Re: The Bachelor 17 - General Discussion - Thread #1

[Sprite]

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have u guys seen this? now, i am a massive fan of sean and catherine but even i can't help but feel that there is an inkling of truth to this. even if their source is star magazine.

:hidingchair

No need to hide under a chair, deel! I try to stay analytical, so here's what I'd say:
- The article mentions the source once, calling them "a source" and never mentions the source again. Usually some one is mentioned by name or at least by relation (like "brother of Sean" or "friend of Catherine") if there really was a credible source.
- This couple hasn't had any bad press written about them the past 4 mos, so the rags are looking for ways to make money off this couple. Most past bach couples have plenty written about them, often times even before ATFR (emiily-jeff-arie and ben-courtney, even ashley-ben-jp come to mind).
- Given the course of this season - Sean's last minute decision, Lindsay's similar bg to his own family, Cat's differing bg to his own, his parents being ministers - this is a very logical and believable story.

So I'm chalking this up as a fake. The conjecture is reasonable, but they have no credible source.

This is like the panic at the end of the season when everyone was worried that the spoilers were wrong because Cat got the last rose, because he was conflicted, because he was saying the same stock lines everyone had always said and will continue to say while this show lasts.

Sean stated in one of their interviews early on that he called his mom from Thailand and she was very supportive. In the abc interview they both say the same. His parents have been nothing but gracious and I just can't see them saying something so cruel as they want him to dump Cat because of her family history...if anything, being the kind people they seem, wouldn't it just make them embrace her even more warmly? Not buying it. I fully expect to see Shay and his parents cheering him from the audience while sitting next to Cat in the near future.

[Love_Me]

Sean's dad was equally nice to each of them. It's pretty clear that the family is not thrilled. Oh, is this where I can express my opinion?

I mentioned this in another thread, but you can share your opinion anywhere you want to. All that we ask is people respect other members viewpoints and follow the rules.

Sorry, for the confusion.

[IrishGal]

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have u guys seen this? now, i am a massive fan of sean and catherine but even i can't help but feel that there is an inkling of truth to this. even if their source is star magazine.

:hidingchair

No need to hide under a chair, deel! I try to stay analytical, so here's what I'd say:
- The article mentions the source once, calling them "a source" and never mentions the source again. Usually some one is mentioned by name or at least by relation (like "brother of Sean" or "friend of Catherine") if there really was a credible source.
- This couple hasn't had any bad press written about them the past 4 mos, so the rags are looking for ways to make money off this couple. Most past bach couples have plenty written about them, often times even before ATFR (emiily-jeff-arie and ben-courtney, even ashley-ben-jp come to mind).
- Given the course of this season - Sean's last minute decision, Lindsay's similar bg to his own family, Cat's differing bg to his own, his parents being ministers - this is a very logical and believable story.

So I'm chalking this up as a fake. The conjecture is reasonable, but they have no credible source.

This is like the panic at the end of the season when everyone was worried that the spoilers were wrong because Cat got the last rose, because he was conflicted, because he was saying the same stock lines everyone had always said and will continue to say while this show lasts.

Sean stated in one of their interviews early on that he called his mom from Thailand and she was very supportive. In the abc interview they both say the same. His parents have been nothing but gracious and I just can't see them saying something so cruel as they want him to dump Cat because of her family history...if anything, being the kind people they seem, wouldn't it just make them embrace her even more warmly? Not buying it. I fully expect to see Shay and his parents cheering him from the audience while sitting next to Cat in the near future.

I don't read blogs but I know Shay has one that expresses her feelings as well as her day to day life. What has she said? Has she been their cheerleader?

[Sprite]

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have u guys seen this? now, i am a massive fan of sean and catherine but even i can't help but feel that there is an inkling of truth to this. even if their source is star magazine.

:hidingchair

No need to hide under a chair, deel! I try to stay analytical, so here's what I'd say:
- The article mentions the source once, calling them "a source" and never mentions the source again. Usually some one is mentioned by name or at least by relation (like "brother of Sean" or "friend of Catherine") if there really was a credible source.
- This couple hasn't had any bad press written about them the past 4 mos, so the rags are looking for ways to make money off this couple. Most past bach couples have plenty written about them, often times even before ATFR (emiily-jeff-arie and ben-courtney, even ashley-ben-jp come to mind).
- Given the course of this season - Sean's last minute decision, Lindsay's similar bg to his own family, Cat's differing bg to his own, his parents being ministers - this is a very logical and believable story.

So I'm chalking this up as a fake. The conjecture is reasonable, but they have no credible source.

This is like the panic at the end of the season when everyone was worried that the spoilers were wrong because Cat got the last rose, because he was conflicted, because he was saying the same stock lines everyone had always said and will continue to say while this show lasts.

Sean stated in one of their interviews early on that he called his mom from Thailand and she was very supportive. In the abc interview they both say the same. His parents have been nothing but gracious and I just can't see them saying something so cruel as they want him to dump Cat because of her family history...if anything, being the kind people they seem, wouldn't it just make them embrace her even more warmly? Not buying it. I fully expect to see Shay and his parents cheering him from the audience while sitting next to Cat in the near future.

I don't read blogs but I know Shay has one that expresses her feelings as well as her day to day life. What has she said? Has she been their cheerleader?

She has been pretty neutral throughout. She's happy if Sean is happy.

[Guest]

Sean's dad was equally nice to each of them. It's pretty clear that the family is not thrilled. Oh, is this where I can express my opinion?

I mentioned this in another thread, but you can share your opinion anywhere you want to. All that we ask is people respect other members viewpoints and follow the rules.

Sorry, for the confusion.

i'm still a little confused. can those who are a bit skeptical post in the fan forum on the seancat threads or is that just reserved for supporters/fans of seancat? thanks!

[IrishGal]

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have u guys seen this? now, i am a massive fan of sean and catherine but even i can't help but feel that there is an inkling of truth to this. even if their source is star magazine.

:hidingchair

No need to hide under a chair, deel! I try to stay analytical, so here's what I'd say:
- The article mentions the source once, calling them "a source" and never mentions the source again. Usually some one is mentioned by name or at least by relation (like "brother of Sean" or "friend of Catherine") if there really was a credible source.
- This couple hasn't had any bad press written about them the past 4 mos, so the rags are looking for ways to make money off this couple. Most past bach couples have plenty written about them, often times even before ATFR (emiily-jeff-arie and ben-courtney, even ashley-ben-jp come to mind).
- Given the course of this season - Sean's last minute decision, Lindsay's similar bg to his own family, Cat's differing bg to his own, his parents being ministers - this is a very logical and believable story.

So I'm chalking this up as a fake. The conjecture is reasonable, but they have no credible source.

This is like the panic at the end of the season when everyone was worried that the spoilers were wrong because Cat got the last rose, because he was conflicted, because he was saying the same stock lines everyone had always said and will continue to say while this show lasts.

Sean stated in one of their interviews early on that he called his mom from Thailand and she was very supportive. In the abc interview they both say the same. His parents have been nothing but gracious and I just can't see them saying something so cruel as they want him to dump Cat because of her family history...if anything, being the kind people they seem, wouldn't it just make them embrace her even more warmly? Not buying it. I fully expect to see Shay and his parents cheering him from the audience while sitting next to Cat in the near future.

I don't read blogs but I know Shay has one that expresses her feelings as well as her day to day life. What has she said? Has she been their cheerleader?

She has been pretty neutral throughout. She's happy if Sean is happy.

How do you know that? How do you know she isn't furious/devestated that Sean didn't pick a mini-her? From what I can tell (and I admit I am not reading her blog) she did not post a huge happy welcome to the family the day after the AFTR when it counted. Obviously she now knows that people were stunned by her silence given she is never silent. She made her point loud and clear without saying a thing.

[Jodi8]

Has Catherine ever talked about her faith? What religion is she (if any)?

[tigertiz]

She made her point loud and clear without saying a thing.

Yes, someone here called it deafening silence. I checked Shay's twitter yesterday and still did not see a "welcome to the family, Cat" tweet.
Contrast to Brad Smith's sister Ashley Duval. On Nov. 22 she retweeted Brad's exuberant tweet:
Brad Smith ‏@bradcsmith

Up in 2 hours to do press...but... sleeping beside the most beautiful thing I've ever seen...real life rocks!! #freedomfest @biankakamber11
Retweeted by Ashley Duval

And also tweeted this in reply to a tweet from Tammi:

Tammi~TangoMango™ ‏@tangomango68

Bianca: "She's like a warm breeze." @bradcsmith's sister speaking about Bianca ♥ #Love

22 Nov Ashley Duval Ashley Duval ‏@aduval38

@tangomango68 @bradcsmith yes she is, i was secretly plotting to somehow divorce my hubby and give her the final rose #love

Wow - what a lovely statement. I'm sure Bianka just glowed!

[Kashathediva]

When a couple announces an engagement, it's just being politically correct at the very least, to welcome the new partner into the family as well as the new parents/family of the partner. This goes on with both sides.
I'm sure many of us have been there. :Biggrin:
So when you see a family who have been so involved in social media networking, say little to nothing to indicate overwhelmingly joy---it resounds. Especially when the public is scrutinizing every nuance.
I think this is where people are coming from.

[Alanna]

When a couple announces an engagement, it's just being politically correct at the very least, to welcome the new partner into the family as well as the new parents/family of the partner. This goes on with both sides.
I'm sure many of us have been there. :Biggrin:
So when you see a family who have been so involved in social media networking, say little to nothing to indicate overwhelmingly joy---it resounds. Especially when the public is scrutinizing every nuance.
I think this is where people are coming from.

I think so too, putting aside my own feelings of, "Aww, so cute, can we keep them? Can we? Can we?" regarding SeanCat, I think it's clear that his family, at least sister, isn't totally onboard with what's going on right now. Maybe she's unhappy he's going on DWTS or that there's already a wedding in the works or whatever. Eventually, if Sean is to be believed and Catherine is here to stay, they'll have to get onboard, the wife takes priority over the family/sister and there's no escape for the family.

[deeliciouz]

When a couple announces an engagement, it's just being politically correct at the very least, to welcome the new partner into the family as well as the new parents/family of the partner. This goes on with both sides.
I'm sure many of us have been there. :Biggrin:
So when you see a family who have been so involved in social media networking, say little to nothing to indicate overwhelmingly joy---it resounds. Especially when the public is scrutinizing every nuance.
I think this is where people are coming from.

I think so too, putting aside my own feelings of, "Aww, so cute, can we keep them? Can we? Can we?" regarding SeanCat, I think it's clear that his family, at least sister, isn't totally onboard with what's going on right now. Maybe she's unhappy he's going on DWTS or that there's already a wedding in the works or whatever. Eventually, if Sean is to be believed and Catherine is here to stay, they'll have to get onboard, the wife takes priority over the family/sister and there's no escape for the family.

this. sums up everything i am too inarticulate to convey.

[Jodi8]

It's also interesting that neither families were shown or talked about on ATFR. I was surprised Chris Harrison didn't ask about Sean about his mom since she had reservations, and Catherine about how her sisters feel now. It leads me to believe that the answers to those questions wouldn't fit into the perfect little box the show tries to create.
Also, why didn't they show any alone time Catherine and Lindsey had with Sean's sister?

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