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Post by Guest Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:57 pm

Shoesies wrote:The dude hanging back to see if she is really interested in him is not so much game play as self preservation.

No need to hate on all the players. Jef, Arie and Sean are all stellar people...so's Em from all appearances. Let's enjoy the ride.

Oh and yeah, kumbayah! Peace. I mean don't dude, don't.

I second your opinion. We need an emoticon for I second your opinion..LoL

The bachelorette is our oyster and Jef is a pearl in it giggling


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Post by CrystalYuriKim Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:58 pm

jessica311 wrote:http://www.newnownext.com/the-bachelorettes-jef-holms-top-5-looks/06/2012/

Did anyone notice on this link "The 5 looks of Jef", the last pic has a caption that says he serenaded her with his guitar in Bermuda--?? For real? Where did I miss that?

Joke giggling or at least I think it is. :greenman:


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Post by games5234 Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:01 pm

Cecilia wrote:
games5234 wrote:
tausi wrote:

Waaay to go Jef!!!! I am proud of him. I am starting to enjoy seeing people so worked up about Jef. He sure is an interesting guy. Everything about him bring such strong reaction from people. I am glad he is happy!!

He's like the "Emily" of this season = very polarizing among folks :yes:

For the life of me, I have no idea how Jef is "polarizing." :greenman:

I'm not sure why he is either. Same goes for Emily. People either just love him, or love to find something about him to nitpick with... no no
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Post by Jeepers Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:02 pm

There was a pic of Jef playing a guitar .. Can't recall if Em was in it .. She could have been

Don't ask me to find it tho .. Thousands of posts ago


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Post by Archer23 Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:02 pm

NCGalBecca wrote:
luluvega wrote:
NCGalBecca wrote:It's interesting to me that he openly admitted to playing a game with her at first. Obviously, it was a good strategic plan seeing as how it worked out. First by attracting some attention i.e. getting an usual haircut, then riding in on a skate board to make her take notice of him in a sea of 25 faces then playing hard to get and appearing to be aloof. She didn't have to take the bait and any of those things could have sent him home. His risk paid off.

I think it rubs people the wrong way because of the game play aspect of it has a contrived feeling to it. Like it's about winning a competition instead of finding love. Especially, when it appears that there are others there who just try to be themselves and hope that's enough for some kind of connection.

Let me stop being silly for a second and say that NCGal, I really love your thoughtful, measured responses.

Thank you. Most of the time, I am most fascinated by the inner workings of the show and the biz angle of it. Their moves intrigue me. This time I am quite bummed for sweet Sean as I think he's a keeper.
Aw, don't be. Given the track record of all the recent F2s, he'll be just fine. Actually, he'll probably married within 2 years -- or living it up "Big Love" style with all the inhabitants of his thread. giggling
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Post by Guest Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:04 pm

proudmommy50810 wrote:
pinkrose912 wrote:I'm not following what was dishonest? that he had a strategy of playing hard to get? Couldn't it be said Arie had a strategy of laying it on thick?

I'm not trying to be fiesty just legit don't see how him saying he had a strategy is not trustworthy?

Some people thought that in last week's episode, Jef told Emily that it WASN'T a strategy...therefore he lied and is not trustworthy. But if you listen to their conversation, he never says that.

In Monday's episode, he did admit to want to keep Emily guessing. But he added, "Yeah but I don't want you to be guessing too much

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Post by NCGalBecca Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:07 pm

Archer23 wrote:
NCGalBecca wrote:
luluvega wrote:
NCGalBecca wrote:It's interesting to me that he openly admitted to playing a game with her at first. Obviously, it was a good strategic plan seeing as how it worked out. First by attracting some attention i.e. getting an usual haircut, then riding in on a skate board to make her take notice of him in a sea of 25 faces then playing hard to get and appearing to be aloof. She didn't have to take the bait and any of those things could have sent him home. His risk paid off.

I think it rubs people the wrong way because of the game play aspect of it has a contrived feeling to it. Like it's about winning a competition instead of finding love. Especially, when it appears that there are others there who just try to be themselves and hope that's enough for some kind of connection.

Let me stop being silly for a second and say that NCGal, I really love your thoughtful, measured responses.

Thank you. Most of the time, I am most fascinated by the inner workings of the show and the biz angle of it. Their moves intrigue me. This time I am quite bummed for sweet Sean as I think he's a keeper.
Aw, don't be. Given the track record of all the recent F2s, he'll be just fine. Actually, he'll probably married within 2 years -- or living it up "Big Love" style with all the inhabitants of his thread. giggling

Lol..this is true. Perhaps he discovered the key to happiness..being the F2 on TB. I imagine lots of gals will be saying Come Over when the show is over.


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Post by Guest Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:08 pm

yumyum1 wrote:Jef sounds happy and in love. Emily is one lucky girl. Happy that he for one is above all of the petty negativity. :yes:

I second that!!! Waaaaaaaaaaay to go Jefrey!!! Hugesmile

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Post by Guest Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:10 pm

canyonvue wrote:I love how one little thing is said and then it turns into a whirlwind of accusations of ever-increasing velocity.

My gosh. Jef just had an idea how he wanted to go into this experience, like everybody else. He said he wanted to just be friends first, and he was. And then his offishness paid off.

Travis had a strategy, as well. Maybe Arie's strategy was to kiss her as much as possible. Every season they all come in with a strategy of some sort.

And then he told her. It didn't seem to bother her after he told her. It still doesn't seem to bother her.

Jef is a very nice guy, a good guy, not a villain.

But, I guess this is to be expected because even more than ever you can't deny that he probably won. That interview was pretty convincing.

Well said Canyonvue! High clap

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Post by Archer23 Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:11 pm

NCGalBecca wrote:
Archer23 wrote:
NCGalBecca wrote:Thank you. Most of the time, I am most fascinated by the inner workings of the show and the biz angle of it. Their moves intrigue me. This time I am quite bummed for sweet Sean as I think he's a keeper.
Aw, don't be. Given the track record of all the recent F2s, he'll be just fine. Actually, he'll probably married within 2 years -- or living it up "Big Love" style with all the inhabitants of his thread. giggling

Lol..this is true. Perhaps he discovered the key to happiness..being the F2 on TB. I imagine lots of gals will be saying Come Over when the show is over.
LOL. I don't even want to have kids, but I would fall hook, line, and sinker for his "baby makin' music." I'm just sayin'.
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Post by umngirl Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:12 pm

Archer23 wrote:
NCGalBecca wrote:
luluvega wrote:
NCGalBecca wrote:It's interesting to me that he openly admitted to playing a game with her at first. Obviously, it was a good strategic plan seeing as how it worked out. First by attracting some attention i.e. getting an usual haircut, then riding in on a skate board to make her take notice of him in a sea of 25 faces then playing hard to get and appearing to be aloof. She didn't have to take the bait and any of those things could have sent him home. His risk paid off.

I think it rubs people the wrong way because of the game play aspect of it has a contrived feeling to it. Like it's about winning a competition instead of finding love. Especially, when it appears that there are others there who just try to be themselves and hope that's enough for some kind of connection.

Let me stop being silly for a second and say that NCGal, I really love your thoughtful, measured responses.

Thank you. Most of the time, I am most fascinated by the inner workings of the show and the biz angle of it. Their moves intrigue me. This time I am quite bummed for sweet Sean as I think he's a keeper.
Aw, don't be. Given the track record of all the recent F2s, he'll be just fine. Actually, he'll probably married within 2 years -- or living it up "Big Love" style with all the inhabitants of his thread. giggling

Agreed. He will probably be married long before Emily, Jef, Arie, and maybe most of the other guys from this season. I mean, all he needs to do is visit his thread and he will have multiple options.


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Post by philphan Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:13 pm

Did I miss the line in the transcript that said he was playing a game? Oh yeah....the transcript hasn't been released yet.

Why so quick to judge?


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