Re: The Bachelor 17 - General Discussion - Thread #1

[Guest]

I think that because fitness is such a passion for Sean (and Cat), that the Hydroxycut is a natural fit. He has already been a fitness model and this goes along with that. I see no issue in him continuing to do what he already had done in the past. It is just better pay now.

I have no problem with Sean taking offers right left and center PROVIDED he does not lose himself, his spirituality, his loving nature, his relationship, by letting it go to his head. He would profit nothing by losing his soul. So I pray protection and wisdom for him and Cat. I adore them both and really hope they survive the media onslaught and the fame.

[ninu]

I think that because fitness is such a passion for Sean (and Cat), that the Hydroxycut is a natural fit. He has already been a fitness model and this goes along with that. I see no issue in him continuing to do what he already had done in the past. It is just better pay now.

I have no problem with Sean taking offers right left and center PROVIDED he does not lose himself, his spirituality, his loving nature, his relationship, by letting it go to his head. He would profit nothing by losing his soul. So I pray protection and wisdom for him and Cat. I adore them both and really hope they survive the media onslaught and the fame.

^^ This. Everyone who comes on this show has some level of an adventurous spirit, and don't mind some of the fame that comes with it - even people like Roberto and Kip are still recognized and bring in tons of money for charity, and that's all due to their appearance on the show. In the end, my involvement with SeanCat begins and ends with seeing (if) their relationship succeeds... if not, it's none of my business. I'll squee over the cute pictures while it lasts, and feel bad for them for a day or so if it doesn't. I hope for their sake that Sean does not lose his likeability with the general public or miss out on a great girl, but if it happens - well, things like that happen every day in the world, the difference is that we don't know about it. So I'll wish them well and move on. With any luck, they do last, however... and I'm sure that if they do, it's because all these fame-seeking endeavors have been approved by Cat before being taken on.

[Guest]

I think that because fitness is such a passion for Sean (and Cat), that the Hydroxycut is a natural fit. He has already been a fitness model and this goes along with that. I see no issue in him continuing to do what he already had done in the past. It is just better pay now.

it's a sketchy product. it has been recalled once already for safety concerns and likely still isn't safe from what i read on webmd.

[Alanna]

I think that because fitness is such a passion for Sean (and Cat), that the Hydroxycut is a natural fit. He has already been a fitness model and this goes along with that. I see no issue in him continuing to do what he already had done in the past. It is just better pay now.

I have no problem with Sean taking offers right left and center PROVIDED he does not lose himself, his spirituality, his loving nature, his relationship, by letting it go to his head. He would profit nothing by losing his soul. So I pray protection and wisdom for him and Cat. I adore them both and really hope they survive the media onslaught and the fame.

^^ This. Everyone who comes on this show has some level of an adventurous spirit, and don't mind some of the fame that comes with it - even people like Roberto and Kip are still recognized and bring in tons of money for charity, and that's all due to their appearance on the show. In the end, my involvement with SeanCat begins and ends with seeing (if) their relationship succeeds... if not, it's none of my business. I'll squee over the cute pictures while it lasts, and feel bad for them for a day or so if it doesn't. I hope for their sake that Sean does not lose his likeability with the general public or miss out on a great girl, but if it happens - well, things like that happen every day in the world, the difference is that we don't know about it. So I'll wish them well and move on. With any luck, they do last, however... and I'm sure that if they do, it's because all these fame-seeking endeavors have been approved by Cat before being taken on.

Yeah, I don't get why she's not getting more of the blame here for the Hydroxycut and DWTS and famehoing issues going on with Sean? It's very obvious she's 110% supportive of his decisions and probably was instrumental in the majority of them. Not that I mind, if they want to take advantage of these opportunities, that's fine with me, I love 'em anyway. I would worry for them if it seemed like they were on different pages but these two are writing the freaking book together at this point.

[Guest]

I think that because fitness is such a passion for Sean (and Cat), that the Hydroxycut is a natural fit. He has already been a fitness model and this goes along with that. I see no issue in him continuing to do what he already had done in the past. It is just better pay now.

it's a sketchy product. it has been recalled once already for safety concerns and likely still isn't safe from what i read on webmd.

I know. My understanding is that it had some ephedra in it. The formulation has changed and I've read that it is very good now.

[Guest]

I think that because fitness is such a passion for Sean (and Cat), that the Hydroxycut is a natural fit. He has already been a fitness model and this goes along with that. I see no issue in him continuing to do what he already had done in the past. It is just better pay now.

I have no problem with Sean taking offers right left and center PROVIDED he does not lose himself, his spirituality, his loving nature, his relationship, by letting it go to his head. He would profit nothing by losing his soul. So I pray protection and wisdom for him and Cat. I adore them both and really hope they survive the media onslaught and the fame.

^^ This. Everyone who comes on this show has some level of an adventurous spirit, and don't mind some of the fame that comes with it - even people like Roberto and Kip are still recognized and bring in tons of money for charity, and that's all due to their appearance on the show. In the end, my involvement with SeanCat begins and ends with seeing (if) their relationship succeeds... if not, it's none of my business. I'll squee over the cute pictures while it lasts, and feel bad for them for a day or so if it doesn't. I hope for their sake that Sean does not lose his likeability with the general public or miss out on a great girl, but if it happens - well, things like that happen every day in the world, the difference is that we don't know about it. So I'll wish them well and move on. With any luck, they do last, however... and I'm sure that if they do, it's because all these fame-seeking endeavors have been approved by Cat before being taken on.

Yeah, I don't get why she's not getting more of the blame here for the Hydroxycut and DWTS and famehoing issues going on with Sean? It's very obvious she's 110% supportive of his decisions and probably was instrumental in the majority of them. Not that I mind, if they want to take advantage of these opportunities, that's fine with me, I love 'em anyway. I would worry for them if it seemed like they were on different pages but these two are writing the freaking book together at this point.

Because they are both adventurous, it must be exciting for them to go on this 'ride' together, to see where it goes for them both. I hope they know when to pull back from it. But they are being wise, I think, because you have to flow in different seasons of life and right now, it is flowing in this direction. The time will come when people will go on to the next big thing and Sean and Cat will continue on to the next adventure together, albeit in a quieter veign. As long as they are on the same train, I think its alright.

[umngirl]

I know some were questioning how the families felt about things so I just wanted to bring this over from another thread. Good to see his parents (assuming his dad is there too) are being supportive and that they can get to know each other better.

Well you all are going to want to see this picture

Guess who were together today (you will like)

Hey seanlowe09 ! Honored to have run into the 2 beautiful ladies in your life today!

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[Guest]

I think that because fitness is such a passion for Sean (and Cat), that the Hydroxycut is a natural fit. He has already been a fitness model and this goes along with that. I see no issue in him continuing to do what he already had done in the past. It is just better pay now.

it's a sketchy product. it has been recalled once already for safety concerns and likely still isn't safe from what i read on webmd.

I know. My understanding is that it had some ephedra in it. The formulation has changed and I've read that it is very good now.

ephedra was banned by the FDA in 2004. the hydroxycut recall was in 2009 so it wasn't because of ephedra unless they were ilegally putting it in the product. they think--but are not even sure--the problem was HCA and so that has been pulled from it. but HCA is in other weight loss products so it may not be what the problem was in hydroxycut. webmd does say a few studies say it is safe now but then goes on to talk about the HCA and questions it's safety just like discovery health does. these are both reputable health sites so personally i'd take their advice and neither recommends the product. i think sean is crazy to rep this questionable product as a christian. jmo.

And, as mentioned on the previous page, the FDA warning for consumers to stop taking Hydroxycut products comes on the heels of more than 20 reports of liver-related health problems, including the death of a 19-year-old boy. The reports included everything from jaundice and elevated liver enzymes to liver damage so advanced it required a liver transplant. In addition to these liver-related issues, other health problems associated with Hydroxycut usage have been reported to the FDA, including cardiovascular disorders, muscle damage known as rhabdomyolosis and seizures [source: U.S. FDA].

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edit to add: it turns out hydroxycut has been reformulated twice. the first time to remove ephedra which of course we now know can cause death and the second time as i indicated above. honestly, would you take a product that has been reformulated twice because both times it caused serious health problems including death?

[Guest]

I know some were questioning how the families felt about things so I just wanted to bring this over from another thread. Good to see his parents (assuming his dad is there too) are being supportive and that they can get to know each other better.

Well you all are going to want to see this picture
Guess who were together today (you will like)

Hey seanlowe09 ! Honored to have run into the 2 beautiful ladies in your life today!
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hope you don't mind if I embed it on here...

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Yay for social media - it is so good to see this one - thanks for sharing it here.

Mimi

[Jodi8]

Sean was wearing a Hydroxycut shirt this morning on GMA during the DWTS segment

[Guest]

I think that because fitness is such a passion for Sean (and Cat), that the Hydroxycut is a natural fit. He has already been a fitness model and this goes along with that. I see no issue in him continuing to do what he already had done in the past. It is just better pay now.

I have no problem with Sean taking offers right left and center PROVIDED he does not lose himself, his spirituality, his loving nature, his relationship, by letting it go to his head. He would profit nothing by losing his soul. So I pray protection and wisdom for him and Cat. I adore them both and really hope they survive the media onslaught and the fame.

^^ This. Everyone who comes on this show has some level of an adventurous spirit, and don't mind some of the fame that comes with it - even people like Roberto and Kip are still recognized and bring in tons of money for charity, and that's all due to their appearance on the show. In the end, my involvement with SeanCat begins and ends with seeing (if) their relationship succeeds... if not, it's none of my business. I'll squee over the cute pictures while it lasts, and feel bad for them for a day or so if it doesn't. I hope for their sake that Sean does not lose his likeability with the general public or miss out on a great girl, but if it happens - well, things like that happen every day in the world, the difference is that we don't know about it. So I'll wish them well and move on. With any luck, they do last, however... and I'm sure that if they do, it's because all these fame-seeking endeavors have been approved by Cat before being taken on.

Yeah, I don't get why she's not getting more of the blame here for the Hydroxycut and DWTS and famehoing issues going on with Sean? It's very obvious she's 110% supportive of his decisions and probably was instrumental in the majority of them. Not that I mind, if they want to take advantage of these opportunities, that's fine with me, I love 'em anyway. I would worry for them if it seemed like they were on different pages but these two are writing the freaking book together at this point.

I can only speak for myself, but I have always said that they BOTH are enjoying the attention, the perks, and the money. In fact, I would even go as far as to say that I think this engagement is just a "try out" for Catherine (like she said in the hometown dates), and when the fame starts to fade, their relationship will start fading too. I don't know where the "she's so wise" comments are coming from - I would never quit my job to follow a guy compete for a dancing competition, and I would never quit my job to go on a reality TV dating competition.

Again (and I hate that I have to keep repeating this), Cat was my favorite on the show and I was rooting for them the entire time. However, what I have seen post-show doesn't indicate any deep love, but a mutual interest in fame and money. I hope they prove me wrong.

[albean99]

I think that because fitness is such a passion for Sean (and Cat), that the Hydroxycut is a natural fit. He has already been a fitness model and this goes along with that. I see no issue in him continuing to do what he already had done in the past. It is just better pay now.

I have no problem with Sean taking offers right left and center PROVIDED he does not lose himself, his spirituality, his loving nature, his relationship, by letting it go to his head. He would profit nothing by losing his soul. So I pray protection and wisdom for him and Cat. I adore them both and really hope they survive the media onslaught and the fame.

^^ This. Everyone who comes on this show has some level of an adventurous spirit, and don't mind some of the fame that comes with it - even people like Roberto and Kip are still recognized and bring in tons of money for charity, and that's all due to their appearance on the show. In the end, my involvement with SeanCat begins and ends with seeing (if) their relationship succeeds... if not, it's none of my business. I'll squee over the cute pictures while it lasts, and feel bad for them for a day or so if it doesn't. I hope for their sake that Sean does not lose his likeability with the general public or miss out on a great girl, but if it happens - well, things like that happen every day in the world, the difference is that we don't know about it. So I'll wish them well and move on. With any luck, they do last, however... and I'm sure that if they do, it's because all these fame-seeking endeavors have been approved by Cat before being taken on.

Yeah, I don't get why she's not getting more of the blame here for the Hydroxycut and DWTS and famehoing issues going on with Sean? It's very obvious she's 110% supportive of his decisions and probably was instrumental in the majority of them. Not that I mind, if they want to take advantage of these opportunities, that's fine with me, I love 'em anyway. I would worry for them if it seemed like they were on different pages but these two are writing the freaking book together at this point.

I can only speak for myself, but I have always said that they BOTH are enjoying the attention, the perks, and the money. In fact, I would even go as far as to say that I think this engagement is just a "try out" for Catherine (like she said in the hometown dates), and when the fame starts to fade, their relationship will start fading too. I don't know where the "she's so wise" comments are coming from - I would never quit my job to follow a guy compete for a dancing competition, and I would never quit my job to go on a reality TV dating competition.

Again (and I hate that I have to keep repeating this), Cat was my favorite on the show and I was rooting for them the entire time. However, what I have seen post-show doesn't indicate any deep love, but a mutual interest in fame and money. I hope they prove me wrong.

I'd never go on the show period but if everyone felt that way there wouldn't be a show. I do think if I fell in love on the show enough to get engaged I would move. Catherine's career appears to be portable so she can find something wherever she lives. I don't get the feeling that this couple is pulling a Jake/Vienna. We all knew at the end of that show that it wasn't a love story. It's subjective but I do think this one is real and money will get them started. Chris, Jillian, Melissa all have shown that living where you want and being on tv are not mutually exclusive. I guess time will tell.

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