Bachelor 22 - Arie Luyendyk Jr - Episodes - Mar 5th FRC ATFR - #2 - *Sleuthing Spoilers*

KB_Mom wrote:Airy kept asking if they could just talk for two minutes.  Talk about WHAT?? He made it clear he was dumping Becca to pursue Lauren. Becca got the message and accepted it, even if it stung like h*ll. What was there left to talk about?

Aunties_Love wrote:

Jolena wrote:

Linds911 wrote:

won't know for sure until tomorrow/today's episode but all signs point to her imo.

Thanks Linds. I'm hoping it's her . Usually a few names are thrown out but I haven't heard of any this time , so I'm thinking it's Becca too.  

@Jolena Some feel that it may be Tia because of how the WTA went and how it was Tia sitting in the next lead chair and how she was asked the right questions as most un-announced leads have been asked.

Sprite wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

Jolena wrote:

Thanks Linds. I'm hoping it's her . Usually a few names are thrown out but I haven't heard of any this time , so I'm thinking it's Becca too.  

@Jolena Some feel that it may be Tia because of how the WTA went and how it was Tia sitting in the next lead chair and how she was asked the right questions as most un-announced leads have been asked.

Tia I believe is still the back up choice, but since neither Becca or Kendall could be at the WTA because they were still technically on the show, it is hard to say definitively. Who knows who would have been sitting where if all the possible parties had been there.

SeekAny wrote:Arie is a liar guys. Plain and simple. Becca asked questions and he didn’t answer honestly. Just gave half truths. A leopard doesn’t lose its spots! He’s done exactly what every ex has said he’s done to them. History repeating itself. And now he’s sliding into Bekah Ks dm’s in February. Is that not now a red flag for Lauren? Come on, this guy is a joke and couldn’t want to settle down any less. All just my opinion.

grace8136 wrote:^^ Jason answered questions about that tonight too.

this thread...

Jason Mesnick
‏@jason_mesnick
If you have a question... Fire away!
8:36 PM - 5 Mar 2018

https://twitter.com/jason_mesnick/status/970880824768741376

Are you glad there’s something worse than “the Mesnick” now... and it’s called “the Lyingdyck”

Aunties_Love wrote:

quietpal wrote:Sometimes relationships don't make sense. It's easy to say from the outside looking in "if Arie did that to me I would've (fill in the blank)." It's different when you're in the middle of it. Even people who have similar relationship experiences may not handle things the same way. There's no one way that's the only way and relationships are not cookie cutter.
My point being that just because Becca knew that there were red flags in her relationship with Arie does not mean that at that point she thought it was over and that she "knew" it and why didn't she break it off. I don't know what she was thinking at the time as I'm not in her head. All I can do is speculate why she stayed and attempted to make it work.
To me it's not as simple as Becca knew how he was feeling before the breakup and therefore he didn't lie. Period. That's it. Case closed. For me it's not case closed as I wasn't there to know exactly what he said to her or what she said to him during their relationship and his "struggles". That's not proof that there wasn't some lying on his part. How do we know he didn't lie about some things? Do we have a transcript of all of their conversations after he proposed? Heck he could have lied to Lauren too to try to get her back. I just don't know.
I do believe Becca attempted to make it work, but it takes two who are willing to make it work and I don't think Arie tried as he was already conflicted so he couldn't give Becca his full attention or devotion anyway. That's on him. Just my

I gave that example in my post because I lived through some dude saying all the right stuff, then found out that he's been talking with someone else and feelings were muddled.  I found the redflags and kicked him to the curb. IMO, if you are watching for those signs especially when you were told about them, and then don't pay attention or just float by....I don't understand that.  Especially when the redflags are in the face.  IMO

tigertiz wrote:

MiaHawk wrote:Hello. I'mmm baaaack.
So...What have I missed?

Not much sweetie. Same old boring season as the last 5.

Linds911 wrote:

Sprite wrote:

Linds911 wrote:@Sprite she was commenting on E News Insta stories.

Would it be possible to bring them over? I tried to find them, but had no luck. TYIA

I only know how to bring over pictures/videos not insta stories. Maybe @GuardianAngel knows how.

Lucas15 wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:Arie could not leave when he wanted to. There was plenty more they wanted, they didn't get it other than dead air time.

My take exactly. He left because Becca told him too. But they sent him back in because they needed more footage. For something billed as "unedited" I saw evidence that this was really not the case - just a different way of going about an edit.

northernviewer wrote:Last nights show left me feeling sickened .... not at Arie .... but at the Bach franchise.  Their seedy underbelly was exposed as to the lengths they will go to humiliate people for the sake of this show and ratings.   Not only did they show it .... they manipulated, orchestrated and totally set that whole thing up ... while pretending to be their friends and convincing them this would be for their benefit.  

They were nothing but pawns in MFs evil game of strategy.  I always knew they were low .... but tonight showed exactly how low and disgusting they were.   And CH ... He enjoyed that so much I’m sure his panties were wet.

Arie changed his mind, even kept Becca informed as it was happening ..... sad situation and embarrassing for sure...but IMO didn’t warrant their lives being trashed like this.  SM has become like a schoolyard bully .... and Arie and Lauren will pay for this.... because MF deemed it useful for his ratings.

Sprite wrote:
This was my favourite from that twitter conversation from Michelle27:

Are you glad there’s something worse than “the Mesnick” now... and it’s called “the Lyingdyck”