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^^ Okay then I'll give it a try once part2 comes out...

PS. when does part2 come out?

chloep wrote:^^ Yeah I know they love to do that(and they are insightful, though they should be taken with a grain of salt), but it's probably pretty one sided, no? I guess they just keep saying edits, edits, edits, no?.... Or did they also acknowledge that what JP is doing is just ridiculous at this point?

IMO, the Mesnicks struggle to understand that not all people have the same experience as they did.... and let's be honest, they too milked their opportunities as much as they could and played along when the whole switch fiasco was done on ATFR..

Oh yes, they definitely gave him his fair share IMO.

^^ Thanks! I'll check it out.   

Amberish wrote:Part one is out ...

Amberish, thank you for posting that! This was the first time that I have heard their podcast and I thoroughly enjoyed it! Can you post Part 2 when it is out? TIA!!  

Interesting....Here is another bloggers take on last night's show. Puts the blame on the network ...huh! Finally!

"The Bachelor:After the Final Rose: Registering my disgust with ABC
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Click on lifestyle tab then scroll down to article "Did Juan Pablo Just Truman the Bachelor?" By Henning Fog

I personally think it is EXCELLENT and expresses the views of many watching last night! I posted in another thread but don't think anyone saw and it is sooo worth the read-so sorry for the repeat.

treatmom4 wrote:Interesting....Here is another bloggers take on last night's show. Puts the blame on the network ...huh! Finally!

"The Bachelor:After the Final Rose: Registering my disgust with ABC
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Click on lifestyle tab then scroll down to article "Did Juan Pablo Just Truman the Bachelor?" By Henning Fog

I personally think it is EXCELLENT and expresses the views of many watching last night! I posted in another thread but don't think anyone saw and it is sooo worth the read-so sorry for the repeat.

I was looking on line today at some of the articles about the ATFR, and found it interesting that a lot of people were ripping on CH for being so rude, impatient, and down right nasty last night. I'm not saying JP wasn't getting his share, but CH isn't getting off easy on this one.

LibbyBell wrote:

Amberish wrote:Part one is out ...

Amberish, thank you for posting that! This was the first time that I have heard their podcast and I thoroughly enjoyed it! Can you post Part 2 when it is out? TIA!!  

Sure, but you can listen to the older posts, too.

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Adding this here as well...

chloep wrote:

nd4reality wrote:Yay - Jillian is upset also !!!!

Just look at Twitter, they are pretty much ALL upset with JP. I am sure Mr and Mrs Mesnick will be the only ones who aren't... That's kinda their thing.    

Jillian is not upset with JP. She is upset with how CH badgered him and how social media is slaying him.

Amberish wrote:

LibbyBell wrote:

Amberish wrote:Part one is out ...

Amberish, thank you for posting that! This was the first time that I have heard their podcast and I thoroughly enjoyed it! Can you post Part 2 when it is out? TIA!!  

Sure, but you can listen to the older posts, too.

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You opened a whole new world for me, thanks!!  :Biggrin: 

News/ Juan Pablo Galavis Took The Bachelor "Very Seriously," Family Says—He Just Couldn't Propose Yet!
by Natalie Finn and Baker Machado Today 5:55 PM PDT


Juan Pablo, The Bachelor
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A lot has been said (and then some) about Juan Pablo Galavis over the past 24 hours, let alone the last eight weeks.

But according to his family, the controversial star took The Bachelor "very seriously" and is "very happy" with girlfriend Nikki Ferrell, who accepted an "I like you a lot" rose from Juan Pablo on last night's season finale but did not get the proposal she was seemingly hoping for.

"He didn't propose to her because I don't think you are able to propose to somebody in just a month and a half," Rodolfo Soules, a cousin of Juan Pablo's who appeared several times on The Bachelor during scenes with family, told E! News in an exclusive chat about the part-comical, part-vitriolic aftermath of the ABC series' most controversial season yet.

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Reiterating what Juan Pablo said on TV about making a promise to Nikki's dad that he wouldn't propose if he wasn't 100 percent sure, Rodolfo also revealed that his cousin received advice from a cancer-stricken teenage fan of the show named Kimberly who reminded him that he did not have to pop the question if he wasn't ready.

"He really cared for her and she was the one who gave Juan Pablo the idea of not proposing," Rodolfo said. "Juan Pablo has never watched the show before, so he doesn't know how it works. So that is how he was able to find out that he didn't have to propose and basically do what he really wanted to do, which was allowing him to be true to himself."

The 32-year-old single dad did pick out a Neil Lane engagement ring just in case, but opted not to use it—either during the finale, taped months ago, or the live After the Final Rose special, during which he took a lot of heat from host Chris Harrison (and the world) for refusing to tell Nikki that he loved her.

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Juan Pablo Galavis, Nikki, Instagram
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But according to Rodolfo, a host on Houston's 104.9 Tu Música, he just FaceTimed with the pair recently and "they seem like a totally normal couple. That's why it was odd for me to read all these comments on social media about him talking about that this is all an act. It's not an act at all.

"They are still getting to know each other and I am really happy for him because this time he is going to be able to have a relationship with this person away from the cameras and that is going to be when they really get to know each other."

Juan Pablo posted a selfie of them apparently taken right after the taping, with the caption, "We are FREE." Today, meanwhile, he posted the message, "Throw me to the wolves and I'll come back leading the pack."

The Bachelor, Juan Pablo Galavis, Nikki Ferrell
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Turns out the Bachelor ties that bind don't completely untie after the final rose is handed out.

Nikki, who also took a fair amount of flak for staying with Juan Pablo in the first place, also took to Twitter to defend herself last night, writing, "Being in the public eye does NOT give you the right to say what you want to me. Your words hurt no matter what. Be ashamed of yourselves."

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"Keep your head up lady," Molly Mesnick, who married Jason Mesnick after he had originally proposed to Melissa Rycroft on the show, tweeted to Nikki today. "@jason_mesnick & I went through ALL of this too. It will pass...just stay strong & focus on the good."

"There is a lot of good to focus on...Thank you so much for your support," Nikki replied.

Rodolfo also described the connection between Clare Crawley, whom he also met, and Juan Pablo as more of a physical bond (um, yes, so he said) that "turned into something deep," while with Nikki it was more about personality.

"I felt Juan Pablo was more connected to Nikki from the get-go and he liked her from the very first week of The Bachelor," he said. "When I was in Miami with Juan Pablo, which you saw on TV, we talked for an hour and a half and he said that Nikki was the main choice."

But not yet the love of his life. And that's been the sticking point for fans of the show, plus observers of the human condition who happen to be weighing in at go-time.

"I think it is going to work out," Rodolfo said. "They have a solid base right now."

nd4reality wrote:

chloep wrote:

nd4reality wrote:Yay - Jillian is upset also !!!!

Just look at Twitter, they are pretty much ALL upset with JP. I am sure Mr and Mrs Mesnick will be the only ones who aren't... That's kinda their thing.    

Jillian is not upset with JP. She is upset with how CH badgered him and how social media is slaying him.

Jillian's comments.......

Where to start?! I feel like I haven't gotten this worked up or felt this many emotions regarding The Bachelor since MY season!

As you all probably know by now, I speak my mind, and tell it how I see it. I am a bit more skeptical to do so this time, but here I go anyways...

Do I think that Juan Pablo was a great Bachelor? No

Do I think Juan Pablo is a terrible person? NO

Are there a lot of things that Juan Pablo did that I am not OK with? Yes!

But last night, it wasn't Juan Pablo that got me so worked up! I was taken aback and upset with the show, Chris Harrison and all the thousands of people who said endless negative things and bullied Nikki and Juan Pablo on social media.

So first of all, why Chris Harrison? Chris is such a good friend, and I couldn't have imagined doing the whole process without him by my side. I also think we can all agree, no one could host the show better than him! But...I was disappointed last night. I felt awkward the whole time he interviewed Juan Pablo and didn't understand the strong and relentless emphasis on getting Juan Pablo to say that he was in love! Justin said it so well last night: "Just because you're on a TV show, doesn't mean the rules of love change." You go on the Bachelor or Bachelorette in hopes of finding love, but there is no guarantee! I respect Juan Pablo for not saying he loves Nikki just for the sake of the show, or to please the audience. Who knows if Nikki and Juan Pablo will work out? But in the end, they chose each other, and they are committing to see whether they have a future together! I felt like Chris took it too far.

Juan Pablo walks to the beat of his own drum, and does seem stubborn, but the show has the ability to also portray people the way they want to. I think there is a reason why Juan Pablo had his back against the wall and that's probably because they decided to portray him a certain way, and edit their footage accordingly.

I also wanted to touch on Sean Lowe's comment of having no choice other than being in the public eye even once the show is done. I completely disagree! They have a very public life, because they have chosen to do so! After the show you can decide whether or not to keep your life public or private. A perfect example of this is Jason and Molly. They dealt with a lot of controversy after the show, and they decided to keep their lives private. They focused on their relationship and building a family. And I also disagreed with Catherine's comment about not "biting the hand that feeds you." People go on the show because they are hopeless romantics, because they're looking for an adventure and because a life partner is what's missing in their life. Everyone's experience and outcome is going to be different, and I think the reason Juan Pablo seemed annoyed by the end is because he didn't conform to what the show and the audience wanted him to be.

And lastly, two wrongs do not make one right! I find it ironic that all everyone wanted to hear was Juan Pablo say he loved Nikki because in the end the show is all about finding love and being happy, yet all everyone did on social media was hate and bash. Somehow LOVE + BULLYING does not add up in my head. It seriously shocks me to see full grown adults say such horrible and mean things so publicly! It's not OK to bully... EVER, especially when you have never been in their shoes! For everyone who called Nikki stupid, weak, etc, how are you making the situation any better? Let her listen to her heart and figure out her relationship on her own. And I find it hard to believe, that all these people have only ever had perfect relationships. Matters of the heart are to live and learn from and cannot be judged by an outside perspective.

Another Bachelor season has come and gone. Justin and I took planned our first night in Hawaii so we could get back to the room to watch the show (clearly I have been seriously hooked this season). In the end, The Bachelor is a business, and here I am on my vacation spending my time writing about it! Looks like they did something right...

xoxo Jilly