Episode 7 - 2/11 - Bachelor 17 - Discussion - Spoilers

jurystillout wrote:Not sure where to post this. But since the US President speech is on from 9-10pm. Does that mean they will not show The Bachelor: Sean tells on and we will have to catch it online instead???

Your are off by a week Jury. Sean Tells All is next Tuesday I am pretty sure.

luvstx wrote:

jurystillout wrote:Not sure where to post this. But since the US President speech is on from 9-10pm. Does that mean they will not show The Bachelor: Sean tells on and we will have to catch it online instead???

Your are off by a week Jury. Sean Tells All is next Tuesday I am pretty sure.

Sean is definitely next week.

luvstx wrote:

jurystillout wrote:Not sure where to post this. But since the US President speech is on from 9-10pm. Does that mean they will not show The Bachelor: Sean tells on and we will have to catch it online instead???

Your are off by a week Jury. Sean Tells All is next Tuesday I am pretty sure.

Thank you!!! Man I am tired... still trying to cath up from last nights episode...

The reason Tierra was still there on the show was for drama. In my opinion he wasn't ever into Tierra, she didn't get a 1-1 until it was time for her to go home and he had ran out of people who hadn't had one. For the van being ready remember we are in edited time not real time, although I think she was set to go before hometown, Sean wasn't going home with Miss Drama

avoice wrote:

northernviewer wrote:I think Tierra leaving like that was so staged, much the same as Ali's was. I don't think Tierra was ever as into Sean as he was her. I think the conflict with the girls made her want out and so they set up the whole thing (probably convincing Tierra that it was setup so she could be next Bach'ette - sucker!)... from tptb instigating a fight between Tierra and Ashlee, coincidently?? ya right!!, just before Sean comes to get her to meet with Shay?? I'm not that stupid or naive ... sheesh....

I don't agree with this. If this was a set up then the people behind the scenes would have been ready. But we saw them scrambling for cover. The whole thing played out quite spontaneously.

Perhaps his temporary break was to prep the producers that he was about to do Send Tierra home and to get a car ready. The other B'ettes had no idea (I wonder if that's true) during the cocktail date that Sean had let Tierra go. I think they believe Sean took her to meet someone and he was going to walk in with Tierra with a rose in her hand, so I assume no one came around to collect Tierra's things until much later. I don't think you could set this up unless all of them are acting.

Sorry, but I'm not ever going to buy that nothing transpires between Tierra and Ashlee the day after Tierra's 1/1, when it was just them (Tierra and Ash) and Lesley at the house while Sean was on 3/1, and then they were in the house all day during Sean and Les's date... and then lo and behold... while Sean is talking to his sister about Tierra and the girls... she's conveniently sitting with Ashlee, having that confrontation!! He walks in when she's crying... they talk and she leaves??? it's laughable, IMO I don't think Ash or the rest of the girls were aware... but Sean, Tierra and Shay knew exactly what was going down.

[/quote] LoveDovez

I was so excited when the season first started ( when we knew it was Sean ) and as many can attest for, I was one of Sean's biggest fans.

However, in the last couple of weeks I would say I've gone from a super fan to barely a fan at all. I don't like how Sean leads these women on. He DOES NOT have to say the same thing to each woman he talks to. He DOES NOT have to tell each woman he can see them as his wife and/or that he's crazy about them. He CAN'T feel this way about every woman on the show OR if he does he isn't REALLY serious about finding his wife out of this group of women.

Having said that and after watching the way he was with Tierra ( btw I think he knew all along she was causing the drama.) ( She even told as much the night she interrupted his hot tub with Lindsay) I'm now to the point of putting Sean with the select group on Bach's and Ette's that have gone on the show only to get more face time for their careers...... Sure Sean looked and acted sincere the first few episodes, but how many of you can say that the Sean we saw last night was the same Sean we saw in the first few episodes? I wouldn't think there would be many of you.

I'm now to the point that I hope he doesn't pick Catherine because if they haven't been hiding their connection up to now with the editing, how on earth is the editing gonna make me believe Sean went from saying Catherine's NOT standing out in week 7 only to turn around and in less than 2/3 weeks make me think they found a love that's everlasting? I think this season has Jumped the Shark or whatever that saying is. I think it's bombed...

There are so many other things I could say,but I don't want to make it personal about any of the girls, but one thing I will say is I think Sean would have been better off with Wolfie and not wasted any of these girls time or mine... I'm sorry this probably should have been in the editing thread and if so San or Love_ me have my permission to move it there. I am sorry I feel this way, but it's not my fault. It's MF's,. Sean's and the editing department of this whacked out show!!! [/quote]





Okay, I don't know why the screen keeps jumping when I try to reply to this, but I will try to convey my thoughts on last night's show. So, here I go. I agree on many of the things that you said, but I truly don't think that Sean went on the show for publicity. I think he figured "why not" see if it was possible to find his wife on the show. But, I have come to the conclusion that this might not have been the ideal environment for him.

Sean has admitted that he had never fallen in love with anyone prior to doing the Bachelorette, so it is starting to make sense to me why he is falling for so many women at the same time. If you have never experienced what true love is in real life, then how are you going to be able to distinguish it from a showmance or what feels like real love at the time? In other words, Sean's lack of "love" experience and never having fallen in love with anyone before Emily is making him look wishy washy. But I am a realist, so I don't think that what Sean felt for Emily was real love. It at least felt like it was love for Sean at the time so he says, but so many people who go on TB say afterwards that they were just caught up in the Bachelor Bubble and only realized once they returned to reality that it wasn't what it seemed.

I agree that making a decision to get engaged with just 2 or 3 more weeks left until the finale is not enough time for the slow mover that Sean has presented himself to be. I think that it would be more realistic if he just wanted to date Catherine out in the real world and saved the real engagement proposal for if and when they both see a future together. Otherwise, this just seems too rushed to me. I do think that Sean is being presented as someone who is indecisive, whether that is just the edit he is being given or not. Something is definitely off with his edit, and I am not seeing a love story being presented here....perhaps just the beginning of one.

ThankMeLater wrote:

2observe wrote:

ThankMeLater wrote:I knew it :)

What gave it away? I thought that Sean would give Catherine the rose since she's never had a GDR.

in the ep description i remebered where it said two girls talk about their families so she wasnt one of those so I figured it was Lindsay :)

Oh, ok thanks.

Barbarossa wrote:I am hopeful for them, but yes, one 1-on-1 date and zero group date roses.

In the past I assumed (and was right) that the producers picked many group roses to shape story and throw out smokescreens.
This season, at this point, I am fairly convinced that Sean wasn't certain who the f1 was as of St. Croix. I might be very wrong, but he acts like he truly doesn't know.
I'm not sure if that is good or bad for their long term viability. But I don't blame others for being worried.

We need to see some love story and a lot less focus on the producers trying to hide everything.

One thing to throw out there: when Sean hands someone else a group date rose, we are never allowed to see Catherine's reaction. Is she disappointed? Confident because she knew how he felt and knew it was just more manipulation? No idea. It's telling she's never shown then. It's always someone else(usually Des). Smokescreen on top of an enigma. But what it means! No idea.

Barbarossa, ITA, and Sean pretty much confirmed when he told his sister that no one stood out to him.

I think Sean has "white knight syndrome".... he needs to rescue people and to feel needed and manly. :Bubba:

I don't think any of the leads will say that they know who their f1 is before the HTDs or even the FDs because they're going to be trashed if they do. I doubt most of them are 100% sure at this point even if they say they are later on. I think that's more about making their f1 feel better.

Shay was on Kidd Kraddick this morning and said "White Knight" was not something she'd seen in Sean before (I don't know how to bring the link here- it is shown of RS's blog today- page 5. I can't find it on the KK in the am website- maybe Shay's put a link up on her twitter). Anyway- she sheds some light and fills in a few blanks- mostly up to the current time. She does not reveal the ending AT ALL and says that she's happy because Sean is happy. (She did not reveal a personal pick of the 4- which would have been really stupid to do. She and Sean are pretty good at not answering questions which are designed to get them to spill).