't agree with your perspective.  I think it's fair to call Brooks wishy washy or spineless... but personally I don't think he showed signs of being untruthful or cynical ...  misdirected, yes, self-promoting, no.  
I totally agree.  

Ariela -- you may be on to something, but I have an adjustment.  I'm not sure that he got into the limo and thought "Bingo!  I can be a star!!"  Maybe he did, we'll most likely never know!  But I DO think that he got into the limo knowing full well that his image was harshly tarnished -- that America would view him as a jerk and then some -- and figured that it was EASIER to go back, apologize, fake his undying love, propose, and then hope that eventually she would lose interest in the real world.  After all, that is what typically happens.  I have stated before that I think he is not used to having to deal alone with any issues in his life -- that someone typically is there to bail him out.  Faking a happy ending was the easiest move for him -- and he aided MF in making all of the viewing sappy girls deliriously delighted.

Just my very humble, yet realistic opinion.
No it's not realistic otherwise he would not do it in the first place, you guys can hate the guy but you know these assumptions are not valid and throughout the season you saw nothing that indicates what you are talking about imo but it's still you opinion though
Correct.  :yes: 

LOL.
We are realistic (real world after the show), and we don't have our fangirly heads up Brooks' butt. handwave 
So he fell back in love in 2 days with Des, right?

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Post by bilolo Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:01 pm

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Post by Longhornfan Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:03 pm

nd4reality wrote:
atem wrote:Theories?  I still don't get what happened from Brooks HTD with him saying he didn't want her to leave to the non-FD with him waying he's leaving!  

That is easily explained and CH said it best - Brooks is wishy washy. He changes his mind constantly and worse he needs help in doing so. It is not surprising that from HTD to FD to FRC he has changed it multiple times.

What I don't get is how the apparently decisive Des who goes in and out of Costco with her list in hand and out with her purchases will gel with a guy like this.

:yes: I thought the very same thing when I read how Des described what a trip for her to Costco is like!!

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Post by Piper61 Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:06 pm

Ariela wrote:
Piper61 wrote:
bilolo wrote:
LLiza wrote:
Piper61 wrote:
SueSt wrote:
Ariela wrote:
atem wrote:Theories?  I still don't get what happened from Brooks HTD with him saying he didn't want her to leave to the non-FD with him waying he's leaving!  

If you watched objectively, you would have seen that Brooks was not all that much into Des. Even CH said so. Most of it was in her head. She was running so fast, she didn't realize that Brooks was crawling behind her. Pun intended ;)

I'll give you my theory on Brooks, but his diehard fans will hate it.

Brooks was sure he wasn't in love with Des. He was hoping she was further along with Drew and Chris so he didn't have to face her love assertiveness (for  a lack of better term) in the FS.
Now he finds out that she was going to choose him. He doesn't need any more time with her. For what? All he has to do is continue this charade, and Des will be ecstatic with a morsel of love. There isn't enough time to fall in love with ANYONE, Des, Chris, Drew, Brooks. He could just crash the party at the end.....WHY,  you ask?

Because as soon as he got into the limo his wheels were turning-HE HAS IT IN THE BAG. All the media, publicity, his life will never be the same. I'll bet James' conversation came in real handy now.

All he has to do is play the game with Des for a few months, and his career, love life etc will go up exponentially. As his fans wrote on this board in stone HE IS A DEEP THNKER". For once, I'll agree with this statement.
I was not a Brooks 'supporter' and in light of what we just saw, even less so.... and of course you are entitled to your opinion, but I just can't agree with your perspective.  I think it's fair to call Brooks wishy washy or spineless... but personally I don't think he showed signs of being untruthful or cynical ...  misdirected, yes, self-promoting, no.  
I totally agree.  

Ariela -- you may be on to something, but I have an adjustment.  I'm not sure that he got into the limo and thought "Bingo!  I can be a star!!"  Maybe he did, we'll most likely never know!  But I DO think that he got into the limo knowing full well that his image was harshly tarnished -- that America would view him as a jerk and then some -- and figured that it was EASIER to go back, apologize, fake his undying love, propose, and then hope that eventually she would lose interest in the real world.  After all, that is what typically happens.  I have stated before that I think he is not used to having to deal alone with any issues in his life -- that someone typically is there to bail him out.  Faking a happy ending was the easiest move for him -- and he aided MF in making all of the viewing sappy girls deliriously delighted.

Just my very humble, yet realistic opinion.
No it's not realistic otherwise he would not do it in the first place, you guys can hate the guy but you know these assumptions are not valid and throughout the season you saw nothing that indicates what you are talking about imo but it's still you opinion though
Correct.  :yes: 

LOL.
We are realistic (real world after the show), and we don't have our fangirly heads up Brooks' butt. handwave 
So he fell back in love in 2 days with Des, right?
👋  Is realism for a select group set forth by those who claim to be keeping it real?

What happens in the real world with these real people is the true realism, not anything we say or claim to know here.
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Post by nannymargie Thu Aug 01, 2013 6:10 pm

atem wrote:Theories?  I still don't get what happened from Brooks HTD with him saying he didn't want her to leave to the non-FD with him waying he's leaving!  

This is what I think, the guys are not together any longer so Brooks is alone.  That is not good for a thinker in this situation.  I thought his home town was great because he runs up to her, says he missed her and where you been all my life plus he did not want her to leave and for the first time he saw a union of marriage with Des.  Do you see this with someone you don't love? NO WAY!  

His brothers and sister told him things that made him think even more and maybe doubt what he was feeling was love.  He even told Des that everything in head told him this was right.  But by thinking so much he did not allow his heart to feel it.

Now when he was breaking up with her and she was crying he said he did not want to leave her, he did not want her to cry.  Bingo his heart took over and he did not have time to think about it, he was just  feeling it.  So that is when I think he realized he loved her.  

He was a mess in his PI, he already missed the moments they had together and missed them a lot.  Why, because he wasn't thinking anymore he was just feeling it.  In the limo I am sure he could not face the fact that he would never see her again.  So he goes back and tries to make it right.

I hope this made sense, it does to me anyway.
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