Episode 8 (HTD's) - 2/18 - Bachelor 17 - Discussion - Spoilers

ThankMeLater wrote:Also to add on i remember in the previews he was wearing the same tie as last night ep and he looked upset and said " I think I made a mistake" so i'm pretty sure that had to do with letting des go but they didn't show it.

Adding on to you, TML, I can't understand Harrison this season: First, he says last week that Cat's reaction to Les' departure was "weird" or "odd" (I can't remember the quote), and now, this week, he's talking about Sean letting go of the "love of his life". That's a strong statement. He also wondered in an interview if Sean would ever admit that he regrets that decision to let go of Dez. Maybe the show is working against them for some reason.

I do find the live ATFR interesting in light of last season's. Add to that this extra special...Weird!

veg_out wrote:

ThankMeLater wrote:Also to add on i remember in the previews he was wearing the same tie as last night ep and he looked upset and said " I think I made a mistake" so i'm pretty sure that had to do with letting des go but they didn't show it.

Adding on to you, TML, I can't understand Harrison this season: First, he says last week that Cat's reaction to Les' departure was "weird" or "odd" (I can't remember the quote), and now, this week, he's talking about Sean letting go of the "love of his life". That's a strong statement. He also wondered in an interview if Sean would ever admit that he regrets that decision to let go of Dez. Maybe the show is working against them for some reason.

I do find the live ATFR interesting in light of last season's. Add to that this extra special...Weird!

Chris Harrison is paid to promote the drama in the show- and he follows the edit even though he knows the real life.

I put, probably on another thread that the statement "I think I made a mistake" could be taken from him saying, "I hope I don't wake up in the morning and think I made a mistake".... the editors do that kind of thing. (And Sean admits in his blog that Dez' appeal did have some effect on him, but he knew for her to stay meant another would have to go (someone who he did not want to go).

northernviewer wrote:I wonder how Catharine felt watching last night, knowing that Sean pretty much did a coin toss to see if her or Desiree were going home? Haven't read the board in a few days... but wondering if everybody is still saying that they could still "see" the love between them on their last few dates????.... cuz after Sean almost eliminating her..... I'm thinking it just didn't exist at the time. Wonder what happened in the FS that got him to changes his mind??

also, how does a guy propose to a girl after liking 2 other girls better than her up until a week or so before he gets down on one knee??? kinda ridiculous to me

That was all for drama sake. Sean knew Cat wasn't going anywhere , same as the people that have watched closely this season knew it was all MF and none of Sean other than him having to go along with it. Kinda convenient to already have those two girls pictures together, wouldn't you say??????

Another thing that they concentrated on was Des telling Sean that he was making a mistake... this was repeated many times... very reminiscent of Molly's words to Jason. Has there been any hint of Desiree returning?? I sure hope not! OR could it be foreshadowing Sean and Cat's breakup due to him not being sure if he made the right decisions along the way? hhmmmmmm

LoveDovez wrote:

northernviewer wrote:I wonder how Catharine felt watching last night, knowing that Sean pretty much did a coin toss to see if her or Desiree were going home? Haven't read the board in a few days... but wondering if everybody is still saying that they could still "see" the love between them on their last few dates????.... cuz after Sean almost eliminating her..... I'm thinking it just didn't exist at the time. Wonder what happened in the FS that got him to changes his mind??

also, how does a guy propose to a girl after liking 2 other girls better than her up until a week or so before he gets down on one knee??? kinda ridiculous to me

That was all for drama sake. Sean knew Cat wasn't going anywhere , same as the people that have watched closely this season knew it was all MF and none of Sean other than him having to go along with it. Kinda convenient to already have those two girls pictures together, wouldn't you say??????

So you're saying Sean's a liar and willing to hurt his F1 to make MF happy?

I don't think it was for drama. I think this is exactly how it all played out. I think family is really important to Sean and their opinions really matter to him.

jcrbil wrote:

veg_out wrote:

ThankMeLater wrote:Also to add on i remember in the previews he was wearing the same tie as last night ep and he looked upset and said " I think I made a mistake" so i'm pretty sure that had to do with letting des go but they didn't show it.

Adding on to you, TML, I can't understand Harrison this season: First, he says last week that Cat's reaction to Les' departure was "weird" or "odd" (I can't remember the quote), and now, this week, he's talking about Sean letting go of the "love of his life". That's a strong statement. He also wondered in an interview if Sean would ever admit that he regrets that decision to let go of Dez. Maybe the show is working against them for some reason.

I do find the live ATFR interesting in light of last season's. Add to that this extra special...Weird!

Chris Harrison is paid to promote the drama in the show- and he follows the edit even though he knows the real life.

I put, probably on another thread that the statement "I think I made a mistake" could be taken from him saying, "I hope I don't wake up in the morning and think I made a mistake".... the editors do that kind of thing. (And Sean admits in his blog that Dez' appeal did have some effect on him, but he knew for her to stay meant another would have to go (someone who he did not want to go).

I get how the show works. I'm just expressing my thoughts.

The "I think I made a mistake" could have been edited. It could have not been. At this point, the only thing that will prove the strength of Sean and Cat's relationship is the next few weeks and then beyond.

northernviewer wrote:

LoveDovez wrote:

northernviewer wrote:I wonder how Catharine felt watching last night, knowing that Sean pretty much did a coin toss to see if her or Desiree were going home? Haven't read the board in a few days... but wondering if everybody is still saying that they could still "see" the love between them on their last few dates????.... cuz after Sean almost eliminating her..... I'm thinking it just didn't exist at the time. Wonder what happened in the FS that got him to changes his mind??

also, how does a guy propose to a girl after liking 2 other girls better than her up until a week or so before he gets down on one knee??? kinda ridiculous to me

That was all for drama sake. Sean knew Cat wasn't going anywhere , same as the people that have watched closely this season knew it was all MF and none of Sean other than him having to go along with it. Kinda convenient to already have those two girls pictures together, wouldn't you say??????

So you're saying Sean's a liar and willing to hurt his F1 to make MF happy?

No, I'm saying that some people act like they've never watched this show and realizes he has to LIE to 2 ( or more) different girls to get to his F1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Happens EVERY season... Thought people would realize this by NOW.... :giggle:

ThankMeLater wrote:I don't think it was for drama. I think this is exactly how it all played out. I think family is really important to Sean and their opinions really matter to him.

If that's true most of us on here realizes Sean would have sent AshLee home. Sean is looking for a throw caution to the wind, nerdy, goofy girl to spend his life with.... What part of that resembles AshLee?? And I really like AshLee, but I realize they have a show to produce that means they have to have so many girls at any given point and so many have to go home or else why didn't Sean keep Des last night, too and make it 4 going into the FD. He's stretched the rules so far this season who's to say he couldn't have done that if he was so unsure he didn't want Des to go? Just keeping it real....



And I respect your opinion. ; )

veg_out wrote:

ThankMeLater wrote:Also to add on i remember in the previews he was wearing the same tie as last night ep and he looked upset and said " I think I made a mistake" so i'm pretty sure that had to do with letting des go but they didn't show it.

Adding on to you, TML, I can't understand Harrison this season: First, he says last week that Cat's reaction to Les' departure was "weird" or "odd" (I can't remember the quote), and now, this week, he's talking about Sean letting go of the "love of his life". That's a strong statement. He also wondered in an interview if Sean would ever admit that he regrets that decision to let go of Dez. Maybe the show is working against them for some reason.

I do find the live ATFR interesting in light of last season's. Add to that this extra special...Weird!

Not to say that they won't make it as a couple, but I felt like Catherine's HTD kind of gave viewers "food for thought" doubts if they don't wind up marrying and was kind of putting the blame on her somewhat. From what I read on FB and few other sites today, that's what happened.

Lindsay has made up some ground with fans but amazingly to me, most seem to think AshLee will be who he picks. This will be like the 4th week in a row that many fans will be shocked. It's a bizarre way to edit a romance adventure to me.

It certainly feels like the odds are against Sean and Catherine. The edit. Her family? Maybe his family? Chris Harrison. TPTB. It's funny I feel like Catherine's parts in the show is always met with silence/quiet on twitter as far as the official peeps are concerned.

Am I even making sense?

Sean was waffling. He went miles ahead with Catherine during the early part of the date but then totally questions himself with the comments from the sister. He doesn't seem like someone that wants to question himself - wants things clearer, faster - that's why he struggled in Montana and then again "last night" - there wasn't a clear answer. Catherine must do a great job answering his questions so he can feel back in control of his goal. Des with Lindsay's family might have been a sure bet. But my main thought overall is why does anyone want to go on this show unless it's to get media attention? Sure is hard on people.