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Post by just logic Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:18 pm

mare2 wrote:To change Arie's mind you'd have to change Fleiss's mind. They didn't want him for whatever reason. Does anyone actually believe Arie passed up the chance to be the the Bach? 0 chance. :yes: He's smarter than that.

I believe everyone goes on this show for a reason (other than to find love - smart of them). I think Arie's reason may have been to get name recognition for himself rather than just for his father's name. That is what helps a racer gets sponsers - he now has a sponser so..... mission accomplished. Now, if his reason was something beyond the racing world then it's possible he may still be interested.


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Post by tigertiz Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:26 pm

Does anyone actually believe Arie passed up the chance to be the the Bach?
I do.
He's got the dream of a lifetime in front of him -to pursue his passion and get back in the race car. This isnt just some nice promotion at work. He's battled for years for this opportunity. Congrats Arie!
#GoArieGo
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Post by mare2 Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:49 pm

tigertiz wrote:
Does anyone actually believe Arie passed up the chance to be the the Bach?
I do.
He's got the dream of a lifetime in front of him -to pursue his passion and get back in the race car. This isnt just some nice promotion at work. He's battled for years for this opportunity. Congrats Arie!
#GoArieGo

I get that, but it would've only gotten better with more exposure as the lead. I just can't see his short stint with Em doing THAT much for his career.

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Post by Ladybug82 Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:03 pm

mare2 wrote:
tigertiz wrote:
Does anyone actually believe Arie passed up the chance to be the the Bach?
I do.
He's got the dream of a lifetime in front of him -to pursue his passion and get back in the race car. This isnt just some nice promotion at work. He's battled for years for this opportunity. Congrats Arie!
#GoArieGo

I get that, but it would've only gotten better with more exposure as the lead. I just can't see his short stint with Em doing THAT much for his career.

See that's where I tend to disagree or hesitate to fully believe that statement. We don't know what kind of edit he would receive if he took the lead. Too much drama or bad edit could have made the people interested in him leery of having him represent them and their name. While it could certainly boost his image more like you mentioned, i also see him having to weigh the decision. Because turning them down now or putting it on hold could back fire on him if he didn't receive a stellar edit. Personally, I would hate to know I had turned down my dream job to do the show and then that offer no longer be there after the show. Sometimes some opportunities you just have to pass up for what you really want when it's in front of you, even if that opportunity could further help you advance your life, both personally and professionally. But that's jmo.

ETA: Arie made the best decision for himself, that's what matters. Would I have enjoyed a season of him front and center, of course. But knowing he is doing what he wants, loves and makes him happy is better than seeing him dragged thought the media circus and any drama Fleiss could through his way. He'll find his special someone when the time is right and on his terms without any manipulation from production influencing him. :Smiley:


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Post by alwaystulips Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:11 pm

I know it was a joke, but I have to admit there's a little part of me that really wants John Mayer to be the Bachelor. It would so totally mess with the TPTB. To quote John on TB: "Damn show works." :)

John just had a second throat surgery, though, and has to be silent for six months. Hope he recovers fully. It makes me laugh to know he'll be watching Bachelor 17 right along with us.
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Post by alwaystulips Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:19 pm

And, if we're going by grooming spoilers, he did get a haircut recently. :Smiley:
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Post by gurlbrit Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:21 pm

I actually think more of Arie for concentrating on his racing career than having a good round on this show. Ladybug is right no-one knows what his edit would have been like, and if Fleiss had thrown him under the bus, as he has for some of his prior leads, it may have ended up costing him more.

I may even start watching Indy racing. What a concept, the Bachelorette got me started on watching something else. LOL


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Post by dw_a_mom Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:23 pm

Ladybug82 wrote:

ETA: Arie made the best decision for himself, that's what matters. Would I have enjoyed a season of him front and center, of course. But knowing he is doing what he wants, loves and makes him happy is better than seeing him dragged thought the media cuirass and any drama Fleiss could through his way. He'll find his special someone when the time is right and on his terms without any manipulation from production influencing him. :Smiley:

I agree. Whether or not additional exposure being TB would help or hurt him is a crap shoot (based solely on past history, nothing personal about Arie, we don't really know him after all). If he got opportunities from the one exposure that make him happy, and he is choosing to take them and run with them, then I'll trust that he made the best decision for himself.



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Post by shoepie Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:24 pm

gurlbrit wrote:I actually think more of Arie for concentrating on his racing career than having a good round on this show. Ladybug is right no-one knows what his edit would have been like, and if Fleiss had thrown him under the bus, as he has for some of his prior leads, it may have ended up costing him more.

I may even start watching Indy racing. What a concept, the Bachelorette got me started on watching something else. LOL

Hahahaha! I had the same thought when I read the post a few back that said he got a sponser and now can get back to racing. I had no idea why he chose to be commentator!
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Post by mare2 Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:40 pm

gurlbrit wrote:I actually think more of Arie for concentrating on his racing career than having a good round on this show. Ladybug is right no-one knows what his edit would have been like, and if Fleiss had thrown him under the bus, as he has for some of his prior leads, it may have ended up costing him more.

I may even start watching Indy racing. What a concept, the Bachelorette got me started on watching something else. LOL

I just hope he isn't being naive in thinking his time on B'ette is gonna do wonders for his career. This is why I believe it when RS says he wanted the job. Of course he did, that kind of exposure would have been far more advantageous. I don't think it's a negative thing that he would want to be TB.

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Post by Ladybug82 Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:00 pm

I do think Arie may have wanted the job at some point, like you said the exposure could have been advantageous. But I think when the offer for a sponsor came in, he had to evaluate which was more important accepting the offer and getting back to what he loves or risking more exposure for a potentially larger sponsor, putting the current offer on hold, potentially being thrown under the Fleiss mobile and trashed in the media, etc., which could jeopardize all that. Wanting to be the Bach is not a bad thing, but I think he realized the sponsorship offer was more important than following through the Bach gig, no matter how much he may have wanted it. Obviously his time of bach'ette did enough getting him back out in the public to get a sponsor interested in him. Now it's up to him to go out and perform well enough and win to keep it. He'd have had to do that whenever he got back into racing, be it now or after he had been the Bach. But again, jmo.
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Post by Thomigirl Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:21 pm

Pattycake92 wrote:From Wetpaint
As the rumor mill churns! Things are looking better and better for Team Sean — according to this report, at least. 

On August 31, Arie Luyendyk, Jr. announced he had chosen racing over romance, essentially taking his name out of any prospective running to be the Season 17 Bachelor. That led us to believe the strongest remaining candidates were Sean Lowe, also of The Bachelorette Season 8, and Roberto Martinez, The Bachelorette 6 "winner" whose name has been in the mix for months.

Well not so fast, says Ryan Seacrest and his radio show sources. Weirdly enough, Ryan's new report, posted September 4, takes Hottie Dimples out of the running (sob!) but keeps Arie on the list, along with Sean and a third unnamed option, which scares us more than anything. (No alarms and no surprises, please!)

Here’s Ryan’s Bachelor update:

"First we know it will definitely not be Roberto from Ali Fedotowsky's season of The Bachelorette, as it's been rumored before. I can reveal that they've narrowed it down to three options. There are three finalists. The man in charge of dishing out the highly coveted roses will either be Arie or Sean, who finished second and third respectively on the last Bachelorette, or they may go back to how they used to choose, it could be an unknown third guy. Either way the president of ABC himself will be involved in the decision."

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