The Golden Bachelor - Gerry Turner - Episodes - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

sdmom wrote:@RizBiz I agree with you that Leslie was his F1 going into FSD, in addition to the clues you listed, I also think Leslie got roses before Theresa the last few episodes mean something, well, at least to me.


For those who were here during Rachel Lindsay’s season, do you remember one of our super sleuthers found hotel pictures from Trip Advisor that matched where Peter Kraus stayed, and concluded she went to his room to eliminate him? I wish they were still here! We just need to have proof whose room Gerry was knocking on to say goodbye….

I don't remember that particular sleuthing...and, unfortunately, all of the furniture and bedding and lighting at the Springs Resort looks the same! Hard to sleuth. I couldn't even find the red throw pillows behind Gerry when I went looking for them this morning!

@luvstx  Regarding those red pillows.
We have to remember that production has their trunks of accessories that they drag along.
Lanterns, plants, vases, screens, pillows, etc. Those red pillows may have come from their accessories bag of tricks.
The Red and White bedspread in Theresa's FS is probably one of those props as well. Not shown on any of the Hotel's pics.

So far, based upon furniture, Leslie has the Villa Palacio for FS overnight and Theresa has the Guayaba Villa. IMO.

Wonderful sleuthing above but ... I am still wondering about the screencap below. Where is Leslie going ?   Could she be going to see Gerry - after he has broken up with her ?  Does Gerry reconsider ?  Gerry made a mistake and has been miserable ever since he broke up with Leslie.  Why would he be so miserable if he was in love with Theresa ?  This break up is the same as when his wife died - pretty strong words for your F2.  Yes, he is an emotional caring person - who does not like to hurt someone he loves but  is this a Mesnick moment ?  Did he make a mistake?   Does he take Leslie back - and all is good and he proposes to her at the FRC ?  Or maybe he rejects her again --
I don't feel we have seen enough of Gerry's feelings towards Theresa to "buy" that they end of together.  History shows us first date never goes to F1.  Leap of faith date always goes to F1.  Biggest fantasy date suite always goes to F1.
I accept that we may see more of Theresa in the next episodes.  But I haven't seen that spark.  No hot tubs for Theresa.  No slamming her up against a wall and kissing her for Theresa !  Please help !  Don't think it will last with Leslie ....  just imo.

CHO wrote:Wonderful sleuthing above but ... I am still wondering about the screencap below. Where is Leslie going ?   Could she be going to see Gerry - after he has broken up with her ?  Does Gerry reconsider ?  Gerry made a mistake and has been miserable ever since he broke up with Leslie.  Why would he be so miserable if he was in love with Theresa ?  This break up is the same as when his wife died - pretty strong words for your F2.  Yes, he is an emotional caring person - who does not like to hurt someone he loves but  is this a Mesnick moment ?  Did he make a mistake?   Does he take Leslie back - and all is good and he proposes to her at the FRC ?  Or maybe he rejects her again --
I don't feel we have seen enough of Gerry's feelings towards Theresa to "buy" that they end of together.  History shows us first date never goes to F1.  Leap of faith date always goes to F1.  Biggest fantasy date suite always goes to F1.
I accept that we may see more of Theresa in the next episodes.  But I haven't seen that spark.  No hot tubs for Theresa.  No slamming her up against a wall and kissing her for Theresa !  Please help !  Don't think it will last with Leslie ....  just imo.

Over the history of this franchise, I remember a few gut wrenching breakups. I have not watched the last few seasons, but I remember Rachel L and Peter K, Becca K and Blake H, and Des and Brooks (different scenario, I know). My point is , some leads developed very strong feelings with F2/F3, they all seemed devastated when they had to break up with someone, but that doesn’t mean they were not happy picking F1. Besides, the show is highly edited. Of course the producers will highlight Gerry’s emotions, because they want people to talk about it, to create drama, to make money.

The order of FSD, the type of date, the size of the room: all these point Leslie was his F1 going to FSD. But is she the final one? We don’t know for sure. That’s why we need to continue to sleuth!

All IMO.

sdmom wrote:

Over the history of this franchise, I remember a few gut wrenching breakups. I have not watched the last few seasons, but I remember Rachel L and Peter K, Becca K and Blake H, and Des and Brooks (different scenario, I know). My point is , some leads developed very strong feelings with F2/F3, they all seemed devastated when they had to break up with someone, but that doesn’t mean they were not happy picking F1. Besides, the show is highly edited. Of course the producers will highlight Gerry’s emotions, because they want people to talk about it, to create drama, to make money.

The order of FSD, the type of date, the size of the room: all these point Leslie was his F1 going to FSD. But is she the final one? We don’t know for sure. That’s why we need to continue to sleuth!

All IMO.

Totally agree !!

@CHO I am going to try to post a photo here to try to explain.
This is one of the suites in the hotel. Many of them have a similar setting with their verandah/balcony, although this may not necessarily be the room Leslie had. This one appears to be on the smaller side.
The reflection in the windows is similar to the one you posted.

If you can imagine that the camera crew is inside, filming her through the window. (They would be aware of something about to happen so are there to film it.
Leslie is outside those windows on the balcony, leaning over the railing.
She moves towards the right where the door is, to come back into the room.
An other film crew is in the hallways filming Gerry.
The Door where Gerry is knocking on is behind this pic, in the hallway, at the rear of the building. (the person taking this pic would be in that area)
All just imo.

Ah - RizBiz ! So the crosshatch lights are latterns or light fixtures rather than windows of a building ! Good catch !

Not to be difficult - just trying to cross all the T's

Leslie is wearing a light blue outfit on the fantasy date - the top is strapless on one shoulder and on the other side the light blue strap crosses over and shows on the other shoulder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4TkYFfTgPA

So the screencap above shows a thin black strap on Leslie's shoulder. A bathing suit strap ?

@CHO THIS room is not the Fantasy Suite.
Leslie's Fantasy Suite ( light blue outfit) was held in the Villa Palacio.

THIS room where the pic you posted with the thin black strap top, is probably in her own suite; where she stayed for the duration. Those suites were probably in one of the larger buildings, possibly the Aracari building.
IMO that would have been at least a double suite,  since I think the handler(s) stays close by. ..

This pic you posted is IMO after the FSD, and after the Meet the Family, and may have been the LCD.
In any case, it is IMO the night that he breaks off with Leslie.

CHO wrote:Not to be difficult - just trying to cross all the T's

Leslie is wearing a light blue outfit on the fantasy date - the top is strapless on one shoulder and on the other side the light blue strap crosses over and shows on the other shoulder.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4TkYFfTgPA

So the screencap above shows a thin black strap on Leslie's shoulder.  A bathing suit strap ?

That strap looks to be the same color as the swimsuit she has on in the waterfall with Gerry.

jojo47 wrote:

CHO wrote:Not to be difficult - just trying to cross all the T's

Leslie is wearing a light blue outfit on the fantasy date - the top is strapless on one shoulder and on the other side the light blue strap crosses over and shows on the other shoulder.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4TkYFfTgPA

So the screencap above shows a thin black strap on Leslie's shoulder.  A bathing suit strap ?

That strap looks to be the same color as the swimsuit she has on in the waterfall with Gerry.

Could be the same outfit/bathing suit BUT it is probably not the same day.
After they went for their rappelling date, one would assume they went for dinner and then were given the key to the FS. Leslie's fantasy suite was the Villa Palacio.
The Lighting of the Villa Palacio is very different.

Her bathing suit on the FD, it looks like light pink straps. I can try to make another screen cap if people request.


When Leslie either answers or walks away the door.


Her night time outfit





I can’t really tell if that’s a strap or her hair? But I think it’s more likely the hair

Source https://youtu.be/NYY7Icf835k?si=Jdq7xAHdyULVPuwu