Bachelor 22 - Arie Luyendyk Jr - Episodes - Mar 5th FRC ATFR - #2 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

Mommyof2 wrote:Careful Baby Becs, your age is showing.  Nah, your immaturity is showing.  

She might prove Tia knew what she was talking about.

Aunties_Love wrote:

Stone_Hedge wrote:

ElonM wrote:Becca’s interview with People Mag post break up
The Bachelor's Becca Kufrin Breaks Her Silence After Arie Luyendyk Jr. Ends Their Engagement
https://twitter.com/people/status/970872868954394625?s=21

Arie is a LIAR!
While Kufrin credits Luyendyk Jr. for being “open and honest in the fact that he had told Lauren he loved her too,” she says that “red flags were being raised” when season 22 of the series premiered Jan. 1.

“At that point, I knew that he had liked some of her Instagram photos so we had a conversation about it. And that was the first time that he really threw it out that he should have a conversation with her and just apologize for how things had ended with her, that he had felt guilty,” sh

Here's the whole segment so we have more of a correct section to see.

While Kufrin credits Luyendyk Jr. for being “open and honest in the fact that he had told Lauren he loved her too,” she says that “red flags were being raised” when season 22 of the series premiered Jan. 1.

“At that point, I knew that he had liked some of her Instagram photos so we had a conversation about it. And that was the first time that he really threw it out that he should have a conversation with her and just apologize for how things had ended with her, that he had felt guilty,” she says.

Says Kufrin: “He had told me, ‘I still have feelings for her, I’m trying to work through them.’ He said it was hard for him to always talk about it in interviews with the press, to relive that relationship. He said he couldn’t close that chapter until everything was said and done and the finale aired. That whole time we were just looking at the end goal of this week to finally be done with that and move on and be together and work through it as a team.”

http://people.com/tv/bachelor-becca-kufrin-talks-arie-luyendyk-jr/?utm_campaign=peoplemagazine&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&xid=socialflow_twitter_peoplemag


SO by reading that, IMO Arie didn't lie.  He told her on the couch that he was working things out with her, said that she knew what was going on.  Where's the lie in that?????

, but people don't care right now. So much hate. So sad! My heart goes out to him and Lauren.

It’s kind of sad when everybody (on SM/her girly friends) BUT the broken hearted F1 is trashing Arie and calling him derogatory names. It makes you wonder if she isn’t being nasty towards him because she is just not that kind of girl OR if it’s because she is the next bachelorette. It’s refreshing not to see her bash him like her immature friends who will stop at nothing. JMO Becca is coming out as the best in all of this. IMO

Her possé of friends are seriously scary.

SeekAny wrote:The break up was two things, IMO. Arie trying to save face by saying he was honest to Becca and Arie trying to win Lauren back. And its disgusting to me that he used filming a breakup with Becca to do it. There is no way Arie was completely honest with her, or she wouldn’t have walked into a filming like this. She confronted him about the likes on Instagram and he said oh I better talk to her. Please. She handled herself wonderfully in a degrading situation. She held it together until she thought he left. He couldn’tbe respectful enough to just leave. He had to make it about himself. Can I have 2 minutes? Honestly no because you have nothing worthwhile to say.

She should be thankful he did what he did because she will be better off. And she’s right, she’s has a lot of questions but it’s not even worthwhile because he won’t be honest. It will all be another audition to save face and convince Lauren she’s not an idiot for taking him back.

The cheers of the crowd, overwhelming social media support, and most importantly her close friends and family should be all Becca needs to know she won out of all this.

What else was he supposed to do and how else could he of done it. He was under contract and as the lead, that contract is FAR more binding than say Becca's, so was he supposed to string her along longer till they got to the ATFR then done it while on the couch?? Bottom line, Fleiss owned him and if Fleiss wanted it done one way, that's the way it's gonna be done. Sorry but that's the game and what they signed up for.

I kinda do see it

Is it just me, or does Arie's mom and Krystal kind of look alike?!

Is it just me, or does Arie's mom and Krystal kind of look alike?!

Like arie told Lauren on the FS date it’s going to get worse before it gets better

Arie is getting what he deserves. Becca is too classy to drag him through the mud - so I'm glad her friends are doing it for her.

sanlee088 wrote:It’s kind of sad when everybody BUT the broken hearted F1 is trashing Arie and calling him derogatory names. It makes you wonder if she isn’t being nasty towards him because she is just not that kind of girl OR if it’s because she is the next bachelorette. It’s refreshing not to see her bash him like her immature friends who will stop at nothing. JMO Becca is coming out as the best in all of this. IMO

Which is a perfect setup for her new role.  There is so much I have to question this season.  

Bekah M. needs to tone it down a notch or 30. Her crazy is starting to show.

mslat92 wrote:Even if Becca didn't see all these "red flags" doesn't make Arie any less of a douchebag.

Yeah, lots of victim-blaming going on. This would be like yelling at Jade for marrying an emotionally abusive man. Yeah, Becca was an idiot and should have known that Arie is a cheater and will always be a cheater. But, she was in love and she was engaged and so she chose to believe him that he was working on his issues and trying to be a better partner for her so they could move forward.

It feels like people are so desperate to defend Arie that they can't see that it's possible for Becca to be blinded by love and ignore obvious warning signs AND it's possible for Arie to be the biggest azzhole that's ever been in the franchise. Not mutually exclusive.

If she even tries to speak her mind she’ll be accused of being bitter on social media. That’s the pill to swallow as a woman. It’s quite sad these days.

mslat92 wrote:I think Becca is a smart girl and knows that this experience can mess with a person, so she was listening to what her "fiancé" was saying and believing him because that's what you do in a relationship. YOU TRUST THEM. Yes, she knows now in hindsight that he is a lying liar who lies, but I don't know why people are ragging on her because she chose to trust the man she was engaged to??????

Especially when he says all the right things.

Because some people are just wanting to make it all her fault.

He mentioned having babies first - and sooner than later - in this episode tonight and nothing was said. She said it and was ragged on for contemplating having kids any time soon, etc.

He said - twice - before proposing to Becca that the worst break-ups are the ones you don't see coming.

Becca gets broken up with and she's ragged on for "well I would have seen it..." / "she should have seen it coming" etc.

Nothing she does/says/thinks will be right with a few.

Heck, while some argue she should have known something was up if they wanted to film at a SHV and let her wear the ring, on the other hand, even if she knew enough to know that wasn't the norm, would almost certainly rightly be thinking "they'd never do something not at the ATFR and pull something at a SHV"

And had she not done just what you said - trusted the guy who had proposed to her and thought he was truly putting in the effort in their relationship and meant his words, even if he did things that hinted he was struggling, she'd have been raked over the coals for not believing him enough, so...she's got a losing battle on some fronts.

Aunties_Love wrote:

northernviewer wrote:I was surprised to find out how much becca actually knew and how many times they’d discussed his feelings for Lauren post show. If she was truly shocked by that breakup .... she was delusional IMO

The real cruelty tonight was tptb for showing so much of Beccas embarrassment.... hope she keeps that in mind when she’s the ette ... they’re not your friends Becca !

Yep so according to The People's article, for someone wo admits to all the talks about everything from his feelings, liking posts, etc....she didn't know there were problems or at least weren't willing to admit that things aren't rosey.....YIKES!  I am sorry but if you have that many red flags, how could you NOT know??

ITA!!