Re: The Final One (F1) - Bachelorette 9 - Spoilers - Thread #4

[Mikesgirl83]

Geez, I feel like it's a running theme here to hate the F1.. Jef was torn to shreds last year and now Brooks  

back under my lurking chair I go :hidingchair 

[nannymargie]

See, to me, it doesn't matter if he was conflicted during the show as long as he honors the engagement after the show. Some of the most sincere proposals weren't sincere at all because they were not honored or respected in the real world. JMO

  Great point.

   I think he will because he really took this process seriously.  Him backing away proved that until he found out he made a mistake and wants Des in  his life.

I don't think there's any reason to think that either Chris or Drew did not take this process seriously. It's interesting that the one person who is having the most trouble with his feelings, is now described as the one who is taking it all seriously.  I don't think Chris or Drew are faking it or just going through the motions. There's nothing wrong with them because they didn't have to agonize or struggle over their feelings.  They are no less worthy of Des because they didn't go through all this doubt and questioning.

If Chris and Drew did not take this process seriously then neither did Des because she fell early too.

I am not say the others did not take it seriously its just that Brooks was the one shown having the struggles. Maybe the other guys were more confident that Brooks is.

[Ariela]

See, to me, it doesn't matter if he was conflicted during the show as long as he honors the engagement after the show. Some of the most sincere proposals weren't sincere at all because they were not honored or respected in the real world. JMO

  Great point.

Eh, maybe I'm too superstitious.
If something doesn't seem right, it only gets bigger as time goes on....or it's a matter of time until it shows up again. That's been my experience, generally, with things in life. DH says I brings these things on to myself. You know the law of physics-you think about it so you attract it, and it happens....well, I want to know why I haven't won the Lottery, yet.  :shocked!:

[Piper61]

 LOL, Ariela! I probably attract bad luck, and that's why I haven't won the lottery yet.

[Aunties_Love]

The hero????  :puke:   What makes him a hero??  Is it the fact that he wasn't able to decide if he liked her enough unless he was talked into it by his mommy and sister??  Or is he a hero because he left, then decided that he would look bad and came back to stop Desiree from crying??  Or is he a hero because some of you think he is "totally hawt" and anything he does is amazing??

Decide whether you want reality or a manipulated and calculated love story.  The two are not commensurate.  If, indeed, you want the fake story that warms your heart for a minute or two, then I can be talked into agreeing with his "hero" description.  For a minute or two.

 LOL, love your post! It will be interesting to see if Brooks comes back or it is another thing that we were misled on this season.

[Nativenewyorker]

See, to me, it doesn't matter if he was conflicted during the show as long as he honors the engagement after the show. Some of the most sincere proposals weren't sincere at all because they were not honored or respected in the real world. JMO

  Great point.

   I think he will because he really took this process seriously.  Him backing away proved that until he found out he made a mistake and wants Des in  his life.

I don't think there's any reason to think that either Chris or Drew did not take this process seriously. It's interesting that the one person who is having the most trouble with his feelings, is now described as the one who is taking it all seriously.  I don't think Chris or Drew are faking it or just going through the motions. There's nothing wrong with them because they didn't have to agonize or struggle over their feelings.  They are no less worthy of Des because they didn't go through all this doubt and questioning.

I agree, I don't think they are taking it any less seriously, nor that they're not worthy of Des. Each person is entitled to handle themselves in the manner they choose. There's really nothing wrong with either way.  Personally, I do find how Brooks is handling it for himself refreshing as far as his thought process goes.  Has he overanalzed as Des has said he seems to do? Certainly could have.  But, at this time, I have no earthly idea what goes down in the upcoming 2-part finale, and because of that, don't feel I should think the worst of each bachelor themselves, but certainly can believe there could be manipulations of all parties by TPTB.  Feed the drama, feed the suspense, etc.

I appreciate your response. I guess what I am trying to say is that each of these guys has to go through this process in their own way. It's not as though one way is better than another. But I have been reading many comments to the effect that Brooks is being real, has integrity, refreshing as you said, honest, whatever. So my question is does that mean that Chris or Drew are in any way not being real, lacking integrity or not refreshing? Why can't their reactions and feelings be just as real?

Some of us feel that Brooks holding back and having so many doubts does not portend well for a possible long term relationship with Des. If it's this complicated and difficult in the beginning, then how will they survive the transition to real life? That transition has derailed most of these relationships in the past. Some here believe that this is a pattern with Des that is now repeating itself yet again. She falls for the wrong guys, always does the chasing, etc.

Finally what I want to say is that maybe we don't need to qualify the way these guys are handling themselves. I believe that Chris and Drew are completely sincere in their professions of love for Des. The mere fact that they did not have to agonize, doubt and struggle to get there does not in and of itself, mean that their feelings are less worthy.

[Aunties_Love]

The hero????  :puke:   What makes him a hero??  Is it the fact that he wasn't able to decide if he liked her enough unless he was talked into it by his mommy and sister??  Or is he a hero because he left, then decided that he would look bad and came back to stop Desiree from crying??  Or is he a hero because some of you think he is "totally hawt" and anything he does is amazing??

Decide whether you want reality or a manipulated and calculated love story.  The two are not commensurate.  If, indeed, you want the fake story that warms your heart for a minute or two, then I can be talked into agreeing with his "hero" description.  For a minute or two.

WOW!

LOL.
I don't see Brooks as a hero at ALL. In fact, he should have thought about the possibility of being put in the position for a proposal BEFORE he signed up for the show. To me, having an OOPsie  moment at f3-f1 when the lead is ready for a proposal is poor judgment, and lack of responsibility ( character flaw, FOR ME). I know that the other side of the coin is that it's a quick process on this show and he has every right to PONDER because an engagement is a huge decision. What I'm saying is that a solid person will think about how to saddle a horse to a cart before doing so, and not trying to stop the buggy while the horse is already pulling it. In other words, he should have been ready for a commitment BEFORE going on the show, like some of the men were(Zak). Instead he signed up for the fun of it, not thinking about the consequences. I'm glad he's not my DH....and good luck if Des took him back.
FYI- I like all 3 guys, but unless this whole thing is spun completely by MF, I'm not liking Brooks' behavior. I do know that he said some non-committal things during their cloud date, so there IS something wrong there. It cannot all be just mfg by MF.

I agree LLiza and Ariela. When you sign up for a show like this, the reality is that the show has a concept that INCLUDES the proposal at the F1 stage so to have cold feet at that time, to me doesn't bode well in the means of a lasting relationship.IMO, he should of realized before this stage, knowing how it may end, that he's just not ready for that and tell her so, versus waiting till the final 3 and like Ariela said, having an OOPSIE moment and needing a time out.

[LoveDovez]

The dynamics are very interesting when you think about it.
All of the 4 involved(Des, Brooks, Chris, Drew) are all adults in their mid-late 20's, so can be assumed mature adults with past dating histories.
Now put them in this dating experiment--the bubble. What would you do --not being in the bubble--as an objective variable if you were in the mix? And what will each do being in the bubble?
I don't have a favorite in the mix, so I am interested in see how each handles it and what it ends up after real life takes over and the bubble pops.
I think if it were me--and I was Drew/Chris and Brooks stays--that would be it for me. Game over. I may go along with what TPTB insisted if the contract specified it, but my heart would be out.
If I were Des, and Brooks put me through a wishy washy--it would not portent well for the relationship long term. I don't know if I would have the strength in the bubble to oust him, but I know once back in real life it would weigh heavy on my heart. I want someone to want me, for me, to know their own heart and not have to check it out with momma and sissy first. Hopefully, that will change.

Standing ovation, Kasha....A wonderful post!!!!!!

[iamreal2u]

After the show Des moved to Santa Monica close to the beach and said she loved it there.  The question is then, will she make the move? Away from her friends and her budding career. Would she mesh well with his family initially until she is able to make friends of her own. Serious question, is Seattle a place for designers?

As for Siegfried, he'll give Hartsock an "ultimatum" over a significant issue that may "put a halt to their relationship."

"Chris has a major obstacle in his path that he feels he needs to bring up to Desiree before things go any further. His career path is not in Los Angeles, and he will need Desiree to relocate."

The Bachelorette's next broadcast will air Monday, July 29 at 8PM ET/PT.

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/abc-reveals-details-about-the-bachelorette-highly-dramatic-mysterious-conclusion-15078.php


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[Aunties_Love]

I may have missed a post or a few because I just don't recall seeing anyone call him a hero.  

Canyonvue did.

[agentcurls]

This franchise does not produce too many successes...the leads and contestants lose touch with reality and get caught up in the fantasy often times, and Pow! They are dunzo after the Bach bubble bursts.

I don't know why so many are viewing Brooks' slight hesitation as a bad thing when he is seemingly taking this process quite seriously and wants to make sure this is his "reality" and not the "fantasy" that the bubble can sometimes create?

Maybe his thoughtful process and analytical thinking can ultimately help produce a success for this couple post-show?!

[Guest]

I may have missed a post or a few because I just don't recall seeing anyone call him a hero.  

Canyonvue did.

She was being sarcastic.

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