Re: Episode 8 (HTD's) - 2/18 - Bachelor 17 - Discussion - Spoilers

by Jeepers Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:38 pm

LoveDovez wrote:
CarrieA wrote:
Jeepers wrote:We have a thread .. In BLUE That has some links

Jeepers I don't know if you posted last season or not as I stayed away from the crazies on here during Em's little go at it but I really have appreciated your posts this season you are hilarious as always and never disappoint me with your posts.

Happy watching tonight everyone, hope everyone gets what they want out of the episode tonight!!

Jeepers and I were two of the crazies from last season. Aren't we Jeepers?; )

Who??? Lil ole me??? :bigsmile: :koolaid

I went mute for a while giggling

by officeRules Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:38 pm

Barbarossa wrote:
umngirl wrote:Seems some great discussion happened while I was at the gym, lots of great thoughts everyone. To add more to why several of my friends think Sean is F1, they saw Sean acts different around her than the others. The lone male of the group said Sean worrying about Catherine friend-zoning him was a big sign that there was more there than we were shown. They also noted how Sean comforted her compared to others who have told him sad stories or cried. The difference on the last group date between him being there for her compared to how he was with Des was something they all noticed, the male especially. I've been thinking maybe age and experience with this show affects people's opinions. My friends range in age from 21 to 26, and besides the male who gets conned into watching by his girlfriend they have all watched this show for years.

That could be true. The women in my group are between 35 and 55 so that could definitely ge a factor

For me, in the interests of full disclosure, I am nutty about Eurasian women, so Catherine would have stood out to me spoiled or not. But without that, I would have been scratching my head at this point.

But like you said, younger people may see it differently. I'm 49 and married, so perhaps the clues are generational. Of course this does not account for only one date and never giving her a group rose. Perhaps he was daffy for her and they commanded the rose to others, but my understanding has always been that the lead is free to do as he wants with roses. If I were Sean, and I was crazy about her, I would have seen she got a few.

The group rose is the only time a contestant should feel in direct competition with her peers. How many of us could sit there while others kept getting roses and not question if the guy doesn't like them better than us?

I don't know about anyone else here, but I have felt all this season that he has been handing out the roses using a very unique criteria. He is almost using them to reward the one who is most forward or 'open', and often giving them out as a reaction or to give reassurance. I haven't seen him handing them out to the one he is feeling the most connection with... This is just my observation of the season so far, and of what little I can guess of his motivations.

by jcrbil Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:47 pm

officeRules wrote:
Barbarossa wrote:
umngirl wrote:Seems some great discussion happened while I was at the gym, lots of great thoughts everyone. To add more to why several of my friends think Sean is F1, they saw Sean acts different around her than the others. The lone male of the group said Sean worrying about Catherine friend-zoning him was a big sign that there was more there than we were shown. They also noted how Sean comforted her compared to others who have told him sad stories or cried. The difference on the last group date between him being there for her compared to how he was with Des was something they all noticed, the male especially. I've been thinking maybe age and experience with this show affects people's opinions. My friends range in age from 21 to 26, and besides the male who gets conned into watching by his girlfriend they have all watched this show for years.

That could be true. The women in my group are between 35 and 55 so that could definitely ge a factor

For me, in the interests of full disclosure, I am nutty about Eurasian women, so Catherine would have stood out to me spoiled or not. But without that, I would have been scratching my head at this point.

But like you said, younger people may see it differently. I'm 49 and married, so perhaps the clues are generational. Of course this does not account for only one date and never giving her a group rose. Perhaps he was daffy for her and they commanded the rose to others, but my understanding has always been that the lead is free to do as he wants with roses. If I were Sean, and I was crazy about her, I would have seen she got a few.

The group rose is the only time a contestant should feel in direct competition with her peers. How many of us could sit there while others kept getting roses and not question if the guy doesn't like them better than us?

I don't know about anyone else here, but I have felt all this season that he has been handing out the roses using a very unique criteria. He is almost using them to reward the one who is most forward or 'open', and often giving them out as a reaction or to give reassurance. I haven't seen him handing them out to the one he is feeling the most connection with... This is just my observation of the season so far, and of what little I can guess of his motivations.

We will never be privy to all Sean's interactions with each of the women, but I noticed last week that he was reassuring some of the girls during the dates that they would get HTDs.... we didn't see it with Catherine, but I think there was more to their one on one time than we saw (as it is with all dates). I do think it's a shame we've been on the Tierrable train so long.... I am so looking forward to tonight.

by NCGalBecca Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:49 pm

^^^You make a great point about the Date Rose recipients but when you couple that with the wonky editing, hiding the real relationship type moments and focusing too much on the over the top Tierra stuff, it does Sean a huge disservice if you ask me. They took a well intentioned guy and made him look flaky by never allowing him to explain his reasoning for his actions or showing the real reason that he made a choice - in the moment - not in blogs and interviews post-show that may or may not be read by a viewer.

by jcrbil Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:54 pm

I agree it does Sean a disservice to the majority of the viewers. I hope the STA and WTA and ATFR allow much of the story behind the story to come out.

by deeliciouz Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:58 pm

Here we go!!! High clap

by Barbarossa Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:00 pm

jcrbil wrote:I agree it does Sean a disservice to the majority of the viewers. I hope the STA and WTA and ATFR allow much of the story behind the story to come out.

Agreed. Ok, it's time.