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Post by Guest Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:14 pm

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pavalygurl wrote:I'm 99% sure it's Brooks and I hope he turns out to be the man she wants him to be.  I am way less than 99% sure of that.  She is a sweetheart and has been unhappy for a lot of this season.  I wish her well in how ever this crazy show turns out.



I think this is one thing that we all can agree on!

Nice sentiments. I have really never hoped for a happy ending coming out of this craziness more than for Desiree. And if a happy ending means moving on from the experience on her own, I'd vote for that as much as for her choosing Brooks. Either way she came through it with her class, values and confidence intact so good for her.

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Post by Guest Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:25 pm

Rolly wrote:Moonchild and pavalygurl, in the quote above where you say Des has been unhappy for a lot of the season...do you really see her that way? I know there have been some rough spots along the way but generally she has seemed to me to have enjoyed the season. Anyone's thoughts about this?

I know that you didn't ask me, but I didn't see that. I saw her as very happy and having fun most of the season. The bad guys were just blips. Of course, she had Brooks the whole season (her apparent universe on the show). And thus, at the end of the season, when Brooks is going to leave "You are the only one who has kept me here."

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Post by Guest Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:33 pm

I didn't see her as unhappy this season either. In fact, she seems to have had a blast most of the time. Even during the 'revelations' that someone wasn't there for the right reason or was leaving, I thought she took it in stride after momentarily being upset.

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Post by pavalygurl Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:35 pm

Rolly wrote:Moonchild and pavalygurl, in the quote above where you say Des has been unhappy for a lot of the season...do you really see her that way? I know there have been some rough spots along the way but generally she has seemed to me to have enjoyed the season. Anyone's thoughts about this?

I think it has happened before; Ashley with Bentley comes to mind. But Des has had IMO, some tough situations to wade through...I think she cared for Byran and he left, then the Ben stuff, then the Mikey and James stuff, now the tears at the pier where she is openly sobbing. She looked at times to me to be exhausted during the season...more so than just from the pace of the series. I think she was emotionally spent a good bit of the time. If she comes out happy, I say good for her. And she does seem happy in the last few interviews. At the season's beginning, I was concerned because she seemed so lethargic about it all, I thought she might have chosen no one, or that she and her F1 were not getting along out side the Bach bubble.

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Post by ImeldaMarcos Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:42 pm

beader wrote:Or it was all in the script.

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Post by Rolly Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:03 pm

I don't know how you could be kissing all these gorgeous guys as much as she did and be miserable. Sometimes I wonder if her emotional periods were more because she trusted the guys were being honest and true and then to see that they weren't 100% of the time was hard. I didn't see her being that into Bryden (sad that he chose to leave), Ben (caused conflict in the house), Mikey (cute but a non-factor) or James ( I think she felt played). I think of all the really fun times...the rap, the cowboy scene, the igloo and sledding, first date with Brooks :Drool: ,dodgeball, Mr. America, cloud 9, seeing all those beautiful cities...that girl had a blast and she kissed a lot...she should be exhausted. Did I say she kissed a lot?!?cheerleader It would be enough to tire anyone out but one heck of a good time!!!
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Post by Rolly Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:05 pm

And did I mention that the guy she has loved from the beginning is the guy she is engaged to...doesn't get any better than that....
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Post by Guest Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:19 pm

Rolly wrote:And did I mention that the guy she has loved from the beginning is the guy she is engaged to...doesn't get any better than that....

I think people forget that fact. That is so neat. From start to finish.

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Post by bleuberry Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:26 pm

pavalygurl wrote:I'm 99% sure it's Brooks and I hope he turns out to be the man she wants him to be.  I am way less than 99% sure of that.  She is a sweetheart and has been unhappy for a lot of this season.  I wish her well in how ever this crazy show turns out.

:yes: This exactly.
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Post by moonchild Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:04 pm

pavalygurl wrote:
Rolly wrote:Moonchild and pavalygurl, in the quote above where you say Des has been unhappy for a lot of the season...do you really see her that way? I know there have been some rough spots along the way but generally she has seemed to me to have enjoyed the season. Anyone's thoughts about this?

I think it has happened before; Ashley with Bentley comes to mind.  But Des has had IMO, some tough situations to wade through...I think she cared for Byran and he left, then the Ben stuff, then the Mikey and James stuff, now the tears at the pier where she is openly sobbing.  She looked at times to me to be exhausted during the season...more so than just from the pace of the series.  I think she was emotionally spent a good bit of the time.  If she comes out happy, I say good for her.  And she does seem happy in the last few interviews.  At the season's beginning, I was concerned because she seemed so lethargic about it all, I thought she might have chosen no one, or that she and her F1 were not getting along out side the Bach bubble.

I think it would be tough for most anyone to go through what they put them through. I think Des is a trouper, did the job she was supposed to do and did it well. I think she found pleasure in the small things and worked hard at not letting all the crap they threw at her not get her down. She had her eye on the finale and thought she had it figured out when they throw something at her that goes beyond anything we have seen before. She deserves her happy ending, whatever that might be.


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Post by Aunties_Love Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:04 pm

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canyonvue wrote:If Des wanted Brooks all along and he finally can put the "I am in love" to what he's feeling, then all's good. It's not that he doesn't FEEL these things for her all the time. I'm sure she can trust him as much as she always could, because he's always been completely honest and open with her. I'm sure they come to see eye to eye.

If Brooks wasn't open and honest with her then he wouldn't have the guts to tell her at his HTD that they "have a good relationship", that he's having a hard time. He tells her that and that takes guts, especially when there are three other guys that could take her away. He doesn't tell her he loves her just to make sure she keeps him around. He doesn't want to say it any sooner than he knows it.][/quote/]

Who's to say what happens, anyway? Does he really "leave" or does she just take something he says wrong, in a way he didn't expect? (Which makes more sense based on what he says "There's nothing I can say.") I think she must just take something wrong. Or, maybe he's just royally confused and doesn't know what he wants at that point, so it sounds like a letting go, but he's just confused—and her response doesn't make it any better. I must say that I find it comical that you speak as if you KNOW Brooks, have personally met with him and are privately privy to all of his feelings.  Forgive me if your personal relationship with Brooks has suddenly changed in the last few days.  I would challenge, however, that you are speaking in opinions rather than exact knowledge.  [b]The truth is that none of us here actually know any of this for sure. [b].][/quote/]
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You basically took the words right out of my mouth.  I don't understand why anyone would feel the need to praise Brooks at the expense of the other three guys. I think that Drew, Zak and Chris seem to all be great guys who come from wonderful families.  These guys do fall under the spell of the bach bubble while on the show. I have no doubt that their declarations of love were sincere at the time. However, once the show is over and they return to real life then they all seem to be able to move on.  Even the lead and the F1 encounter trouble once they are again in real life. That's why so few of these relationships have worked out long term.

The truth is that we don't know these guys. We can try to assess them based on what we see of them on the show.  I wouldn't even bother to speculate as to what happens with Brooks and Des.  But to in some way think that he is better than the other guys because he has held back in expressing his feelings, is quite disingenuous.  I always wonder if it's really about building up one's favorite.

Native and LLiza, you both have summed things up great. I don't understand how it is right to pump up your fave by knocking down the others, especially when they are good. I almost hate this time of the season as sometimes things get "sparky" around here.


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Post by Aunties_Love Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:12 pm

canyonvue wrote:
Rolly wrote:And did I mention that the guy she has loved from the beginning is the guy she is engaged to...doesn't get any better than that....

I think people forget that fact. That is so neat. From start to finish.
I don't see it as a fact till the end of the show. Unless you happen to personally know Brooks or Des and they directly told you, I don't think it is a FACT. What we do have are spoilers, but could they be false...YES and NO. It all depends on whether we have ALL been fleissed as maybe, just maybe he's finally found a way to mess with all of our heads.


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