Re: The Final One (F1) - Bachelorette 9 - Spoilers - Thread #4

[Aunties_Love]

I feel so bad for Brooks.

I do, too.  
It seems as he developed from embryo, fetus, baby and to grown adult his skeleton system never completely developed and solidified. He has failed to completely develop a spine! And now as full adult male it seems he has pasta spine syndrome! One of the main symptoms is being mealy mouthed and tends to wishy washiness, can be found primarily moving from job to job and living with family.

WOW!  I can understand that you don't like him but that is pretty low when you don't even know him.

My post has nothing to do with whether or not I like him. Rarely do I get that far with any of the cast, as you are right, I don't know them. I say rarely, as some I do get to know.
So to say I don't like him, is an incorrect interpretation, I don't care either way enough to like or dislike him as he and I do not have a relationship. My postings are a commentary on my opinion based on what I do know about him and see on my screen. I am not the first to call him wishy washy--CH did himself.
When you make the choice to put yourself out there--you are a target for all kinds of snark and opinions.
As far as being "low", believe me I have restrained myself this season on all fronts. I think I deserve kudos for behaving!!!  

Yes, you do.  IMO.  You have been attacked a few times too many this season.  Thanks for your honesty Kasha!

I didn't appreciate how she described Brooks, either. I somehow don't think she's accurate since she doesn't even know him, and even if she was I don't think it's very nice.

I think Brooks showed great backbone by having the guts to think, having the strength to decide he was going to leave and having the guts, again to follow through with it and the strength to not let her or his own still strong feelings sway him from his course—because she did try in her way, to sway him. I know that I would've had a very hard time doing what he did. He had more backbone than I would've had.

Now, will he continue to show himself well the next episode (if at all?) I hope so.

Since some Brooks fans have been owning CH's description of Brooks as "wishy washy", I thought that it was time to post the dictionary definition of this term. See below.

1. incapable of making firm decisions: changeable or fluctuating in character, especially unable to make firm decisions or develop clear opinions
2. lacking strength or color: weak, lacking taste, or unattractively pale

Synonyms: weak, feeble, indecisive, spineless, flavorless, namby-pamby, spiritless, pathetic, irresolute, ineffectual, ineffective

Oops, there's that word spineless! Among other adjectives.  Just wanted to put this out there for clarification.

LOL, BTW, I do agree with what Kasha said. Thanks Native for the definitions. Should be made clear now.  

[Kashathediva]

I feel so bad for Brooks.

I do, too.  
It seems as he developed from embryo, fetus, baby and to grown adult his skeleton system never completely developed and solidified. He has failed to completely develop a spine! And now as full adult male it seems he has pasta spine syndrome! One of the main symptoms is being mealy mouthed and tends to wishy washiness, can be found primarily moving from job to job and living with family.

WOW!  I can understand that you don't like him but that is pretty low when you don't even know him.

My post has nothing to do with whether or not I like him. Rarely do I get that far with any of the cast, as you are right, I don't know them. I say rarely, as some I do get to know.
So to say I don't like him, is an incorrect interpretation, I don't care either way enough to like or dislike him as he and I do not have a relationship. My postings are a commentary on my opinion based on what I do know about him and see on my screen. I am not the first to call him wishy washy--CH did himself.
When you make the choice to put yourself out there--you are a target for all kinds of snark and opinions.
As far as being "low", believe me I have restrained myself this season on all fronts. I think I deserve kudos for behaving!!!  

Yes, you do.  IMO.  You have been attacked a few times too many this season.  Thanks for your honesty Kasha!

I didn't appreciate how she described Brooks, either. I somehow don't think she's accurate since she doesn't even know him, and even if she was I don't think it's very nice.

I think Brooks showed great backbone by having the guts to think, having the strength to decide he was going to leave and having the guts, again to follow through with it and the strength to not let her or his own still strong feelings sway him from his course—because she did try in her way, to sway him. I know that I would've had a very hard time doing what he did. He had more backbone than I would've had.

Now, will he continue to show himself well the next episode (if at all?) I hope so.

Since some Brooks fans have been owning CH's description of Brooks as "wishy washy", I thought that it was time to post the dictionary definition of this term. See below.

1. incapable of making firm decisions: changeable or fluctuating in character, especially unable to make firm decisions or develop clear opinions
2. lacking strength or color: weak, lacking taste, or unattractively pale

Synonyms: weak, feeble, indecisive, spineless, flavorless, namby-pamby, spiritless, pathetic, irresolute, ineffectual, ineffective

Oops, there's that word spineless! Among other adjectives.  Just wanted to put this out there for clarification.

That was quite nice, thank you! :Biggrin: 

[USAGold]

I totally agree which is why this season could go many different ways!!

To me, the key is Des saying in a VO about being loved so much by "someone"
Knowing she deserved it etc.
Finding it hard to believe that would apply to Brooks who admitted he wasn't in love with her days before but rather it sounded more to be like a breakthrough for her to finally see this person loved her all along
( Drew or Chris) and it just sounded like it was more of a lightbulb going off !

All along she has commented about wanting a guy who tells her he loves ..,,so unless Brooks does an about face( def a possibility in TV land) she choose Drew or Chris .

I too, think it's Chris !!

All I can say is that if Brooks can have an epiphany and realize he actually loves Des, couldn't Des have an epiphany and realize she loves Chris--or Drew?  I don't understand how there is enough time for Brooks to realize who he needs and loves but not enough time for Des to realize what she needs and loves.

Again - double standard. Guess we should be used to this type of reasoning by now.

I am glad this post was brought up again. It bears repeating.  

beader,

You summed it all up beautifully. A double standard and the hypocrisy of not believing that Des could have an epiphany prompted by the one guy she wanted dumping her right before their FD!  I don't know that this will happen, but it's just as reasonable, maybe more so, than this idea that Brooks will have an "aha" moment and see the light a few days later.

[Nativenewyorker]

I feel so bad for Brooks.

I do, too.  
It seems as he developed from embryo, fetus, baby and to grown adult his skeleton system never completely developed and solidified. He has failed to completely develop a spine! And now as full adult male it seems he has pasta spine syndrome! One of the main symptoms is being mealy mouthed and tends to wishy washiness, can be found primarily moving from job to job and living with family.

WOW!  I can understand that you don't like him but that is pretty low when you don't even know him.

My post has nothing to do with whether or not I like him. Rarely do I get that far with any of the cast, as you are right, I don't know them. I say rarely, as some I do get to know.
So to say I don't like him, is an incorrect interpretation, I don't care either way enough to like or dislike him as he and I do not have a relationship. My postings are a commentary on my opinion based on what I do know about him and see on my screen. I am not the first to call him wishy washy--CH did himself.
When you make the choice to put yourself out there--you are a target for all kinds of snark and opinions.
As far as being "low", believe me I have restrained myself this season on all fronts. I think I deserve kudos for behaving!!!  

Yes, you do.  IMO.  You have been attacked a few times too many this season.  Thanks for your honesty Kasha!

I didn't appreciate how she described Brooks, either. I somehow don't think she's accurate since she doesn't even know him, and even if she was I don't think it's very nice.

I think Brooks showed great backbone by having the guts to think, having the strength to decide he was going to leave and having the guts, again to follow through with it and the strength to not let her or his own still strong feelings sway him from his course—because she did try in her way, to sway him. I know that I would've had a very hard time doing what he did. He had more backbone than I would've had.

Now, will he continue to show himself well the next episode (if at all?) I hope so.

Since some Brooks fans have been owning CH's description of Brooks as "wishy washy", I thought that it was time to post the dictionary definition of this term. See below.

1. incapable of making firm decisions: changeable or fluctuating in character, especially unable to make firm decisions or develop clear opinions
2. lacking strength or color: weak, lacking taste, or unattractively pale

Synonyms: weak, feeble, indecisive, spineless, flavorless, namby-pamby, spiritless, pathetic, irresolute, ineffectual, ineffective

Oops, there's that word spineless! Among other adjectives.  Just wanted to put this out there for clarification.

That was quite nice, thank you! :Biggrin: 

Kasha,

Just being "nice" and returning the compliment!    

[LLiza]

Kasha -- in each thread today you crack me up!! You are awesome!! By the way, no you don't know him....but who here does?? I guess it is only OK to be an expert if you drool all over Brooks. I'm too old for that!!

Keep going on that roll, Kasha!!

[albean99]

I totally agree which is why this season could go many different ways!!

To me, the key is Des saying in a VO about being loved so much by "someone"
Knowing she deserved it etc.
Finding it hard to believe that would apply to Brooks who admitted he wasn't in love with her days before but rather it sounded more to be like a breakthrough for her to finally see this person loved her all along
( Drew or Chris) and it just sounded like it was more of a lightbulb going off !

All along she has commented about wanting a guy who tells her he loves ..,,so unless Brooks does an about face( def a possibility in TV land) she choose Drew or Chris .

I too, think it's Chris !!

All I can say is that if Brooks can have an epiphany and realize he actually loves Des, couldn't Des have an epiphany and realize she loves Chris--or Drew?  I don't understand how there is enough time for Brooks to realize who he needs and loves but not enough time for Des to realize what she needs and loves.

Again - double standard. Guess we should be used to this type of reasoning by now.

I am glad this post was brought up again. It bears repeating.  

beader,

You summed it all up beautifully. A double standard and the hypocrisy of not believing that Des could have an epiphany prompted by the one guy she wanted dumping her right before their FD!  I don't know that this will happen, but it's just as reasonable, maybe more so, than this idea that Brooks will have an "aha" moment and see the light a few days later.

:Welcomemembers USAGold.

You've made some good points and you may very well be right.

[Guest]

I totally agree which is why this season could go many different ways!!

To me, the key is Des saying in a VO about being loved so much by "someone"
Knowing she deserved it etc.
Finding it hard to believe that would apply to Brooks who admitted he wasn't in love with her days before but rather it sounded more to be like a breakthrough for her to finally see this person loved her all along
( Drew or Chris) and it just sounded like it was more of a lightbulb going off !

All along she has commented about wanting a guy who tells her he loves ..,,so unless Brooks does an about face( def a possibility in TV land) she choose Drew or Chris .

I too, think it's Chris !!

 USA Gold!!!   good points,well put and ..... i love it!. . ..hope you post more.....

[Pattycake92]

It's certainly possible that Des did have an epiphany that she is in love with Chris. Possible but not probable. I just think Brooks was closer to that epiphany than Des ever was. He was already regretting his decision the same day where as she is still wanting to go home and quit during the f2 rose ceremony. We shall see.

[Alanna]

How amazing if she realized at the 11th hour what a real man looks and talks and acts like and chose one of them instead of a teenager. We can always hope.


Ps: I'm sure she's with Brooks with the way she was carrying on.

[Guest]

Kasha.. I love your snark. Please don't hold back.

On another note.. Can anyone help me with this.. Was it analyzed early in the season?
Here's the VO I want to ask about:

1st episode promo VO.. "After tonight, I want him down on one knee, because I love him and I always knew I was deserving of it, but I have never felt so loved." 1st episode preview...Then in the red dress (chris LCD) we have seen her say the part.. "I never felt so loved." and in another preview (not sure which one) which I think is the next sentence.. "I never felt like" shown again, not a VO.

Do you think it's spliced? If it's not, I think that tells us the F1.

[Kashathediva]

Kasha -- in each thread today you crack me up!!  You are awesome!!   By the way, no you don't know him....but who here does??  I  guess it is only OK to be an expert if you drool all over Brooks.  I'm too old for that!!  

Keep going on that roll, Kasha!!

I just wanted to correct the bolded.
This is what I posted earlier:

I don't know them. I say rarely, as some I do get to know.

I never said who I do or don't know, did I?
Now for the huge reveal who do you think that woman is with Brooks?
That can't be our own Kasha can it?? Say it ain't so!!


j/k

[richmondrose]

How amazing if she realized at the 11th hour what a real man looks and talks and acts like and chose one of them instead of a teenager. We can always hope.


Ps: I'm sure she's with Brooks with the way she was carrying on.

Unfortunately I  agree with you. Hopefully she'll fare better in her next relationship.

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