Bachelor 24 - Peter Weber - Mar 9th & 10th Finale - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Doggoneit wrote:I'll just put this comment here, since we don't have a thread yet.
I keep seeing promos for Listen to you Heart.  
With all of TPTB manipulations lately, would it not have been absolutely sinister ( in the best way) to have, HALEY STEVENS -Jed's ex and fellow song writer-on the show!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY4rkqAIdjg

suzq wrote:I am glad that he and Madi are working things out, but it isn't great that he wanted to keep HA as his backup plan.  JMO.

HavaDrPepper wrote:

suzq wrote:I am glad that he and Madi are working things out, but it isn't great that he wanted to keep HA as his backup plan.  JMO.

Playing devil's advocate here...

what if he had no choice in "keeping Hannah Ann as a backup plan".


All IMO of course.

chicagoowl wrote:

HavaDrPepper wrote:

suzq wrote:I am glad that he and Madi are working things out, but it isn't great that he wanted to keep HA as his backup plan.  JMO.

Playing devil's advocate here...

what if he had no choice in "keeping Hannah Ann as a backup plan".


All IMO of course.

I don't buy it. They always have a choice. Colton found a way to get around producer manipulation and go after the woman he wanted.

KBiegs88 wrote:from Reality Steve’s website this morning:

-As we know, Madison doesn’t show up to the final rose ceremony.

-Peter then calls off the final rose ceremony until he can talk to Madison. But she’s already left to go back to USA, so they have to all leave and go to USA for him to talk to her.

-Basically he’s saying, “To know I’m making the right decision and have a clear conscience, I need both of you to be here.” He’s not like “bye Hannah, I pick Madi.” He doesn’t even make a pick either way and says he won’t until he at least has a chance to talk to Madison and have them both be there both be there. He doesn’t want Hannah Ann to feel like he picked her bc Madison left and she was the only one left standing. He needs to figure this out, and he can’t do that without speaking to Madison.

-Once they were back in the states, Peter really had to win over, not only Madison, but her family as well. Madison’s parents were not overly supportive of this, and Madison did NOT take him back right away either. There was definitely some down time where nothing was happening between them.

-Peter had to finagle his way back in and prove he was being authentic after what went down in Australia. Lets just say there was a lot soul searching, some real tough conversations, and he really had to win over the family. Peter and Madison were able to talk about stuff but realized how hurt she was by what she did and it was very intense.

-In the end, Peter and Madison are together right now, but not engaged. We will see footage of how it all came to be after filming in Australia ended, because that’s when his “courtship” of Madison had to happen. From everything I was told, this happened in Alabama.

-A couple weeks back, when I had first heard mention of this and where they’re at now, I hinted in an answer somewhere, “I can see where their love story is this season.” And that was basically it. Not to downplay Arie and Lauren’s relationship after he broke it off with Becca, but we all saw the footage of when Arie went to see Lauren. It seemed like she immediately accepted him back in the first 10 minutes and forgotten what he’d done. I’m hearing it did not go down that way with Madison. It took a while and Peter really had to work hard to get her to trust him, and get her to believe he was sincere in all this. He ultimately did it, and that’s where they’re at now.

Doggoneit wrote:Additionally about Kelly:

Ashley I had Chris on her podcast.  She asked about Kelly, he said"she was not pivotal to the story line so we decided not to have her".   Later without Chris and talking to Tenley, even Ashley I said that she did not buy it.

I think there is another reason that may have more to do with her relationship with TPTB.  I really don't think she is with Peter.  I just don't think he or she is each others type.  Ashley also asked him why the cast was so young.  He said there were older women that were part of the cast but Peter did not keep them around.  So, life experience is not really his type. IMO

Back to Madison at F3 ceremony.  I just rewatched.  When Peter said her name, she looked shocked.  Could have been editing but her eyes flew open.  I do think it's TPTB enticed her to be there in some way.

MadiPrewfan wrote:I believe rs that Peter is with Madi. It makes the most sense based off of post season “feet”