Re: The Final One (F1) - Bachelorette 9 - Spoilers - Thread #4

[Nativenewyorker]

Originally posted in the screencaps thread in response to a post... but maybe it makes better sense here...
Just a question - Is it possible that Brooks is leaving and not coming back.... and that's why TPTB are presenting the MTA before the last 2 episodes... to make us believe, per spoilers, that he is coming back when in fact he's not?

That sounds like a good theory. The problem is that supposedly Des is engaged, and I'm sure it's not to Chris S, or Drew.

Thanks Ariela.  Are you sure because you know or because you believe?

there is no spoiler brooks comes back just that he is F1 and it's a normal season. what you're saying doesn't sound plausible to me. if brooks left for good he'd be at the MTA and it'd be a regular season like ali losing frank, etc. no need for a 2-part finale. jmo.

There is nothing normal about moving up the MTA before the FD episode. That has never been done on any other season. Even RS was saying that this was worthy of note, given that it has not happened in the past. It's obvious that they don't want us to know who the real F2 are before the FD episode. That's why Brooks, Drew and Chris won't be there. If everything plays out normally, then there's no need for them to move up the MTA before the FD.

We've all discussed the various scenarios and theories as to how it all plays out. Brooks leaves at his FD, then he comes back at the finale and Des picks him. Brooks leaves and doesn't come back and it's Drew or Chris. It's Drew and Chris as F2 and Des rejects both of them, only to have Brooks return at the end.

It appears that they don't want it to be just like Ali's season with Frank leaving at FD, then letting Chris go and sparing him having to be rejected at the FRC. So it was only Roberto there at the end. It appears that there could be some new twist this time. At least that is what they want us to think.

[Guest]

Originally posted in the screencaps thread in response to a post... but maybe it makes better sense here...
Just a question - Is it possible that Brooks is leaving and not coming back.... and that's why TPTB are presenting the MTA before the last 2 episodes... to make us believe, per spoilers, that he is coming back when in fact he's not?

That sounds like a good theory. The problem is that supposedly Des is engaged, and I'm sure it's not to Chris S, or Drew.

Thanks Ariela.  Are you sure because you know or because you believe?

there is no spoiler brooks comes back just that he is F1 and it's a normal season. what you're saying doesn't sound plausible to me. if brooks left for good he'd be at the MTA and it'd be a regular season like ali losing frank, etc. no need for a 2-part finale. jmo.

There is nothing normal about moving up the MTA before the FD episode. That has never been done on any other season. Even RS was saying that this was worthy of note, given that it has not happened in the past. It's obvious that they don't want us to know who the real F2 are before the FD episode. That's why Brooks, Drew and Chris won't be there. If everything plays out normally, then there's no need for them to move up the MTA before the FD.  

We've all discussed the various scenarios and theories as to how it all plays out.  Brooks leaves at his FD, then he comes back at the finale and Des picks him.  Brooks leaves and doesn't come back and it's Drew or Chris.  It's Drew and Chris as F2 and Des rejects both of them, only to have Brooks return at the end.  

It appears that they don't want it to be just like Ali's season with Frank leaving at FD, then letting Chris go and sparing him having to be rejected at the FRC. So it was only Roberto there at the end.  It appears that there could be some new twist this time. At least that is what they want us to think.

exactly. not sure if you thought i was saying i thought it was a normal season. if so, i'm saying that RS's spoiler told us brooks is F1 and things are normal. of course we know from MF, previews, MTA date being moved, etc. that it is definitely not a normal season.

[sfrank]

Originally posted in the screencaps thread in response to a post... but maybe it makes better sense here...
Just a question - Is it possible that Brooks is leaving and not coming back.... and that's why TPTB are presenting the MTA before the last 2 episodes... to make us believe, per spoilers, that he is coming back when in fact he's not?

That sounds like a good theory. The problem is that supposedly Des is engaged, and I'm sure it's not to Chris S, or Drew.

Thanks Ariela.  Are you sure because you know or because you believe?

there is no spoiler brooks comes back just that he is F1 and it's a normal season. what you're saying doesn't sound plausible to me. if brooks left for good he'd be at the MTA and it'd be a regular season like ali losing frank, etc. no need for a 2-part finale. jmo.

There is nothing normal about moving up the MTA before the FD episode. That has never been done on any other season. Even RS was saying that this was worthy of note, given that it has not happened in the past. It's obvious that they don't want us to know who the real F2 are before the FD episode. That's why Brooks, Drew and Chris won't be there. If everything plays out normally, then there's no need for them to move up the MTA before the FD.  

We've all discussed the various scenarios and theories as to how it all plays out.  Brooks leaves at his FD, then he comes back at the finale and Des picks him.  Brooks leaves and doesn't come back and it's Drew or Chris.  It's Drew and Chris as F2 and Des rejects both of them, only to have Brooks return at the end.  

It appears that they don't want it to be just like Ali's season with Frank leaving at FD, then letting Chris go and sparing him having to be rejected at the FRC. So it was only Roberto there at the end.  It appears that there could be some new twist this time. At least that is what they want us to think.

Actually, it has been done once before. On Jillian's season when the F3 guy (Reid) returned at the finale.

[Guest]

It wasn't moved up, Chris just explained away Reid's absence. The FD episode aired prior to the Mta and the viewers already knew who the F2 were as opposed to this season.

[SueSt]

I don't think the fact that Brooks, Chris nor Drew are there at the MTA says anything about who the F1 is.  It only tells me that the final 2 are not yet decided and that there may be a two part necessity for that to transpire.

I also disagree that Des could never be engaged to Chris nor Drew.  This is the Bachelorette and the final couple has not always been in love by the last episode...in fact, there have been fakes in several seasons.  (Think Deanna and Jesse or Travis and Sarah.)  No one but Brad has ever had the guts to simply not pick anyone because his/her "love of their life" was not there.  I think that pressure abounds from TPTB to get engaged in the finale, and if Brooks is out of the picture (or even if he is still there and isn't sure) there will still be an engagement, a twirl and lots of fake tears.

Yeah but they want the average viewers to buy the relationship.  They won't this year based on the comments Des has made about loving Brooks and wanting him to propose at the end.  No one will buy into Des really wanting Chris or Drew over Brooks.  IF it does happen I will fill awful for the F1. I really like all of the F3 and none deserve to be a default pick.

Actually I would buy her wanting Chris or Drew over Brooks. Chris and Drew are terrific guys that have great qualities which Des has already noted. If Brooks leaves it would be a wake up call for her to consider the possibility of choosing a great guy that is willing to move forward and stick by her in life vs. an unavailable one...

I agree that if that if Des did choose Chris/Drew it must be difficult for them to watch how attached to Brooks she is at this point in her journey.... still she didn't choose Brooks and they've been together for almost 3 months now and I would think she'd prepare them for what they might see in order to soften the presentation....

[sfrank]

It wasn't  moved up, Chris just explained away Reid's absence. The FD episode aired prior to the Mta and the viewers already knew who the F2 were as opposed to this season.

I know what, you are right! That's right.

[Judiful]

Seeing Brooks and Desiree crying ..and then seeing him in a car..without s lot of screen caps for the seasons end certainly has people assuming he leaves..I don't believe for a minute he has gone anywhere..I think he was just being driven back to his villa in tears over what ever happened. I think things that happens from here on out for Brooks will be an answer to his families questions...Dave asking what he would do if Des was out of his life...Nate asking if he believes he can make her happy for the rest of their lives..Jana addressing how unhappy it feels to be separated from the one you love ..and mom saying the family would welcome Des and love her because Brooks loved her first while believing they seem to be truly compatible.Most of all ..He will find the clarity he needs to know they love each other, will always be there for each other and do anything for each other as he goes to pick out that Neil Lane Diamond Ring..."The moments of having something that takes your breath away for a second makes you refocus on what's important.".. ( Brooks Forester) He's the only one I can think of who has tried to keep the blinders off in regarding this crazy process. :halo: 

[Nativenewyorker]

Originally posted in the screencaps thread in response to a post... but maybe it makes better sense here...
Just a question - Is it possible that Brooks is leaving and not coming back.... and that's why TPTB are presenting the MTA before the last 2 episodes... to make us believe, per spoilers, that he is coming back when in fact he's not?

That sounds like a good theory. The problem is that supposedly Des is engaged, and I'm sure it's not to Chris S, or Drew.

Thanks Ariela.  Are you sure because you know or because you believe?

there is no spoiler brooks comes back just that he is F1 and it's a normal season. what you're saying doesn't sound plausible to me. if brooks left for good he'd be at the MTA and it'd be a regular season like ali losing frank, etc. no need for a 2-part finale. jmo.

There is nothing normal about moving up the MTA before the FD episode. That has never been done on any other season. Even RS was saying that this was worthy of note, given that it has not happened in the past. It's obvious that they don't want us to know who the real F2 are before the FD episode. That's why Brooks, Drew and Chris won't be there. If everything plays out normally, then there's no need for them to move up the MTA before the FD.  

We've all discussed the various scenarios and theories as to how it all plays out.  Brooks leaves at his FD, then he comes back at the finale and Des picks him.  Brooks leaves and doesn't come back and it's Drew or Chris.  It's Drew and Chris as F2 and Des rejects both of them, only to have Brooks return at the end.  

It appears that they don't want it to be just like Ali's season with Frank leaving at FD, then letting Chris go and sparing him having to be rejected at the FRC. So it was only Roberto there at the end.  It appears that there could be some new twist this time. At least that is what they want us to think.

Actually, it has been done once before. On Jillian's season when the F3 guy (Reid) returned at the finale.

But she didn't pick him.  She went with the guy who left and then came back.  This is going to be different from that season.

ETA: Sorry lexforlife. I didn't see your response before I posted mine.

Thanks.

[2observe]

Didn't Des tell Chris about her feelings for him, in a letter before she told Chris H. and the world that she was in love with Brooks???  Was Des really saying that she was in love with Chris and they changed it to Brooks to fit there storyline???  Just wondering......

[pander3575]

This is probably another stupid question (I seem to having quite a few today) if Brooks decided to leave on his own would they actually keep him around for a full week until the FRC?

[atem]

This is probably another stupid question (I seem to having quite a few today) if Brooks decided to leave on his own would they actually keep him around for a full week until the FRC?

I think he'd stay, but a week? IDK. I do think he'd just be at the MTA, because he'd show up unlike Frank.

[nd4reality]

This is probably another stupid question (I seem to having quite a few today) if Brooks decided to leave on his own would they actually keep him around for a full week until the FRC?

I think he'd stay, but a week?  IDK.  I do think he'd just be at the MTA, because he'd show up unlike Frank.

In recent b'ette seasons they have been sequestering the F3 till the end. For Ems season Arie and Sean returned together to the states.

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