Re: Episode 8 (HTD's) - 2/18 - Bachelor 17 - Discussion - Spoilers

by Jaybird Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:42 am

california90 wrote:
Archer23 wrote:IDK, I guess I see this differently from a lot of people, and I'm not bothered that Sean is so torn at this point. More than anything, I'm feeling like he was really thoughtful about this process -- open to all the women, and really considering whether they could fit into his life and he into theirs. Once he explained to Chris why he was wavering on Catherine, it actually made me respect his choices more.

Not that we would know from what they've shown us on screen, but they've obviously had discussions about her career goals and ambitions. Sean has talked a lot about wanting a smart woman, but I'm not sure if he ever saw himself ending up with an ambitious one. So it would be a very real and legitimate concern for him (a) whether Catherine was ready to potentially change her life around for a relationship and (b) whether he could see himself with a career girl instead of a potential SAHM. They are always so giddy around each other that I give him a lot of credit for being able to step back from that and really assess their potential future and the sacrifices they may both have to make.

I don't get the sense that he's in la-la land, thinking that the "next steps" beyond the show are going to be a piece of cake, and I like that. I like it a lot. I don't know if I remember seeing a Bachelor give such careful consideration to how the ladies might fit into his life and vice versa. It may not make for the best televised "love story," but it gives me a lot more confidence about the post-show relationship.

I guess I'm weird that way. :Smiley:

You're not weird, I totally agree!

Samesies!

I can see how Cat's sisters really gave him a lot to think about. Hell, they even made me concerned about her but what they said was nothing like what we've seen of how she is around Sean.
I know it's expected for families to know best, but honestly, when people close to me hear my take on who my mom is and then later meet her, they say that she was so not what they thought she would be based on what I portrayed. Same goes for how people react to me if they've heard my sister's view of me. Not bad, just different. And there's nothing earth shattering about our relationships that have created a skewed view of us.
I think it's pretty normal.

I think it shows Sean was serious about Cat if it shook him up to hear it. If he got scared that she might be too self interested and career driven then I bet we see it work out in the next two epis. :drama

by Jeepers Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:42 am

And now we know why Leley is in Seattle with Catherine ... Lots of moral support from a bestie

by Barbarossa Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:43 am

umngirl wrote:
Barbarossa wrote:
coloured123 wrote:just something.... Is Catherine the only one left who hasnt said that she 'loves' sean?

I believe you are correct.

And something tells me when she does say it, it will be a big moment.

Yeah, that moment might just be game, set, match.

by Ladybug82 Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:47 am

Archer23 wrote:IDK, I guess I see this differently from a lot of people, and I'm not bothered that Sean is so torn at this point. More than anything, I'm feeling like he was really thoughtful about this process -- open to all the women, and really considering whether they could fit into his life and he into theirs. Once he explained to Chris why he was wavering on Catherine, it actually made me respect his choices more.

Not that we would know from what they've shown us on screen, but they've obviously had discussions about her career goals and ambitions. Sean has talked a lot about wanting a smart woman, but I'm not sure if he ever saw himself ending up with an ambitious one. So it would be a very real and legitimate concern for him (a) whether Catherine was ready to potentially change her life around for a relationship and (b) whether he could see himself with a career girl instead of a potential SAHM. They are always so giddy around each other that I give him a lot of credit for being able to step back from that and really assess their potential future and the sacrifices they may both have to make.

I don't get the sense that he's in la-la land, thinking that the "next steps" beyond the show are going to be a piece of cake, and I like that. I like it a lot. I don't know if I remember seeing a Bachelor give such careful consideration to how the ladies might fit into his life and vice versa. It may not make for the best televised "love story," but it gives me a lot more confidence about the post-show relationship.

I guess I'm weird that way. :Smiley:

Great post! I agree with you!

by Litta123 Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:48 am

Catdwoman50 wrote:
coloured123 wrote:just something.... Is Catherine the only one left who hasnt said that she 'loves' sean?

I believe Lindsay said she loved Sean when he was leaving her parent's home.

Actually, I think Lindsay said she was falling in love with him, so not quite there yet.

by Laurabadora14 Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:52 am

CHO wrote:What about Leslie - is she not in contention any more ? I really was impressed by her - seemed smart, secure, confident - and beautiful !

Pretty much everything related to the 'Ette is just speculation so far. Its likely it will be Lindsay and it goes from there in the elimination order Lesley would be in 4th with regard to that. I want her to be it too but who knows right now who it will be...

Archer23 wrote:IDK, I guess I see this differently from a lot of people, and I'm not bothered that Sean is so torn at this point. More than anything, I'm feeling like he was really thoughtful about this process -- open to all the women, and really considering whether they could fit into his life and he into theirs. Once he explained to Chris why he was wavering on Catherine, it actually made me respect his choices more.

Not that we would know from what they've shown us on screen, but they've obviously had discussions about her career goals and ambitions. Sean has talked a lot about wanting a smart woman, but I'm not sure if he ever saw himself ending up with an ambitious one. So it would be a very real and legitimate concern for him (a) whether Catherine was ready to potentially change her life around for a relationship and (b) whether he could see himself with a career girl instead of a potential SAHM. They are always so giddy around each other that I give him a lot of credit for being able to step back from that and really assess their potential future and the sacrifices they may both have to make.

I don't get the sense that he's in la-la land, thinking that the "next steps" beyond the show are going to be a piece of cake, and I like that. I like it a lot. I don't know if I remember seeing a Bachelor give such careful consideration to how the ladies might fit into his life and vice versa. It may not make for the best televised "love story," but it gives me a lot more confidence about the post-show relationship.

I guess I'm weird that way. :Smiley:

I totally agree! Hugesmile

umngirl wrote:So the final rise is between the two toughest HTD. Shocking I tell you. Absolutely shocking.

Your commentary tonight has been fantastic! bestbud!

Thanks for being so awesome!

umngirl wrote:
Barbarossa wrote:
coloured123 wrote:just something.... Is Catherine the only one left who hasnt said that she 'loves' sean?

I believe you are correct.

And something tells me when she does say it, it will be a big moment.

I agree. I keep getting the feeling that this will be like Roberto. When he told Ali I melted so bad! :Flirty:

by marriedtoabaritone Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:54 am

Jaybird wrote:
california90 wrote:
Archer23 wrote:IDK, I guess I see this differently from a lot of people, and I'm not bothered that Sean is so torn at this point. More than anything, I'm feeling like he was really thoughtful about this process -- open to all the women, and really considering whether they could fit into his life and he into theirs. Once he explained to Chris why he was wavering on Catherine, it actually made me respect his choices more.

Not that we would know from what they've shown us on screen, but they've obviously had discussions about her career goals and ambitions. Sean has talked a lot about wanting a smart woman, but I'm not sure if he ever saw himself ending up with an ambitious one. So it would be a very real and legitimate concern for him (a) whether Catherine was ready to potentially change her life around for a relationship and (b) whether he could see himself with a career girl instead of a potential SAHM. They are always so giddy around each other that I give him a lot of credit for being able to step back from that and really assess their potential future and the sacrifices they may both have to make.

I don't get the sense that he's in la-la land, thinking that the "next steps" beyond the show are going to be a piece of cake, and I like that. I like it a lot. I don't know if I remember seeing a Bachelor give such careful consideration to how the ladies might fit into his life and vice versa. It may not make for the best televised "love story," but it gives me a lot more confidence about the post-show relationship.

I guess I'm weird that way. :Smiley:

You're not weird, I totally agree!

Samesies!
I can see how Cat's sisters really gave him a lot to think about. Hell, they even made me concerned about her but what they said was nothing like what we've seen of how she is around Sean.
I know it's expected for families to know best, but honestly, when people close to me hear my take on who my mom is and then later meet her, they say that she was so not what they thought she would be based on what I portrayed. Same goes for how people react to me if they've heard my sister's view of me. Not bad, just different. And there's nothing earth shattering about our relationships that have created a skewed view of us.
I think it's pretty normal.

I think it shows Sean was serious about Cat if it shook him up to hear it. If he got scared that she might be too self interested and career driven then I bet we see it work out in the next two epis.

Well I have to say that my husband knows me much better and brings out a completely different side than the "me" my family knows. Maybe that's what was confusing to Sean (and Catherine)...the beginning of their relationship was different than what they had previously experienced or expected.

by RealityEscape Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:00 am

Just got back on instead of bed - cuz saw Sean's tweet too that said his pick is Incredible. That's the clarity we need. She has more depth - not just wanting the white picket fence. That's a challenge and a lifetime that's interesting. Doesn't want to ever let her go. Hope she feels that way about him too long term. Haven't totally figured out yet how much depth Sean has - they over-produce him.

And Lesley's in Seattle - very cool!! Didn't know that. Sean's should be done with his tweeting obligation soon. Wonder if that means when the "phone" rings Lesley will have a clear answer if doesn't already know the end already.

by pbmax Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:02 am

First I wanna say Sean is looking good this season, he is a nice looking dude :yes:

I think Desiree is working hard to get the bachelorette gig (I don't blame her though)brother in on it, to help her out.
I know you all don't believe all that crap, that Sean is so confused on who to pick
he knows who he want, that's just what they want you to think. they changed this season up a lot. But I see through all their antics.
From what I see in the previews of next week, we'll see why I say Sean was just talking crock but that boy looks good.

by Kwpn12 Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:05 am

Very disappointed in this episode and this entire season. That is all.

by Archer23 Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:05 am

jcrbil wrote:[snip]

As for how Catherine feels while watching tonight.... I don't see Sean with any closer connection than with Catherine. And she knows then end.... she knows what happened at the RC and in Thailand.... and since. Unlike some of the bachelors who sort of check out after the filming (Brad, Ben), I don't get the impression that Sean is. He comes from a family where the husband and wife know how to work on their marriages- he will not take the woman he loves for granted. So if she has any trouble tonight (and I don't think she's seeing anything she doesn't know about), Sean will be on the other end of the line.

ICAM. Every season, people say they feel bad for the F1 seeing whatever they're seeing on TV that week. But unless you're seeing a side of someone you don't even recognize on screen (á la Ben, with Courtney) it just seems kind of silly to let an edited TV show have more sway over your relationship than the actual relationship itself. Regardless of what we're seeing in a 2 hour show every week, the F1 actually lived through the real version of events. They know about all the un-aired conversations that we're not seeing and all the special moments that led up to them being chosen. Unlike us, they don't have to speculate and fill in the blanks and try to sleuth why they ended up being the F1. Not to mention that Sean's F1 has had an additional 4 months post-show to build her relationship with him. If I were sitting at home knowing that Sean did, in fact, pick me, I don't think I'd care that much whether viewers could predict that he was going to pick me.

by Barbarossa Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:06 am

RealityEscape wrote:Just got back on instead of bed - cuz saw Sean's tweet too that said his pick is Incredible. That's the clarity we need. She has more depth - not just wanting the white picket fence. That's a challenge and a lifetime that's interesting. Doesn't want to ever let her go. Hope she feels that way about him too long term. Haven't totally figured out yet how much depth Sean has - they over-produce him.

And Lesley's in Seattle - very cool!! Didn't know that. Sean's should be done with his tweeting obligation soon. Wonder if that means when the "phone" rings Lesley will have a clear answer if doesn't already know the end already.

Where was this? I just checked his entire thread.

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