Episode 8 (HTD's) - 2/18 - Bachelor 17 - Discussion - Spoilers

hmmmm
Mike Fleiss ‏@fleissmeister
No state in the union has produced more bachelorettes than Texas...

Catdwoman50 wrote:

coloured123 wrote:just something.... Is Catherine the only one left who hasnt said that she 'loves' sean?

I believe Lindsay said she loved Sean when he was leaving her parent's home.

Lindsay said that she was fallingin love. So she's not there just yet.

Barbarossa wrote:

RealityEscape wrote:Just got back on instead of bed - cuz saw Sean's tweet too that said his pick is Incredible. That's the clarity we need. She has more depth - not just wanting the white picket fence. That's a challenge and a lifetime that's interesting. Doesn't want to ever let her go. Hope she feels that way about him too long term. Haven't totally figured out yet how much depth Sean has - they over-produce him.

And Lesley's in Seattle - very cool!! Didn't know that. Sean's should be done with his tweeting obligation soon. Wonder if that means when the "phone" rings Lesley will have a clear answer if doesn't already know the end already.

Where was this? I just checked his entire thread.

I actually think he was saying that Des is an incredible woman- but not his wife.

truelovealways wrote:hmmmm
Mike Fleiss ‏@fleissmeister
No state in the union has produced more bachelorettes than Texas...

Ooooo that MF..... Such a tease LOL

Archer23 wrote:

jcrbil wrote:[snip]

As for how Catherine feels while watching tonight.... I don't see Sean with any closer connection than with Catherine. And she knows then end.... she knows what happened at the RC and in Thailand.... and since. Unlike some of the bachelors who sort of check out after the filming (Brad, Ben), I don't get the impression that Sean is. He comes from a family where the husband and wife know how to work on their marriages- he will not take the woman he loves for granted. So if she has any trouble tonight (and I don't think she's seeing anything she doesn't know about), Sean will be on the other end of the line.

ICAM. Every season, people say they feel bad for the F1 seeing whatever they're seeing on TV that week. But unless you're seeing a side of someone you don't even recognize on screen (á la Ben, with Courtney) it just seems kind of silly to let an edited TV show have more sway over your relationship than the actual relationship itself. Regardless of what we're seeing in a 2 hour show every week, the F1 actually lived through the real version of events. They know about all the un-aired conversations that we're not seeing and all the special moments that led up to them being chosen. Unlike us, they don't have to speculate and fill in the blanks and try to sleuth why they ended up being the F1. Not to mention that Sean's F1 has had an additional 4 months post-show to build her relationship with him. If I were sitting at home knowing that Sean did, in fact, pick me, I don't think I'd care that much whether viewers could predict that he was going to pick me.

yes yes yes, a million times yes.

jcrbil wrote:

Barbarossa wrote:

RealityEscape wrote:Just got back on instead of bed - cuz saw Sean's tweet too that said his pick is Incredible. That's the clarity we need. She has more depth - not just wanting the white picket fence. That's a challenge and a lifetime that's interesting. Doesn't want to ever let her go. Hope she feels that way about him too long term. Haven't totally figured out yet how much depth Sean has - they over-produce him.

And Lesley's in Seattle - very cool!! Didn't know that. Sean's should be done with his tweeting obligation soon. Wonder if that means when the "phone" rings Lesley will have a clear answer if doesn't already know the end already.

Where was this? I just checked his entire thread.

I actually think he was saying that Des is an incredible woman- but not his wife.

I saw that. But nothing about his pick being incredible. It was nice shout out to Des but that was all.

Jeepers wrote:

truelovealways wrote:hmmmm
Mike Fleiss ‏@fleissmeister
No state in the union has produced more bachelorettes than Texas...

Ooooo that MF..... Such a tease LOL

He tweeted that as they're showing AshLee's HTD... I think he's talking about all bachelorettes not just leads (because I don't think many of them have been from Texas).

Kwpn12 wrote:Very disappointed in this episode and this entire season. That is all.

FROM AGLAEA: me too. very.

pbmax wrote:First I wanna say Sean is looking good this season, he is a nice looking dude I think Desiree is working hard to get the bachelorette gig (I don't blame her though)brother in on it, to help her out.
I know you all don't believe all that crap, that Sean is so confused on who to pick
he knows who he want, that's just what they want you to think. they changed this season up a lot. But I see through all their antics.From what I see in the previews of next week, we'll see why I say Sean was just talking crock but that boy looks good.

I agree. The drama with Tierra was over. The producers needed to create a new drama and plant more doubts about the F1. I'm with you, Sean never had any intention of letting Catherine go at F4.

Archer23 wrote:

jcrbil wrote:[snip]

As for how Catherine feels while watching tonight.... I don't see Sean with any closer connection than with Catherine. And she knows then end.... she knows what happened at the RC and in Thailand.... and since. Unlike some of the bachelors who sort of check out after the filming (Brad, Ben), I don't get the impression that Sean is. He comes from a family where the husband and wife know how to work on their marriages- he will not take the woman he loves for granted. So if she has any trouble tonight (and I don't think she's seeing anything she doesn't know about), Sean will be on the other end of the line.

ICAM. Every season, people say they feel bad for the F1 seeing whatever they're seeing on TV that week. But unless you're seeing a side of someone you don't even recognize on screen (á la Ben, with Courtney) it just seems kind of silly to let an edited TV show have more sway over your relationship than the actual relationship itself. Regardless of what we're seeing in a 2 hour show every week, the F1 actually lived through the real version of events. They know about all the un-aired conversations that we're not seeing and all the special moments that led up to them being chosen. Unlike us, they don't have to speculate and fill in the blanks and try to sleuth why they ended up being the F1. Not to mention that Sean's F1 has had an additional 4 months post-show to build her relationship with him. If I were sitting at home knowing that Sean did, in fact, pick me, I don't think I'd care that much whether viewers could predict that he was going to pick me.

You're on a roll tonight, Archer.

I'm not sure why there's so much woe about tonight's episode. We knew that Catherine needed a doubt other than we haven't seen much of her. I thought her family was fine. Her sisters were very outspoken but overall his visit was good and the family was welcoming. Don't forget about the first part of the date. I've never seen Sean so loose and having fun. He glows as much as Catherine does. I don't see nearly as much with the others.

Very few Bach/ette shows are obvious at this point in the season. Often there are fans of the f1, 2, & 3 who are arguing for their person right until the end. Been there, done that.

Lindsay seems like a fun but very young woman. I know she's probably the lead but nothing tonight makes me think she'd be a good one. Desiree had a tough time tonight. Maybe it will boost her chance.

Soph, I know you're in another time zone (continent, even!) and I can't recall if you even always read the episode threads, and I'm not asking you to giveaway anything you can't from your conversations with Catherine's dad, but given that he's living relatively near the FRC destination (and for that matter, Catherine's mom's side of the family is from that (general) part of the world, do you have any thoughts on if they might do what they did Deanna's season and fly out Catherine's dad (since he's the only father Sean didn't get to ask - though I guess Jason did it by Skype/phone with Melissa's folks who weren't willing to be on the show) or even her mom, since he didn't really get an outright answer from her?

As I was rewatching as it aired on the west coast and actually saw Sean's interaction with Cat's mom, and then thought about where her dad was, just made me wonder... (especially since it IS a little interesting that the FRC happens to occur in a place where Catherine gets to fulfill a lifelong dream of hers...)

KIKORA .. I caught thT as well .. And that may be a possibility I bet