Bachelor 24 - Peter Weber - Mar 9th & 10th Finale - Discussion - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Any way we can figure it out without RS information, because the caps sure aren't helping to me.

I don't think HS leaves, but whatever Peter said made her cry and he looked really emotionally drained.

atem wrote:Any way we can figure it out without RS information, because the caps sure aren't helping to me.  

I don't think HS leaves, but whatever Peter said made her cry and he looked really emotionally drained.

That's the big program, we can't sleuth through caps that don't exist, making it so very difficult!!

USAGold wrote:

atem wrote:Any way we can figure it out without RS information, because the caps sure aren't helping to me.  

I don't think HS leaves, but whatever Peter said made her cry and he looked really emotionally drained.

That's the big program, we can't sleuth through caps that don't exist, making it so very difficult!!

When was the filming with Madi with production?

I checked and it was Feb 12th.  Whatever it was for, she looked very happy.

chicagoowl wrote:Do you all think that scene where Hannah Ann is saying: "I've given and given and given and never get anything in return," takes place in the Agoura Hills home when Peter officially breaks it off with her?

I mentioned this in the screen caps thread. The clothing they are wearing is different than what they were wearing in Australia. The lighting in the screen shot looks similar to the lighting in the CA house JMO

jen689 wrote:

chicagoowl wrote:Do you all think that scene where Hannah Ann is saying: "I've given and given and given and never get anything in return," takes place in the Agoura Hills home when Peter officially breaks it off with her?

I mentioned this in the screen caps thread. The clothing they are wearing is different than what they were wearing in Australia. The lighting in the screen shot looks similar to the lighting in the CA house JMO

It looked the same to me.

MadiPrewfan wrote:I believe rs that Peter is with Madi. It makes the most sense based off of post season “feet”

Yes, I will be shocked if Peter/Madi are not happily together next week. The exact sequence of events that happened at the end of filming are still TBD, IMO. My hope is that upon returning to the US, Peter saw Hannah Ann and, realizing that she deserved better than to be his backup plan/emotional crutch, let her go before reaching out to Madi. If nothing else, I hope that if he doesn't end up marrying Madi, in future relationships Peter realizes the power of words & making sure that what you're telling someone isn't just infatuation/early stages of love talking. Not every woman is the love of your life/soulmate/mother of your future children. That actually has been my biggest issue with Peter, moreso than FS since I don't think he was set on Madi at that point.

For the most part, I don't buy that people really fall in love on the show since they spend so little time together & it's such a manufactured environment, but I have no doubt that Peter genuinely did.

I think Peter and Madi are together... there's just too much that doesn't add up if he did pick her...ie the Auburn filming with Madi, Madi being at Burbank recently, Madi/Peter going quiet at similar times, Madi's twitter likes as of late and other SM activity. I think maybe just some of the HOW details are off or maybe TPTB is sending out people to throw RS off. I said in the SM thread too that I think its sus that all these "new sources" are coming to RS JUST NOW when they've had months

kjcarter91 wrote:I also heard Peter say in one of the interviews (I can't remember which one I listened to so many) that had Madi's FS date been first and they had been able to have that conversation, he would have handled the other fantasy suite dates differently.  From that I took, at the point they were at Peter knew he had feelings but Madi hadn't vocalized them until the FS date.  Somewhere, I heard/read that was when he realized how deep Madi's feelings were for him.  I have no idea why the producers decided to throw Madi under the bus during the season, but they certainly did.  Forcing the conversation (she hasn't been the first virgin and they were allowed to discuss privately during FS date), putting the girls together (I say back fired, they wanted them to brag to cause her more heartache), to allowing her to leave AU all together.  I have watched since the first season, and I can honestly say, after what they did to Colton and Cassie and now Peter and Madi, I am done watching after this season (only finishing because I want to see them together...sucker for a love story).

I think this is very possible. IMO, he only realized at the FS dinner how in love he was with Madi and, more importantly, how deeply she felt for him. Peter's love language is words of affirmation & after the hanger conversation with Madi (after F4RC) he brought up the fact that the other two women had said ILY/falling in love while Madi hadn't (to her credit if she wasn't sure). I think at that point he wasn't sure that Madi would get to that stage & he also was worried about her father not giving his blessing to marry her. I think one of the key differences between Peter & Colton is that Peter felt stronger for his F2/F3 than Colton did for his F2/F3.

Emeralds wrote:

kjcarter91 wrote:I also heard Peter say in one of the interviews (I can't remember which one I listened to so many) that had Madi's FS date been first and they had been able to have that conversation, he would have handled the other fantasy suite dates differently.  From that I took, at the point they were at Peter knew he had feelings but Madi hadn't vocalized them until the FS date.  Somewhere, I heard/read that was when he realized how deep Madi's feelings were for him.  I have no idea why the producers decided to throw Madi under the bus during the season, but they certainly did.  Forcing the conversation (she hasn't been the first virgin and they were allowed to discuss privately during FS date), putting the girls together (I say back fired, they wanted them to brag to cause her more heartache), to allowing her to leave AU all together.  I have watched since the first season, and I can honestly say, after what they did to Colton and Cassie and now Peter and Madi, I am done watching after this season (only finishing because I want to see them together...sucker for a love story).

I think this is very possible. IMO, he only realized at the FS dinner how in love he was with Madi and, more importantly, how deeply she felt for him. Peter's love language is words of affirmation & after the hanger conversation with Madi (after F4RC) he brought up the fact that the other two women had said ILY/falling in love while Madi hadn't (to her credit if she wasn't sure). I think at that point he wasn't sure that Madi would get to that stage & he also was worried about her father not giving his blessing to marry her. I think one of the key differences between Peter & Colton is that Peter felt stronger for his F2/F3 than Colton did for his F2/F3.

Yes @kjcarter91 there have been a couple of interviews where Peter says he says that FS week might've played out differently had he and Madi gone on the first date and had more conversations. That production deliberately put their date last is what's so telling that they weren't interested in an engagement between Peter and Madi. I agree with @Emeralds too. I think Peter viewed Madi and HA as being on a similar level going into FS week. IMO Peter's feelings for Madi were stronger but she also hadn't expressed that she was in love with him yet. With HA, his feelings were a bit less but she had given him that affirmation which made up for it in his mind. I do think those two were likely always going to be F1 and F2. Peter's indecision, combined with production, led to what we've seen unfold.

I'm curious about how the inlaws will gel....what with "so proud of my boy, four times in a windmill," vs. "Our daughter is pure" .....   Should be very interesting.

I still think the parents prefer HS over Madi.  Just a feeling and I don't believe Peter on anything he says. He says the exact thing to each woman. IMO.

Billysmom wrote:I'm curious about how the inlaws will gel....what with "so proud of my boy, four times in a windmill," vs. "Our daughter is pure" .....   Should be very interesting.

While I doubt Peter and Madi are together this would be quite the culture clash. Talk about different parenting styles!