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Post by nd4reality Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:14 pm

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Pattycake92 wrote:Zak had a radio interview today and basically said everybody knew Des was all about Brooks. But he says he's worried for her since the previews show her doing nothing but crying.

Wow, even Zak at F4 is saying that.  I don't have any preference who F1, but at this point, I will have a hard time believing any relationship if it isn't Brooks.   No matter what she says on the ATFR.  To me, the last 2 episodes is too short of a time to change to anyone else and have it be convincing.
So far everyone that was there has said this..interesting..

Though it is sad tht Brooks was the one person that did not notice that he was top of the crop for her.


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Post by Guest Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:16 pm

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Pattycake92 wrote:Zak had a radio interview today and basically said everybody knew Des was all about Brooks. But he says he's worried for her since the previews show her doing nothing but crying.

Wow, even Zak at F4 is saying that.  I don't have any preference who F1, but at this point, I will have a hard time believing any relationship if it isn't Brooks.   No matter what she says on the ATFR.  To me, the last 2 episodes is too short of a time to change to anyone else and have it be convincing.
So far everyone that was there has said this..interesting..

I thought it was interesting how he said he was oblivious to it. Brooks was right. He said he didn't think Zac expected that at all, and you could see the wheels turning in Brooks' head. You could also see that he felt bad for Des.

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Post by Nativenewyorker Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:18 pm

[quote="LLiza"][quote="canyonvue"]If Des wanted Brooks all along and he finally can put the "I am in love" to what he's feeling, then all's good. It's not that he doesn't FEEL these things for her all the time. I'm sure she can trust him as much as she always could, because he's always been completely honest and open with her. I'm sure they come to see eye to eye.

If Brooks wasn't open and honest with her then he wouldn't have the guts to tell her at his HTD that they "have a good relationship", that he's having a hard time. He tells her that and that takes guts, especially when there are three other guys that could take her away. He doesn't tell her he loves her just to make sure she keeps him around. He doesn't want to say it any sooner than he knows it.][/quote/]

Who's to say what happens, anyway? Does he really "leave" or does she just take something he says wrong, in a way he didn't expect? (Which makes more sense based on what he says "There's nothing I can say.") I think she must just take something wrong. Or, maybe he's just royally confused and doesn't know what he wants at that point, so it sounds like a letting go, but he's just confused—and her response doesn't make it any better. I must say that I find it comical that you speak as if you KNOW Brooks, have personally met with him and are privately privy to all of his feelings.  Forgive me if your personal relationship with Brooks has suddenly changed in the last few days.  I would challenge, however, that you are speaking in opinions rather than exact knowledge.  [b]The truth is that none of us here actually know any of this for sure. [b].][/quote/]
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You basically took the words right out of my mouth.  I don't understand why anyone would feel the need to praise Brooks at the expense of the other three guys. I think that Drew, Zak and Chris seem to all be great guys who come from wonderful families.  These guys do fall under the spell of the bach bubble while on the show. I have no doubt that their declarations of love were sincere at the time. However, once the show is over and they return to real life then they all seem to be able to move on.  Even the lead and the F1 encounter trouble once they are again in real life. That's why so few of these relationships have worked out long term.

The truth is that we don't know these guys. We can try to assess them based on what we see of them on the show.  I wouldn't even bother to speculate as to what happens with Brooks and Des.  But to in some way think that he is better than the other guys because he has held back in expressing his feelings, is quite disingenuous.  I always wonder if it's really about building up one's favorite.


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Post by Hotmomma Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:19 pm

nd4reality wrote:
Hotmomma wrote:
DMBFan wrote:
Pattycake92 wrote:Zak had a radio interview today and basically said everybody knew Des was all about Brooks. But he says he's worried for her since the previews show her doing nothing but crying.

Wow, even Zak at F4 is saying that.  I don't have any preference who F1, but at this point, I will have a hard time believing any relationship if it isn't Brooks.   No matter what she says on the ATFR.  To me, the last 2 episodes is too short of a time to change to anyone else and have it be convincing.
So far everyone that was there has said this..interesting..

Though it is sad tht Brooks was the one person that did not notice that he was top of the crop for her.

Oh I think he KNEW..don't you?..maybe now that he doesn't have to hear the guys "talk" about their dates...
I think that would be the hardest for everyone there..
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Post by Mimi27 Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:21 pm

Reid flew all the way to California after Jillian dumped him. He talked TPTB into letting him return, so he turned right around and came back. Of course, this was before they made the f3 stay longer because the viewers could tell the order of the final three by the order in which they came home.
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Post by nd4reality Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:29 pm

Hotmomma wrote:
nd4reality wrote:
Hotmomma wrote:
DMBFan wrote:
Pattycake92 wrote:Zak had a radio interview today and basically said everybody knew Des was all about Brooks. But he says he's worried for her since the previews show her doing nothing but crying.

Wow, even Zak at F4 is saying that.  I don't have any preference who F1, but at this point, I will have a hard time believing any relationship if it isn't Brooks.   No matter what she says on the ATFR.  To me, the last 2 episodes is too short of a time to change to anyone else and have it be convincing.
So far everyone that was there has said this..interesting..

Though it is sad tht Brooks was the one person that did not notice that he was top of the crop for her.

Oh I think he KNEW..don't you?..maybe now that he doesn't have to hear the guys "talk" about their dates...
I think that would be the hardest for everyone there..

That actually should have made this part of his journey easier. The are separated from F5/f6 onwards so there is no comparing and competing. Time to focus on their individual relationships with the lead.
Yet he says something to Des to upset her to the point of her crying bitterly and him somehow in a limo ? For that scenario to pan out his 'reveal' must be huge, even bigger than the whole James fiasco for whom she gave a second chance !!!

I'm not sure why the board is minimizing what went down on the pier so much. (HM - not meaning you !!!!).  Des certainly didn't.


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Post by moonchild Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:30 pm

pavalygurl wrote:I'm 99% sure it's Brooks and I hope he turns out to be the man she wants him to be.  I am way less than 99% sure of that.  She is a sweetheart and has been unhappy for a lot of this season.  I wish her well in how ever this crazy show turns out.



I think this is one thing that we all can agree on!


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Post by Hotmomma Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:38 pm

nd..I agree something did go terrible wrong there on that pier for sure...gosh just think we have to wait another week to see what it was...who really cares about the MTN..not me it's a waste of time...and I really don't think we will get a "new" preview..

And we have to watch her chat with the past Bachelorettes too.UGH..
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Post by black_tears Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:52 pm

Hotmomma wrote:nd..I agree something did go terrible wrong there on that pier for sure...gosh just think we have to wait another week to see what it was...who really cares about the MTN..not me it's a waste of time...and I really don't think we will get a "new" preview..

And we have to watch her chat with the past Bachelorettes  too.UGH..

This is always the tortuous part of the season...waiting for 2 weeks for the good stuff! :shocked!: 
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Post by Guest Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:00 pm

nd4reality wrote:
Hotmomma wrote:
nd4reality wrote:
Hotmomma wrote:
DMBFan wrote:
Pattycake92 wrote:Zak had a radio interview today and basically said everybody knew Des was all about Brooks. But he says he's worried for her since the previews show her doing nothing but crying.

Wow, even Zak at F4 is saying that.  I don't have any preference who F1, but at this point, I will have a hard time believing any relationship if it isn't Brooks.   No matter what she says on the ATFR.  To me, the last 2 episodes is too short of a time to change to anyone else and have it be convincing.
So far everyone that was there has said this..interesting..

Though it is sad tht Brooks was the one person that did not notice that he was top of the crop for her.

Oh I think he KNEW..don't you?..maybe now that he doesn't have to hear the guys "talk" about their dates...
I think that would be the hardest for everyone there..

That actually should have made this part of his journey easier. The are separated from F5/f6 onwards so there is no comparing and competing. Time to focus on their individual relationships with the lead.
Yet he says something to Des to upset her to the point of her crying bitterly and him somehow in a limo ? For that scenario to pan out his 'reveal' must be huge, even bigger than the whole James fiasco for whom she gave a second chance !!!

I'm not sure why the board is minimizing what went down on the pier so much. (HM - not meaning you !!!!).  Des certainly didn't.

It was worse for her with Brooks because she LOVES Brooks. There are a lot of emotions involved in him. She didn't have such emotions with James. It may not be as bad, but she's going to feel it more.

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Post by Rolly Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:12 pm

Moonchild and pavalygurl, in the quote above where you say Des has been unhappy for a lot of the season...do you really see her that way? I know there have been some rough spots along the way but generally she has seemed to me to have enjoyed the season. Anyone's thoughts about this?
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